*RUMOR* Possible More Powerful Nintendo Switch to come out 2019

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The switch has just been out for eleven seconds and there has to be a new version already. Why? This kind of stuff makes me wary of buying consoles.
 

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Specter Von Baren said:
Phoenixmgs said:
You can say literally the same thing but in reverse as well. What's the point of having a gaming PC that's just a less convenient console that plays all the same games but slightly better?
The game libraries are basically the same now with Kickstarted PC games finding their way onto consoles to where there's probably more interesting console exclusives than PC exclusives at this point. Hell, the most interesting games nowadays don't even need either because board games are in a golden age right now with far more interesting gameplay than the standard killing shit that video games keep peddling.
...... This is a terrible argument. A PC does more than a gaming console and upgrading it doesn't require the purchase of an entirely new console. -_- You don't use Photoshop on your X-box nor do you use 3DS Max on your Playstation.
Ironically, I don't play games on my PC because I need to not murder the hardware because I do use graphic/video editors on it for work. And adding a second PC specifically to play games would less cost-effective then a console (obviously that slides somewhat at the tail end of a console gen, sometimes).

Kind of like how it'd be nice if a decent mp3 player still existed outside of a *&%$ing smart phone. Because I want my phone to be a functional phone with a decent battery life, and audio (nevermind video or internet) just eats that crap up.
 

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Specter Von Baren said:
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With each new Nintendo console there seems less and less reason to buy it if they're just gonna render it obsolete by the next incremental version releasing in the next 2 years or so. It's getting a bit too close to the whole mobile phone arms race.
Like how X-box and Playstation did just last year?
If they're doing that too, then yeah, pretty much. I'll be honest I don't follow any console news anymore. Think I'm at the stage where I doubt I'll ever like one enough again to get it.
 
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2019 is way too soon for an upgraded switch. It's just now in its second year. Nintendo would be crazy to split the install base like that this early.

2021 is believable for an upgrade, but not really any sooner than that, IMO.

Also, considering I get most of my big games on PC, I don't much care for power on the switch. Why would I play Doom on Switch when the PC has far superior Mouse and Keyboard controls for shooters?
 

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Yoshi178 said:
Phoenixmgs said:
2) I can play ALL PS4 games on ANY PS4. Get back to me when the PS4 Pro or OneX has exclusive games.
maybe on PS4 pro you can play all ps4 games on it. last time i checked though not all Xbox One games can play on the Xbox One S and X. they removed Kinect functionality.

Phoenixmgs said:
1) Uhh... The Switch isn't even 2 years old yet. Normal generations of hardware are lasting close to 10 years now.
So?

Pretty sure you were one of the people complaining about how the Switch isn't powerful enough and how it won't get 3rd Party support being as "weak" as it is.

So when Nintendo finally does exactly what you wanted and makes a more powerful Switch to handle these "graphically intense" 3rd Party games suddenly that's a problem for you now is it?
Oh noes, you can't play like 5 games on Xbone without a kinect. Nobody wanted the stupid kinect in the 1st place.

An upgraded Switch isn't going to be on par with current consoles as long as it's still a mobile device. Then, of course, you have next-gen a couple years away making the Switch (upgraded or not) even more behind every other platform in power. If the rumor is indeed true and new Switch games won't play on the current Switch hardware, that is some massive bullshit, there's no defending that.

Specter Von Baren said:
Phoenixmgs said:
You can say literally the same thing but in reverse as well. What's the point of having a gaming PC that's just a less convenient console that plays all the same games but slightly better?
...... This is a terrible argument. A PC does more than a gaming console and upgrading it doesn't require the purchase of an entirely new console. -_- You don't use Photoshop on your X-box nor do you use 3DS Max on your Playstation.
If someone still needs/wants a desktop PC for PC stuff vs a mobile device or laptop, you can get a refurbished one for easily below $100 that will do everything 99.9% of people use PCs for. With console gaming, you actually still own your games and can sell them after your done, something PC gamers gave up. Console gaming can effectively be quite a bit cheaper and more convenient all at the same time.

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Kind of like how it'd be nice if a decent mp3 player still existed outside of a *&%$ing smart phone. Because I want my phone to be a functional phone with a decent battery life, and audio (nevermind video or internet) just eats that crap up.
Cowon [http://www.cowonglobal.com/product_wide/iAUDIO9plus/product_page_1.php] still makes MP3 players and their sound is amazing. I had a Cowon portable media player about 10 years back for daily train rides and the JetAudio BBE effects are amazing on MP3s. Now, I'm really happy with the Android JetAudio player that is nearly as good as a standalone Cowon player.
 
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It?s a bit of a wonder they didn?t just do this from the beginning. Lord knows they?re swimmming in Scrooge McDuck size vaults of money, and their hardware costs shouldn?t have changed that much in a couple years. It might not be that big of a deal if everyone who already bought one wouldn?t have to buy another to be able to play everything.

It?s a good example of the ?it pays to wait? philosophy of consumerism.
 

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hanselthecaretaker said:
It?s a bit of a wonder they didn?t just do this from the beginning. Lord knows they?re swimmming in Scrooge McDuck size vaults of money,
I'm curious where this idea that Nintendo is inundated with cash comes from.
 

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I'm curious where this idea that Nintendo is inundated with cash comes from.
Because they are. A few years ago someone calculated Nintendo could run a deficit for nearly 40 years because their larders were so stuffed:

https://nintendotoday.com/nintendo-not-doomed/
 

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I'd predict an upgraded Switch dock that has onboard RAM, storage, coprocessing, integrated cooling, smartcasting capability, and built-in Qi charging for forwards compatibility first. After that, an upgraded Joy-Con charging grip that has an onboard touchscreen for dual screen play -- the potential for putting the DS+ libraries on eShop I think would be too tempting a revenue source for Nintendo to ignore.
 

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Phoenixmgs said:
Seth Carter said:
Kind of like how it'd be nice if a decent mp3 player still existed outside of a *&%$ing smart phone. Because I want my phone to be a functional phone with a decent battery life, and audio (nevermind video or internet) just eats that crap up.
Cowon [http://www.cowonglobal.com/product_wide/iAUDIO9plus/product_page_1.php] still makes MP3 players and their sound is amazing. I had a Cowon portable media player about 10 years back for daily train rides and the JetAudio BBE effects are amazing on MP3s. Now, I'm really happy with the Android JetAudio player that is nearly as good as a standalone Cowon player.
They seem a bit over-pricey. I'm all for putting decent money on the table, but 250+ for my portable music is a bit overkill (particularly when it seems overburdened with stuff like video and TV out that I'd never use it for).

For comparison, my prior mp3 player was the 160gb (this is another thing, anything over 16gb is priced insanely nowadays, and usually bolted to video as well, and over 32 is unheard of.) good old brick iPod was only 180. Until they discontinued the things (now people are selling any remaining ones for 3-800).
 
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Now, the Wall Street Journal is Reporting on it [https://www.polygon.com/2018/10/4/17935982/new-nintendo-switch-hardware-2019]

All you hating on your boy...
 

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I have been wanting a Switch real bad, but I have been waiting for literally something like this. I hope its true, and hope it is sooner than later. I really want Smash and Animal Crossing, and Fire Emblem Warriors, and Breath of the Wild! I seriously am tired of trying to avoid spoilers for that game!
 

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Specter Von Baren said:
hanselthecaretaker said:
It?s a bit of a wonder they didn?t just do this from the beginning. Lord knows they?re swimmming in Scrooge McDuck size vaults of money,
I'm curious where this idea that Nintendo is inundated with cash comes from.
I am curious where this idea that Nintendo is in desperate need comes from.
 

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aegix drakan said:
2019 is way too soon for an upgraded switch. It's just now in its second year. Nintendo would be crazy to split the install base like that this early.

2021 is believable for an upgrade, but not really any sooner than that, IMO.

Also, considering I get most of my big games on PC, I don't much care for power on the switch. Why would I play Doom on Switch when the PC has far superior Mouse and Keyboard controls for shooters?
No one is nor should be getting a Switch for DOOM. Im not. I want it for the same reason I want ANY Nintendo console...Nintendo games.
 
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They say this guy is known for starting rumours but don't tell us whether he is known for any of those rumours turning out to be true? That's the exact kind of information you would think necessary to include here. The way they word it implies they about as much faith in this guy as a flat-earther with a little too much exposure.

Oh, forget that. I missed a sentence in the OP, but to be fair there was shampoo in my eye and it was causing intense discomfort and difficulty. I wish I was making this up.
 
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Majestic Manatee said:
They say this guy is known for starting rumours but don't tell us whether he is known for any of those rumours turning out to be true? That's the exact kind of information you would think necessary to include here. The way they word it implies they about as much faith in this guy as a flat-earther with a little too much exposure.

Oh, forget that. I missed a sentence in the OP, but to be fair there was shampoo in my eye and it was causing intense discomfort and difficulty. I wish I was making this up.
ObsidianJones said:
Now, the Wall Street Journal is Reporting on it [https://www.polygon.com/2018/10/4/17935982/new-nintendo-switch-hardware-2019]

All you hating on your boy...
New Info. This time, this info was received by the Japanese Wall Street Journal.
 
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ObsidianJones said:
ObsidianJones said:
Now, the Wall Street Journal is Reporting on it [https://www.polygon.com/2018/10/4/17935982/new-nintendo-switch-hardware-2019]

All you hating on your boy...
New Info. This time, this info was received by the Japanese Wall Street Journal.
I did completely miss that post, thankyou. The shampoo has eventually left the eye finally. Or it's gone so far in that I can no longer feel the burning pain. The news may be something after all. WSJ doesn't want my reading it, sadly, not for lack of me trying. I was trying to identify their sources.
 
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It's a bad precedent and a real negative against consoles. The advantage they had over PCs was a static design that remained unchanged over its life. It meant developers could make a game that they knew would perform identically on the same hardware. Now both M$ and $ony have released Pro upgrades, force games to be installed on the hard drive, require large patches to play and cost many hundreds of dollars, what is the point of them vs a gaming PC anymore?

If Nintendo plan to follow the same route, it's a real negative. Fragmenting the playerbase along hardware lines so soon into their console's lifecycle is terrible. Releasing *exclusive* games ONLY for the Pro upgraded version is horrible and to be condemned. It's marketing to push units...and the fact that it's a remake of a 15+ year old game is just salt on the wound. It's bad for third part development, the customerbase who own the original hardware and a bad way of doing things.

I suspect if this turns out to be true, it's nothing to do with "upgrading" anything, but an excuse to change the Tegra chip that opened it up for CustomOSs and homebrew. There's a hardware design issue that means it cannot be patched in software and every Switch has it.
 
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KingsGambit said:
It's a bad precedent and a real negative against consoles. The advantage they had over PCs was a static design that remained unchanged over its life. It meant developers could make a game that they knew would perform identically on the same hardware. Now both M$ and $ony have released Pro upgrades, force games to be installed on the hard drive, require large patches to play and cost many hundreds of dollars, what is the point of them vs a gaming PC anymore?

If Nintendo plan to follow the same route, it's a real negative. Fragmenting the playerbase along hardware lines so soon into their console's lifecycle is terrible. Releasing *exclusive* games ONLY for the Pro upgraded version is horrible and to be condemned. It's marketing to push units...and the fact that it's a remake of a 15+ year old game is just salt on the wound. It's bad for third part development, the customerbase who own the original hardware and a bad way of doing things.

I suspect if this turns out to be true, it's nothing to do with "upgrading" anything, but an excuse to change the Tegra chip that opened it up for CustomOSs and homebrew. There's a hardware design issue that means it cannot be patched in software and every Switch has it.
I only have a PS4 but it was still pretty user-friendly and out-of-the-box easy to get started. Just an initial user setup, and games can be updated in the background while playing. I?ve also grown to like games being installed because like PC, it?s so convenient to just navigate to it and hit a button vs swapping discs for every game, bloated loading times, etc. The downside is loss of resale value, but discs have lost significant value. Only the classics like a sealed copy of Shadowrun on SNES or Castlevania: SotN really go for decent money now.

A current PS4 bundle is also a fraction of a decent gaming rig. Imo when building a gaming PC, aiming for console specs to save $ is defeating a huge chunk of the purpose.