RWBY review: No Brakes (spoilers)

[Izanagi009_v1legacy]

Hello and welcome to another RWBY review where we finally get some insane action in No Brakes [http://roosterteeth.com/archive/?id=9863]

Okay, since this is a combat episode, there's not much story so I can sum it up and then talk about the animation and fight sequences

Well, Ruby is saved by the gang. the bombs are to detonate on the track creating openings to let Grimm into the city. Oobleck's weapon turns out to be a giant flaming staff able to either fire Zwei like a baseball (my reaction [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTNP792ykYM]), create multiple flame missiles (why did you need Zwei then) or create a large fire at the point of contact. Blake whoops Torchwick completely. Weiss overwhelms and then gets grabbed and thrown by a big dude with a chainsaw sword. Yang completely gets her ass kicked by Neo before some odd grimm masked woman with a revolving sheath full of interchangeable blades comes in and saves her (10 bunks on Yang's mom). The train crashes into the city and the Grimm start to attack (10 bucks on the academies coming together to fight them).

The plot is overly simple but at this point, it's serviceable for the big set piece this season: a giant human vs grimm fight.

Now let's get to the main attraction, the fights. The first two small fights we have, the team against groups of henchmen, are kind of bad. The angle really does not make it look like they actually are hitting anyone and the body contortions, especially on poor Ruby at one point, are kind of off at points. The 1v1 fights however are much better with them each having different powers. Neo v. Yang has Neo using some odd combination of basic longsword combat and monkey style martial arts to basicly make Yang look like she can't hit anything. Blake fights Torchwick using different elemental shadows (thanks to some dust ammo from Weiss) as well as a shockwave to knock him down. Weiss used parries, acrobatics and even a sort of omnislash before being grabbed and slammed. They are all kinetic and visually competent with decent background music playing during them. Despite the positives, however, I feel something is off. After watching the fight below, I figured out what it was.


The fights still don't have a lot of effects for their attacks. Despite the clashing blades and shots flying, there are not a lot of shockwaves or dramatic effects and the camera seems too static.

All and all I say watch it if you are not an anime fan but if you are, you will probably be disappointed.

RWBY went 2 days before giving me some doubts and the episode was still serviceable. Things may look up

 

[LawAndChaos]

Serviceable episode.

However I do have a complaint.

Monty...Monty, hello?

STOP MAKING BLAZBLUE EXPIES.

You HAD to make her slash a portal open like Hakumen, didn't you, JUST TO DRIVE IT HOME? You just HAD to goddamn do it!

I enjoy the fact that they're improving. But please, PLEASE stop with the expies! I have no problem with the design itself, but it was just that little moment, THAT little bit that made it blatant that she's a Hakumen expy.

If she has some ripoff of Hakumen's badass creed I swear to god.

 

[DirectorK]

The whole Zwei becoming a fireball with the help of Oobleck was just M&K going "Oh, we need Zwei to do something useful since we didn't get around to it last episode. I know! Let's have Oobleck turn him into a flaming cannon ball and have him destroy a mech!" and yet for some reason Zwei's fur doesn't catch fire and the impact doesn't kill him.


Honestly, how can ANYONE find that moment entertaining? For God's sake! There's nothing wrong with having a little humor in a action scene but do it in a serious way! This was nothing more than stupid comedy forced in. Again.

Anyway, the fight scenes were cool but I wish they were more realistic. We're still at the stage where "No one actually gets hurt! It's all cool!" Are they seriously trying to make this a kid's show? I don't understand why Monty's so reluctant to show blood, not necessarily guts but at least some blood. He did it with Dead Fantasy. Hell! He did it with Red Trailer for this show! So what the hell is he holding back for? Most action animes are pretty graphic in their own ways so what's preventing him from doing the same with a show he keeps insisting is an anime? All we've gotten so far is decapitations of Grimm creatures and just a red spot of where their body part once was. Everyone else is just a child's toy being thrown around.

I'm pretty sure when the woman with the interchangeable sword showed up a lot of people screamed, "It's Adam from Blake's trailer!". That can't be Adam. Despite them having similar outfits(especially the mask) that character is definitely a woman. Judging by the way she looked at Yang before disappearing, I'm willing to bet as well that she could be Yang's biological mother. Unless it is Adam and for some reason he decided to go through a transgender stage...


Yeah... let's not go there. I seriously doubt that's the case but seeing how Monty got away with portraying Master Chief as a woman and having her and Samus Aran look romantically at each other at the end of Haloid you never know when it comes to his devious mind.

But back to the point. Whoever that woman was she certainly scared the shit out of Neo, enough to force her into a hasty retreat. And now that we're coming to the finale, I wonder if it will anything like the last episode of Blood-C.


I know and I agree, it's VERY wishful thinking. But if RWBY suddenly took a turn to the dark side like that with team RWBY(and maybe team JNPR and a few others like Velvet and Cardin) being the soul survivors after the massacre of Vale, it would definitely make up for all the frustration we had to through these first two seasons and it would gives us something to look forward to unlike last time. Here's hoping for a satisfying ending.

 

[LawAndChaos]

The whole Zwei becoming a fireball with the help of Oobleck was just M&K going "Oh, we need Zwei to do something useful since we didn't get around to it last episode. I know! Let's have Oobleck turn him into a flaming cannon ball and have him destroy a mech!" and yet for some reason Zwei's fur doesn't catch fire and the impact doesn't kill him.

Honestly, how can ANYONE find that moment entertaining? For God's sake! There's nothing wrong with having a little humor in a action scene but do it in a serious way! This was nothing more than stupid comedy forced in. Again.

1st. I totally called the scalding hot coffee weapon. It wasn't coffee but it WAS scalding hot! Hohohoho! 2nd it's because they knew it was a stupid idea and decided to do a fastball special with him to make up for it. But that's all he's done. And it was done with no prior knowledge that he COULD.

Anyway, the fight scenes were cool but I wish they were more realistic. We're still at the stage where "No one actually gets hurt! It's all cool!" Are they seriously trying to make this a kid's show? I don't understand why Monty's so reluctant to show blood, not necessarily guts but at least some blood. He did it with Dead Fantasy. Hell! He did it with Red Trailer for this show! So what the hell is he holding back for? Most action animes are pretty graphic in their own ways so what's preventing him from doing the same with a show he keeps insisting is an anime? All we've gotten so far is decapitations of Grimm creatures and just a red spot of where their body part once was. Everyone else is just a child's toy being thrown around.

Now to be fair what you're hoping for is something a bit grittier. I have no problem with a lack of blood and whatnot so long as there's a sense of impact. People don't have to get cut up or die, but there at least has to be a sense that when someone gets hit its not going to be shrugged off as nothing. It has to hurt. And to be fair they're slowly stepping this up.

Shame that the inevitable chainsaw weapon was used on a generic White Fang mook. Ah well.

I'm pretty sure when the woman with the interchangeable sword showed up a lot of people screamed, "It's Adam from Blake's trailer!".

Actually I screamed "oh hey cool, it's totally Ruby's mom, and--MONTY YOU FUCKER YOU MADE HER HAKUMEN YOU LAZY SHIT."

That can't be Adam. Despite them having similar outfits(especially the mask) that character is definitely a woman. Judging by the way she looked at Yang before disappearing, I'm willing to bet as well that she could be Yang's biological mother. Unless it is Adam and for some reason he decided to go through a transgender stage...

I'm curious as to what the difference between the masks are. It seems that Adam and this woman wear similar masks, so I can only assume that they're indicative of rank in the White Fang. However considering this woman's actions, it seems unlikely she's White Fang. So then, why the mask?

But back to the point. Whoever that woman was she certainly scared the shit out of Neo, enough to force her into a hasty retreat. And now that we're coming to the finale, I wonder if it will anything like the last episode of Blood-C.

I know and I agree, it's VERY wishful thinking. But if RWBY suddenly took a turn to the dark side like that with team RWBY(and maybe team JNPR and a few others like Velvet and Cardin) being the soul survivors after the massacre of Vale, it would definitely make up for all the frustration we had to through these first two seasons and it would gives us something to look forward to unlike last time. Here's hoping for a satisfying ending.

1, Hakumen Aura = scares the fuck out of evildoers.
2, only if they watched Blood-C.
3, It's wishful thinking to the point of being almost impossible. Kudos for optimism though. And honestly it would make a very jarring change of tone from the entire season 1 and 2 before it, so I doubt they would go that route. It'd be interesting if done well, but done poorly it'd just be cheap shock value and a jarring tonal shift.

 

[Scarim Coral]

I knew there was more to that dog than meet the eye (granted I don't know how he know that dog can become a fireball) and it was a flask that the doctor/ professor was using!

Of out of the 1 vs 1 fight is Yang vs Neo (also yes she is suppose that small since Mounty put up a character height sheet and she is the shortest one of them all!). For once Yang isn't over powered and her ass handed to her. that grim masked shinoi character that show up out of nowhere in the nick of time was just too random. I guessing at the moment that could be Yang or Ruby mother but I don't think so (Yang didn't react to her that much or was it still blurry for her).

Lastly I find it strange that while Weiss did protect them from the crash but how did they end up in front of the train in the city?

 

[Izanagi009_v1legacy]

Serviceable episode.

However I do have a complaint.

Monty...Monty, hello?

STOP MAKING BLAZBLUE EXPIES.

You HAD to make her slash a portal open like Hakumen, didn't you, JUST TO DRIVE IT HOME? You just HAD to goddamn do it!

I enjoy the fact that they're improving. But please, PLEASE stop with the expies! I have no problem with the design itself, but it was just that little moment, THAT little bit that made it blatant that she's a Hakumen expy.

If she has some ripoff of Hakumen's badass creed I swear to god.

To be fair, the Hakumen reference is only for continuity and story fans since Hakumen doesn't actually exhibit the ability to sever the timeline to observe alternative possibilities (see Continuum Shift Hakumen story mode) during fights except perhaps the marks he makes when he intercepts projectiles.

Also, aren't portals usually Rachel's thing since she can literally appear out of nowhere from a generated doorway.

I do agree thought that if I see a Ragna expy, I will probably flip.

 

[laggyteabag]

Gotta say, that Neo vs Yang fight was probably the best one in the entirety of RWBY, and definitely the best animated (at least on Neo's part). Hell, I want to see more of Neo, because she is awesome. Probably one of the better RWBY episodes overall, but that isn't really saying much. Anyway, at least it is just nice to see some action.

 

[Marik2]

I pretty much watch this series to make fun of it and point out all the anime cliches

Next episode will have all the other teams join together to stop the grimm and save the day

 

[LawAndChaos]

To be fair, the Hakumen reference is only for continuity and story fans since Hakumen doesn't actually exhibit the ability to sever the timeline to observe alternative possibilities (see Continuum Shift Hakumen story mode) during fights except perhaps the marks he makes when he intercepts projectiles.

Also, aren't portals usually Rachel's thing since she can literally appear out of nowhere from a generated doorway.

I do agree thought that if I see a Ragna expy, I will probably flip.

Actually if I remember correctly he does outside of the fight with Arakune to observe the alternate timeline I believe. He doesn't do it during fights, but he has done it. I dunno, I played Continuum Shift but I wasn't sure if that stayed a canon thing or not.

I mostly raged because we've seen this crap before in Penny. This new woman's design alone set off a few warning bells, but it was only when she did the portal slashing that I cried Hakumen. While portal making wasn't quite Hakumen's thing, he still fought in a manner that appeared like he was making portals to absorb projectiles.

It means Monty's still digging into Blazblue for stuff, and I feel that doesn't bode well.

 

[Halon Chocolate]

Man, chainsaws as weapons sure are entertaining to watch, but I've only ever seen Space Marines use them to some success.

Highlight of this episode was Yang vs. Neo for me; the fight was smooth to follow, and it cemented Neo as a serious threat to come across the next time she comes around. My only gripe was how it concluded; mysterious new deus-ex-machina joins the fray. I don't even know what to expect from Zwei anymore, his role seems to fluctuate as well.

Still, it was a fun episode to watch, and it did a solid job setting up for a memorable finale.

One final note: I feel real bad for Torchwick at this point, its clear his mouth is his best weapon.

Grim vs Beacon next, it feels like we're gonna get a ton of Attack on Titan references shoved into our faces. Should be fun.

 

[DirectorK]

I guess I should have been more clearer on the action since I spoke out of heat. I'm okay with RWBY having no blood and guts flying around, but it makes me smack my head against the table when we see our heroes tossing the White Fang cultists into the air like a salad bowl and not actually hurting/killing them.

It's obvious that the White Fang is trying to kill them yet they're acting like superheroes(somewhat) when it comes to dealing with cultists. Last I looked hunters and huntresses from any academy on Remnant are not suppose to be superheroes. And if they make up the excuse that they're suppose to be peacemakers through negotiation I will seriously flip out.

 

[Mikeyfell]

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I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks the grimm masked lady is Yang's mom.
Do you think they're trying to imply that Yang is half faunus?
It could be interesting, but knowing Miles' and Kerry's relationship with things that could have been interesting I wouldn't get my hopes up for it.

Grim vs Beacon next, it feels like we're gonna get a ton of Attack on Titan references shoved into our faces. Should be fun.

I doubt the academy is coming because they're all on missions and scattered all over Vale, which is one of the reasons why calling Jaune for backup was a dumb idea.
That means we might actually see the real huntsmen and huntresses, you know, the ones that already graduated from Beacon.
The same ones who failed to stop Torchwick from stealing "every speck of dust in the kingdom"

I really liked the 3 1 on 1 fight scenes especially the way Blake used dust to modify her powers.
That is easily one of the highlights of the series.
It may be proof that Monty doesn't know a damn thing about writing, but he can choreograph one hell of a fight scene.
Personally I don't mind the lack of flash in the fight scenes.

But did you notice that those fight scenes shouldn't have happened at all. (I mean I'm glad they did, but) right before the fight scenes Oobleck tells Yang Blake and Weiss to "find a way to stop those hoards" but instead of doing that they trek deeper into the train for no reason.

The writing in this episode was a lot like Episode 8 of volume 1, really bad but nobody noticed because there was a lot of action.

If you want to read a more word-y verson of what I'm about to say you can look here and here

But here are some of the major problems with this episode.
Torchwick's train is full of bombs. The train cars are going to detach and explode to blow holes in the track to make grim fall into the tunnels. Then the train is going to crash through the barriar luring all the grim to the city. That's his plan. And I'm okay with that.
But why are there guns and mechs and soldiers on the train too? all the cargo cars are going to explode, and the engine will crash into the sealed entrance to the tunnel. So all of those supplies (and soldiers...) would be wasted UNLESS! unless Torchwick was expecting resistance.
So the only reason they could have possibly loaded the bomb train with supplies is if they suspected they would have to defend it from the Huntsmen.

But when Torchwick finds Ruby in his hideout, he asks how she found the place instead of immediately killing her (Or attempting to kill her) and putting all the guards oh high alert.
He was willing to sacrifice a literal train load of supplies and weapons and soldiers on the off chance that someone would find his hideout and try to stop him. and yet finding someone who he knows has already foiled his plans twice doesn't make him react, he hardly even registers explosions in his hideout as a threat even though he has to know that Ruby wouldn't just be alone looking for him. He even yells "What is going on here!" even though he obviously expected this eventuality enough to prepare for it, and had the warning sign of finding Ruby in his hideout.

Then there 4 lines in a row which are so bad they're funny.
"You 3 go below and find a way to stop those hoards" They do not do that, they don't even try. It's just sort of funny how they disobey the only order they get from the huntsman they're fighting alongside.
Then Ruby asks "What about us?"
"We're going to stop this train"
"Yeah I know I said that earlier."
Then why did you ask...? Fuckin' A. How much wronger could 10 seconds of footage be?


There are 3 ways I can think of to stop the train.
1 Ruby can use her speed semblance to sprint to the front car
2 Weiss could cast ice on the track and shatter it and that would derail the train.
3 once they found out the train cars were detaching and exploding Blake could have tied two cars together so when it exploded it would have caused a chain reaction destroying the train before it crashed through the barrier to the city.

Hitting a Corgi with a flamethrower/baseball bat seems dangerous.
How does Dust work?
If a full swing doesn't kill a dog how does a little bonk knock out a guard?
This is physics 101 shit but when two things hit each other they get hit with the same amount of force unless one of those things bounce, but the Corgi didn't even bounce off the mech it just plowed right through so... those robots are less structurally sound than a fucking dog...

When Yang and Clockwork Estrogen (Who's name is apparently Neo even though I have no idea how you know that)have this really personal intense scene before their fight, I felt like it was a pay off to a scene that they forgot was cut for time. Like, I think Yang maybe saw her for a second in episode 4. But the way she said "This one's mine" made it seem like they had some beef, over the way she ran away that one time?
Either way the fact that they split up seems reckless to me, especially because Blake parries the chainsaw guy when she passes him and if she hadn't done that Weiss would have been bisected right there.
Maybe they would have been more effective it they worked as a team... or ya know... actually attempted to stop the hoard... like they were told to do.

Still really cool fights though.
10/10 action 0/10 writing

Then Blake beast Torchwick effortlessly... which is a real anticlimax considering that she spent the first 7 episodes shitting her pants over him. Then she doesn't kill him! Seriously how many times is she going to not kill him for no reason?

Wiess jumps in slow motion but Chainsaw guy moves at regular speed to grab her. Maybe he just moves really fast and they used slow mo to demonstrate that, but... I just thought it was funny. and then Weiss gets slammed through a door that slides open sideways...

The portal sword lady (Who I think is Yang's mom) saves Yang from Neo, but leaves her unconscious, on the train that's about to explode.

Anyway that's my take on it, I really liked the action but that was about it.

 

[Izanagi009_v1legacy]

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My comments about the fight not feeling good enough were because of stuff like The Raid or some of the anime I watch, there wasn't that much life to RWBY's scenes. They felt stale and static. The chorography of the fights were serviceable but when we have something like John Wick out or Fate/ Stay Night, serviceable is not enough to get my attention

As for the writing, Yeah, two episodes of somewhat improved writing and then this.

Honestly, if they start taking fights from movies or fighting games, I will be sodding happy because we avoid the stupid Torchwick moments and get better fights. Seriously, Taokaka could beat him ten ways to sunday and she's a goddamn joke character. Also, it's not flashy or dramatic enough, I'm sorry but compared to the video I posted, these fights suck ass. If you are not going to show blood or staggering, show the damage on the environment: dents, blast damage, shockwaves, what we have is not enough.

Also, WHY DID WEISS HOLD THE SWORD AWAY FROM THE BIG DUDE? Fencing 101: keep the sword in front of you, you moppet.

yeah, 10 bucks on portal lady being Yang's mom and I swear if those blue blades create an ice prison when she stabs the ground, I will cringe. You know why, look at the video below


stop being so blatant. I said start taking fights from movies and fighting game but only in terms of presentation not whole powersets

 

[Mikeyfell]

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You mean The Raid: Redemption?
That movie is god tier action.

I think the action on RWBY does it's job... NO... I think those 3 fights in this episode and the fight at the end of episode 16 did their jobs...

Monty has a style that works for me, dismemberment would help a lot though,
And a big part of Monty's style is that everyone uses a strait sword regardless of what they're actually holding. it's pretty hilarious to watch Weiss swing her rapier around like it's bladed

I have no idea what' going on with Torchwick. The writing builds him up but the action knocks him down
It doesn't work for dramatic or comedic build up and I also wish I know what his end goal was.

 

[DaWaffledude]

When Yang and Clockwork Estrogen (Who's name is apparently Neo even though I have no idea how you know that)have this really personal intense scene before their fight, I felt like it was a pay off to a scene that they forgot was cut for time. Like, I think Yang maybe saw her for a second in episode 4. But the way she said "This one's mine" made it seem like they had some beef, over the way she ran away that one time?

Roman talks to her at the end of ep 4 before they get away, and uses her name.

And yeah, that was a bit weird. But I suppose Yang was really angry at the time.

 

[LawAndChaos]

yeah, 10 bucks on portal lady being Yang's mom and I swear if those blue blades create an ice prison when she stabs the ground, I will cringe. You know why, look at the video below

(video)

stop being so blatant. I said start taking fights from movies and fighting game but only in terms of presentation not whole powersets

Weiss has already been doing this for a while now, actually. I don't think there's been a single moment where she hasn't summoned ice this exact way. And of course during the first season she had an abrasive personality to match. (Although she didn't have the dismissive aspect of Jin's peronality, but eh)

Now if little miss Hakumen uses a massive sigil to perform a fatal counterattack on an enemy or something, or has a creed that sounds like Hakumen's, we're going to have a problem.

Also I think it's actually Ruby's mom, to be honest. Based on how she's dressed she gives off a very "not quite human" vibe, which would make sense if something happened to Ruby's mom that caused her to disappear. Now of course if it's Ruby's mom it wouldn't really make sense why she'd come to Yang's rescue but all the same the possibility that she's observing the crew is plausible, especially with the slashy portals letting her be wherever, assuming they let her be wherever.

To be honest, it's pretty easy to get wrapped up in the fight scenes and miss how bad the writing gets. That's the main reason so many people praised the shit out of episode 8 despite not catching how hilariously contradictory and just plain bad the writing was.

I have no idea what' going on with Torchwick. The writing builds him up but the action knocks him down
It doesn't work for dramatic or comedic build up and I also wish I know what his end goal was.

He's a jobber. He's there to build up the cast by repeatedly taking the fall whenever he fights one of them, and is mostly all talk. The real fights come from his henchmen, which means he's likely to be disposed of at some point or end up revealing that he's been "holding back" this whole time or some junk.

That means we might actually see the real huntsmen and huntresses, you know, the ones that already graduated from Beacon.

You think we might actually? I dunno, can we give them enough credit to do that instead of just handing the task to our main heroes and their pals? I dunno if they'll actually do it that way.

But did you notice that those fight scenes shouldn't have happened at all. (I mean I'm glad they did, but) right before the fight scenes Oobleck tells Yang Blake and Weiss to "find a way to stop those hoards" but instead of doing that they trek deeper into the train for no reason. "You 3 go below and find a way to stop those hoards" They do not do that, they don't even try. It's just sort of funny how they disobey the only order they get from the huntsman they're fighting alongside.

"Run and live."
"We gotta get over there!!"

Welcome to the clashing of Monty World and Miles Land. Miles writes something, Monty will contradict it for the sake of his action scenes. Fun stuff.

The term I believe is necessary here is "contrived." Basically the Grimm HAD to reach the city, so just have the characters not do a damn thing to STOP the train OR the Grimm hordes. Why? Just cause. No reason they couldn't obey Count Oobleck's order, no reason to actually do what he asked, no, instead we get contrived fight scenes and them disobeying orders, and THEN rather than stopping the train they simply take the time to save their own asses while the train itself smashes into Vale. Our heroes, ladies and gentlemen.

How does Dust work?

I love how we're still asking this when they released a freaking vignette dedicated to it. Basically they not only chose not to properly explain things, but they also are making shit up on the fly for convenience. The only reason, the ONLY reason I think the corgi fireball worked was that the dog is infused with dust or something. And that's just me speculating because NOTHING was established that Zwei could do that. At all. Not even a hint at it.

When Yang and Clockwork Estrogen (Who's name is apparently Neo even though I have no idea how you know that)

Neo because she looks like Neopolitan.

have this really personal intense scene before their fight, I felt like it was a pay off to a scene that they forgot was cut for time. Like, I think Yang maybe saw her for a second in episode 4. But the way she said "This one's mine" made it seem like they had some beef, over the way she ran away that one time?

This right here. I got kinda confused by this too, the way Yang said it, it sounded like a personal beef. The idea that they cut a scene for time though it both hilarious and sad. It's like the dance sequence a bunch of eps back. The episodes are short enough and not only have we had padding, we've now had cut scenes (no, not cutscenes, I mean, just...ah, nevermind). Even though they're fixing things there's lots of errors still going on here.

Then Blake beast Torchwick effortlessly... which is a real anticlimax considering that she spent the first 7 episodes shitting her pants over him. Then she doesn't kill him! Seriously how many times is she going to not kill him for no reason?

Shoot, I forgot to mention! Torchwick actually put up some semblance (heh) of a fight in the climax of season 1's finale. Why can he not seem to do that here? Has Blake really gotten that much stronger? Hmm....NO. It feels like we're looking at a payoff without the buildup, like Blake going through training or some personal motives that seemed to be causing her to hold back at first but she gets over it and wrecks Toadlick to show she's moved past it.

Then she doesn't kill him! Seriously how many times is she going to not kill him for no reason?

Imma quote a certain bandit-hating nutjob here.

"But I let her live, because that's what heroes do."

Now, thing is I can kind of (KIND OF) see why. These are warriors, but they're still just kids. They're not about to kill someone they could arrest and try to extract information from, and killing someone is a serious line to cross for anybody in a position of authority. Countless people have suffered because of the Joker, and countless more WILL suffer because Batman never kills his ass. It's a similar situation here, except that up until now Torchwich never really managed to get anybody innocent seriously hurt or killed. Now with the Grimm set loose on Vale it's likely we're going to see the cost of not icing his ass.

Honestly it's more serviceable than previous eps, but at the same time it's retreading volume 1's old ground, and that's not a good sign.

 

[Mikeyfell]

When Yang and Clockwork Estrogen (Who's name is apparently Neo even though I have no idea how you know that)have this really personal intense scene before their fight, I felt like it was a pay off to a scene that they forgot was cut for time. Like, I think Yang maybe saw her for a second in episode 4. But the way she said "This one's mine" made it seem like they had some beef, over the way she ran away that one time?

Roman talks to her at the end of ep 4 before they get away, and uses her name.

And yeah, that was a bit weird. But I suppose Yang was really angry at the time.

I feel kind of dumb that I missed that.
But it still seems wrong that Yang would have taken it so personally, Blake really should have been the one to be worked up over Torchwick getting away again. but I digress

 

[Shanahanapp]

Well at least the title isn't misleading. There really are no brakes on this trainwreck.

 

[DirectorK]

On the subject of not seeing the other teams from Beacon because they're out on other missions, we may get to see Team CFVY again. I'm still bitter that we only got to see Velvet in the outfit created from the competition Monty held a while ago for thirty seconds just so she can say a few lines.

The one thing I'm worried about though is that they have all the teams suddenly show up a few minutes into the final episode even though, as stated before, we know they're out on their mission all over the world. It might make sense if they showed up just in the nick of time towards the end, but if Monty has them show up a few minutes in just so he can have a long epic battle between numerous characters... well, you all know what will happen.

If they have real hunters and huntresses show up, let's hope we don't get overloaded with a bunch of new characters with forced intros. That's was the biggest problem with Volume 1.

 

[Izanagi009_v1legacy]

On the subject of not seeing the other teams from Beacon because they're out on other missions, we may get to see Team CFVY again. I'm still bitter that we only got to see Velvet in the outfit created from the competition Monty held a while ago for thirty seconds just so she can say a few lines.

The one thing I'm worried about though is that they have all the teams suddenly show up a few minutes into the final episode even though, as stated before, we know they're out on their mission all over the world. It might make sense if they showed up just in the nick of time towards the end, but if Monty has them show up a few minutes in just so he can have a long epic battle between numerous characters... well, you all know what will happen.

If they have real hunters and huntresses show up, let's hope we don't get overloaded with a bunch of new characters with forced intros. That's was the biggest problem with Volume 1.

Actually I have an odd theory about Team CFVY's leader

take a look at the next image and compare it to the leader

Spoiler: Eltnum

Spoiler: Coco

now take a look at Eltnum's fighting style in Under Night


I'm probably going paranoid but I can swear there are similarities between in their attires and their presumed styles (Coco has bullets on her bag belt). Honestly, RWBY is going to be a show that really pisses me off if they keep copying fighting game characters. The only thing making this theory uncertain is that Monty probably doesn't know about Under Night In-Birth.