RTS v. TBS
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I think both are Great.
I've always loved RTS games, since this one game i downloaded off of Kazaa in 3rd grade that everyone had been playing. I just kept fortifying and amassing an army. I didn't even mind the fighting, but the sheer growth of my empire was always my focus. I had put Strategy games away for a while and recently wanted to buy a new one, so i could get back into multi-genre gaming [i rpg]. I looked a long time and eventually narrowed it down to three games. Command and Conquer, Starcraft, and Sins of a Solar Empire. From what i had seen, Sins had sweapt the admiration of many a reviewer, so i purchased a copy.
I loved it. I made fleets of over 100 disciples and such and let them loose upon my foes, constantly backing them up and fortifying my defences, it was a great game, and is a great game.
Recently i jailbroke my ipod, so i downloaded a GBA emulator. I asked on another forum what the best games for it were and got mostly the same answers: Advance Wars [1 and 2], Fire Emblem [1 and 2], and Golden Sun [1 and 2]. As well as some talk of FFTA, but debate about the legitimacy of the "Law" system put in place. From some of what ive played of Fire Emblem, it feels alot like Heroes of might and magic, moving my troops to the enemy troops, and attacking and such. And it was really fun too. I dont know if HoMM is the Pinacle of TBS, but i like the system used and such, so i hope i dont get flamed for using it as my referance =P
[whew, nice first post!]
I've always loved RTS games, since this one game i downloaded off of Kazaa in 3rd grade that everyone had been playing. I just kept fortifying and amassing an army. I didn't even mind the fighting, but the sheer growth of my empire was always my focus. I had put Strategy games away for a while and recently wanted to buy a new one, so i could get back into multi-genre gaming [i rpg]. I looked a long time and eventually narrowed it down to three games. Command and Conquer, Starcraft, and Sins of a Solar Empire. From what i had seen, Sins had sweapt the admiration of many a reviewer, so i purchased a copy.
I loved it. I made fleets of over 100 disciples and such and let them loose upon my foes, constantly backing them up and fortifying my defences, it was a great game, and is a great game.
Recently i jailbroke my ipod, so i downloaded a GBA emulator. I asked on another forum what the best games for it were and got mostly the same answers: Advance Wars [1 and 2], Fire Emblem [1 and 2], and Golden Sun [1 and 2]. As well as some talk of FFTA, but debate about the legitimacy of the "Law" system put in place. From some of what ive played of Fire Emblem, it feels alot like Heroes of might and magic, moving my troops to the enemy troops, and attacking and such. And it was really fun too. I dont know if HoMM is the Pinacle of TBS, but i like the system used and such, so i hope i dont get flamed for using it as my referance =P
[whew, nice first post!]
I generally find RTS games too overwhelming. Strategy takes time to develop, and though I'm never a fan of extreme micromanaging, it's much less painful if I have time to do it. Though I liked Starcraft, I was never good at it, because there just wasn't enough time to be watching your base, building more units, expanding, defending, and attacking all at the same time. At least a game like Civilization (which I love), which still requires all the same attention to detail, gives you the time to do it.
If RTSes required less micromanagement, I think I'd enjoy them a lot more. Until then, I'll take a TBS.
Unless I'm playing against real people, in which case a TBS becomes tiring very quickly. I don't mind taking my time to make my own moves, but when you have to wait for 3 other people to do the same thing, you spend a lot of time not playing the game.
If RTSes required less micromanagement, I think I'd enjoy them a lot more. Until then, I'll take a TBS.
Unless I'm playing against real people, in which case a TBS becomes tiring very quickly. I don't mind taking my time to make my own moves, but when you have to wait for 3 other people to do the same thing, you spend a lot of time not playing the game.
My favorite strategy game is Supreme Commander which is an RTS. I think it depends more on the game than the style of play. Some RTS's are crap and some TBS's are crap. Every once in a while a great game comes by that gives you that satisfying hard won victory feeling and you can not help but bask in its glow.
That being said I think RTS developers put more effort into production values. TBS's look more dated with everything on a grid and stuff moving only at certain times. The exception is Worms, but then it could be argued that Worms isn't a strategy game.
That being said I think RTS developers put more effort into production values. TBS's look more dated with everything on a grid and stuff moving only at certain times. The exception is Worms, but then it could be argued that Worms isn't a strategy game.
There are very few TBS's that I enjoy, but the ones I do enjoy are supplies of hours of fun. The problem with RTS's is that they focus on building and managing a base constantly, which is not fun or strategic. An RTS that focuses on strategic combat would be my dream game, and I mean combat where you have to think alot more than in most RTS games, where strategy is mainly figuring out how many soldiers to include in your head-on attacks.
The problem with RTS multiplayer is that many people move freakishly fast, and have a full-on army by the time you barely have built up a village. It's like in MMORPGs, some people rush through the game to get to the highest level as fast as humanly possible, but others take it slower to get the full experience of the game.
The problem with RTS multiplayer is that many people move freakishly fast, and have a full-on army by the time you barely have built up a village. It's like in MMORPGs, some people rush through the game to get to the highest level as fast as humanly possible, but others take it slower to get the full experience of the game.
I have no preference when it comes to single player. I can enjoy a good TBS as much as a good RTS.
Multiplayer however, i can't be arsed to play most TBS's online even if they do implement some kind of same-turn gameplay. There's always one git that can't decide how many troops he wants in Cambodia in less than 5 minutes per turn. That's the reason why i quit playing Risk II online really.
Multiplayer however, i can't be arsed to play most TBS's online even if they do implement some kind of same-turn gameplay. There's always one git that can't decide how many troops he wants in Cambodia in less than 5 minutes per turn. That's the reason why i quit playing Risk II online really.