RPGs: Useless companions

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TheYellowCellPhone said:
Any companion in Mass Effect that isn't Wrex. The dude's a fucking tank.
Not really. Wrex truly is a great tank, but I found myself mostly using Liara and Tali (when playing a soldier) because then I have everything (tech, biotics and guns) and holy crap, biotics are useful. Makes every fight a lot easier. Tali's tech stuff also isn't half bad.

Edit: Cool, had to agree to the Escapist forum rules again. I was kinda hoping, I don't know why myself, that that meant that they had removed the captchas, but alas, they're still here...
 

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TheYellowCellPhone said:
Any companion in Mass Effect that isn't Wrex. The dude's a fucking tank.
I have to say, yeah, but Garrus was pretty cool too, still not Wrex, but the next best thing
 

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Rex from Fallout New Vegas. He's not Dogmeat...

Also, everyone except Shadowmere in Skyrim. They all die so quickly.
 

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I almost never use Cid in FF7. By the time I get to where he's available, Tifa's a wrecking machine and Cait Sith is a sponge. I'd replace Cloud if I could, and put Vincent, but eh...

Pretty much every Final Fantasy has at least one person I don't use.

FF1: Thief. Doesn't seem a viable choice in a party of Fighter, Fighter, Black Mage, White Mage
FF2: Been a while since I played last, can't recall...
FF3: As above.
FF4: Never bother with Edge, unless I have to.
FF5: Class-wise, the Ninja. Not sure why...
FF6: Strago. The blue magic system isn't great. On a similar note, Gau.
FF7: The aforementioned Cid.
FF8: Rinoa. The whole love story always felt a little shoehorned, and she's the target.
FF9: Quina, because of blue magic, and Eiko because she annoys me.
FF10: Wakka. So you're good against flying types? Big whoop.
FF11: All of them, because it shouldn't be counted in the numbered games.
FF12: Penelo. When everyone can learn everything (eventually) she seems pointless.
FF13: Hope. He annoys me so.
FF Tactics: Any special characters. I trained my units, dammit, and I'm going to use them!

Hmm... in KotOR I don't use Juhani or Jolee. One Force user is enough, thanks!

Basically, I could go on... :p
1: Thief always turns into Ninja which = godly
2: You don't get any expendable party members
3: Same I think
4: You can't change any party members...
5: All down to choice
6: meh, it's all down to choice but I tend to use Locke, Sabin, Edgar, Terra, Celes and Shadow, the rest aren't great.
7: I'll agree with Cid but also add Yuffie, I'd only use people that are relative to the story...that one boss you need two teams for I'd split into a vs Sephiroth team and a for the planet team. 1 would be Cloud, Tifa and Vincent, the other would be Barret, Cait Sith and Red.
8: ...meh, I don't think I didn't use a character here but Selphie/Quistis would be the one I wouldn't use because they're essentially the same character in battle.
9: I'd only use Quina as a back up for when I needed an extra character, my main team at the end was Zidane, Garnet, Vivi and Steiner.
10: Here I disagree, as the only three characters that can fight underwater and with the flexiblity of the sphere system after a certain point in the game I only ever needed to use Tidus, Wakka, Rikku and Yuna.
11: Don't think there is anyone
12: Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses but I would use Balthier, Basch, Ashe and Fran as opposed to Vaan and Penelo.
13: Hope annoying you is fair enough but he's the best mage in the game..not using him and using Vanille or Sazh instead is a bit of a waste.
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In FFX you're missing out the wonderful Rikku. What's that; you're hideously weak and have no offensive skills? Ok, back to the pile you go!
Rikku not only was my favorite FFX character, but one of my favorite characters period. And if you level her up, she's amazing. I took her through EVERYONE's sphere grid. :)
I did that, was HI-larious when she was dealing more damage than Auron but was the fastest character I had AND auto-haste...5 turns to Rikku, 1 turn to Tidus, 5 Turns to Rikku, 1 Turn to Yuna, that's how it went :D.

In Mass Effect 1 and 2 Garrus was my main man and I would switch the other out and about when needed but it'd usually be Wrex or Thane...cause the guys rock.

Don't think I've had many useless companions in other games...
 

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oh and I don't use companions in Bethesda rpgs, they are always more of a pain in the ass than their worth. Well I did take dogmeat in fallout 3 despite all but only because I wanted a dog, no post apocalyptic wonderer is complete without one. He mostly just screwed up my stealth, ran off and engaged random enemies, made animal friend useless (because it doesn?t extend to your companions so they still get attacked) caught grenades, set off traps and got me stuck in places. Even Fawkes was a pain, he keeps moving in front of me and screwing up my line of sight, he is even worse than dogmeat for getting you stuck and...he kept making me go ?oh shit super mutants!!? every time he opened his mouth and I kept shooting him by accident but that?s just me being stupid.
And Ashley in Mass effect, a pure solider just didn?t seem that useful. I used Wrex instead. I like her character tho.
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DementedSheep said:
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Leliana, never found her useful. I only used her to *cough* pickpocket people in towns. But otherwise if I wasn?t playing a rogue myself I would take Zev. I?m probably a bit bias tho because I don?t like her.
Dog take up a slot but doesn?t feel like a full companion so I never used him. It would have been better if there was a pet slot.
Oghren, you get him pretty late so can?t level him up yourself.

Mass effect 2.
Jacob, I barley ever used him.
Mordon, tho I never really tried with him. Maybe I was just using him wrong
Allot of people thing Jack is useless. It true on higher difficulties when all enemies have defences it disarms her somewhat, she certainly isn?t the most powerful and using her effectively requires micro management but she is still very useful against husks IMO. She has the fastest cool down of your biotics, shockwave and pull. Group them up, strip their defences, use CC and watch them all fly. Shockwave can also slow enemies down and knock them out from behind cover so you can take them out even if it won?t send them flying tho flashbang is better for that. I just wish she wasn?t using a shotgun. It?s the worst weapon to go with her skills and means she runs in and gets herself killed if you don't watch her.

BG2.
Been years since I played that game but I don?t think I ever really used Jaheira or Haer'Dalis.
There's a mod you can download that makes Dog (Barkspawn in my game) an summon. So you get to have him as a full fledged party member without losing the character slot. You'll want to crank up the difficulty a notch to compensate.
I already play on max difficulty tho there is probably a mod for that to. Might try that on my next play through. Thanks for reminding me that mod exist.
 

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Lev The Red said:
every companion i've had in Skyrim. i can't count the number of times i've had to Fus one of them out of a doorway so i could get past.
I don't get this. When I play Skyrim, if I'm even just standing on top of a companion, they'll say something in an annoyed tone (Lydia's "Ohh!" or Jenassa's "What the?") and step back. Worst case I move back into the room a bit til they step out of the doorway and presto.

Though I do wish they'd kept the ability to push NPCs around by running into them, because even if they do eventually move on their own it'd be quicker to push them myself.

Speaking of Skyrim companions, I have the same problem with all of them: they're in the way in combat. It's really annoying when I can't use AoE or Chain Lightning because of them. I'm considering adventuring solo...
 

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Anyone who isn't Fawkes in Fallout 3. I set him against a Super Mutant Behemoth and 2 Overlords once and he lost 3 bits of health (Is bits right? Them little lines that show the health bar) and that was after the Deathclaw showed up, there is simply no need to ever have anyone else when he's around.
 

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Jandau said:
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About Jack: They just neglected to give her a damage-focused power. Warp Ammo is very effective, but ammo powers are boring. Shockwave is handy for taking out multiple waves of Husks and Abominations (provided you have taken out their armor, Husks die instantly if their feet leave the ground). But she needed something like Warp or Reave, which are the stars of the biotic talents in ME2.
The problem with Jack is a problem with Biotics in general in ME2 - on any higher difficulty so many enemies have one or more defensive layers (Armor, Barriers, Shields) that by the time you get to their health bar, you may as well just kill them off. As a result, powers like Shockwave are rendered borderline useless. Anything that can be affected by it can just be gunned down. Anything that you'd WANT to affect with it is likely protected in some way. Warp ammo isn't bad, but there are plenty of other ways to get a group ammo power, so it's not really a selling point...
if you dont like jack i must beleave youve never played a vangaurd, for that ***** has saved my ass at least 50 times.
 

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Any of the companions in Skyrim. Why?
A. They disappear for no reason.
B. They disappear for no reason with my loot.
C. They disappear for no reason WITH MY LOOT!
D. They have no personality.
E. They have no side quests to flesh out their personalities.
F. MY LOOT!
 

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Sten form DoA is not only incredibly useless, but possess's absolutely no distinguishing personality, he to me, was a complete waste of a character, which is doubly depressing because Bioware have created some of the most memorable characters ever.

when i think of how another HK-47 could've been there in place of Sten it makes me sick!
 

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Since no-one's managed to mention it yet... (Or if they did I missed it since I flicked through page 1 and skipped the others)

Every single companion or follower I have around in Skyrim is useless to me...

Because those followers don't know how to sneak, so I can never get a backstab....
I mean, sure, Mjoll is an awesome Ancient dragon tank, but, other than that, they're all useless....
 

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not_you said:
Since no-one's managed to mention it yet... (Or if they did I missed it since I flicked through page 1 and skipped the others)

Every single companion or follower I have around in Skyrim is useless to me...

Because those followers don't know how to sneak, so I can never get a backstab....
I mean, sure, Mjoll is an awesome Ancient dragon tank, but, other than that, they're all useless....
After trying out a bunch I'm cautiously optimistic about the Dark Brotherhood Initiate - they seem to be more adapt in sneak than most.
 

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Lev The Red said:
Jandau said:
Fallout 3 - Everyone except Fawkes
Fawkes is the uber companion. it was actually kind of ridiculous and unfair to NPCs just how strong and useful he is.
as awesome as he was, he actually died on me once. somehow, he got stuck on some derbies, wouldn't move or fight back, and got mowed down by a laser turret. it was actually kind of funny: he just stood there for almost 30 seconds while this laser turret chipped away at his health.
I actually dont really like Fawkes. Not right away, anyway. He's a notorious kill-stealer, so I dont use him until Ive hit the level cap.
 

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I am surprised and Appalled by the lack of Porky(Pokey) Minch in this thread. Earthbound was largely text based and it capitalized on this with Porky in your party. "Porky cowered behind Ness in fear." It really made me hate him. That was the point though so... I guess it counts because he doesn't contribute to the battle even the most inconsequential part of the game. Barring that any escort mission companion in anything ever.
 

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I am working on a hardcore play through of Fallout New Vegas, so all of the side kicks are avoided because I don't want them to die.
 

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him over there said:
I am surprised and Appalled by the lack of Porky(Pokey) Minch in this thread. Earthbound was largely text based and it capitalized on this with Porky in your party. "Porky cowered behind Ness in fear." It really made me hate him. That was the point though so... I guess it counts because he doesn't contribute to the battle even the most inconsequential part of the game. Barring that any escort mission companion in anything ever.
I dunno if temporary companions are really fair choices though. This is more for proper characters that you never use, not characters you never use because they're only in the party for 5 minutes.

Also, let me add:

Fallout 3: Everyone but Fawkes and Charon.
Fallout New Vegas: Everyone but ED-E.
Knights of the Old Republic: Everyone but Juhani, HK-47, and Jolee. I barely used the others, but the only people I really disliked were Carth and Bastila (our delightful main love interests).
Shadow Hearts Covenant: For a while I kept most people around roughly the same level, but I eventually let Lucia and Gepetto drop out of the main rotation. Kurando also didn't get as much use as some thanks to only joining you about halfway through the game and being kinda boring, but he made up for it with his awesome ultimate fusion.
 

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Thats's very true I suppose. I was thinking too much about useless as a companion, not enough about the companion part. In that case bow from Paper Mario. Worst character save for the chapter 3 boss.
 

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Henpecked Hou from Jade Empire. His only ability was to lie a bunch of bottles around so I can play a mini-game while fighting to use a fighting style that's in no way better then my current one. Screw that.

There's also Gau from FF6, who I suspect would be very useful if I had any idea what half of his acquired skills even did.

Kahunaburger said:
Leliana. Annoying voice, useless abilities, massive waste of space.
I never used her because she kept using her arrows to steal my freaking kills(and the annoying voice).
 

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My new favorite is Mako from SW:ToR. She constantly saves my ass.

Skyrim companions are purely a distraction so i can sneak attack easier :)

HK is my fave kotor companion and to this day one of the chars i would love to see in ToR.

DA:O companions again were purely there as meat shields :)