Saboteur Zero Punctuation NO MENTION OF BOOBS?
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Yahtzee is becoming mainstream I guess, and like a lot of irreverant and "offensive" things that were appealing for that reason, i'd imagine he's having to clean up his act as he gets more attention. Probably because The Escapist doesn't want to risk a massive amount of negative pressure.
I could of course be wrong (maybe he'll address this in the next Extra Punctuation) but I've noticed the same thing and it vaguely reminds me of what happened to everything from Beavis and Butthead, to South Park eventually.
I'm sort of surprised that the obvious point about the French Resistance was not mentioned. Namely the fact that it didn't exist, or at least not to the extent/level that it does in popular fiction. One of the many reasons people don't like The French is that they were basically a group of Nazi sympathizers. Granted a lot of people were at the time, Hitler WAS an international man of the year, and even the US had to do a LOT of media control and propaganda to fight his popularity. A point people tend to forget (and what made him so scary). Hitler did not have the manpower to occupy the countries he took over, and in general nations like France put up a token resistance (so to speak) and wound up "surrendering" which actually amounted to welcoming an alliance with Germany. A lot of the people in these regions then of course provided the manpower for Hitler.
Thus there were not groups of Nazis running all over the place like jackbooted, machine-gun toting ants, building stuff, and hatching mechanitions for the resistance to halt. Or at least not german ones, they simply didn't have the german manpower. Oh sure there were French Nationalists backed by outside forces (especially the Russians though others like the British were involved), and when Germany was going down they were more than willing to switch sides again and scream liberation. What resistance existed having been a very minor thing overall despite the "legends".
Basically while many French get "offended" by this kind of thing, consider that it's quintessential French behavior going back all the way to when they were the Gauls and tried to backstab the Romans (Vicintix or however you spell it was their leader). France more or less can only be trusted to do what is in their own, immediate, self intrest. Unlike say Britan which isn't THAT unpopular (at least with the US). For example while a lot of Brits cry about "The War On Terror" they DID honor their alliance even if inconveinent. The French not only opposed it despite their alliance, but were violating treaties they helped put into place for self enrichment (Oil For Food scandal) and indirectly probably did a lot to help cause the entire problem to begin with by helping these guys through trade that they were never supposed to receive.
The point of this long rant (again) which I figure few will appreciate (and no I'm not going to argue it), is that I more or less agree with Yahtzee that it was a bad idea for a game. However it's not just that nobody likes The FRench (except maybe The Chinese, Quebec, and certain parts of Canada) but the fact that any kind of glorified French resistance in World War II is a bad idea, and in a lot of ways prevents us from learning a lot of the things that we SHOULD be picking up from World War II. It's the popular leader who is right about 95% of what he says that is a potential threat when his cult of personality gets to be too big. Hitler was not a raving madman with a handfull of thugs, and it was his charisma and the way the world loved him that allowed him to become the threat he did.
I could of course be wrong (maybe he'll address this in the next Extra Punctuation) but I've noticed the same thing and it vaguely reminds me of what happened to everything from Beavis and Butthead, to South Park eventually.
I'm sort of surprised that the obvious point about the French Resistance was not mentioned. Namely the fact that it didn't exist, or at least not to the extent/level that it does in popular fiction. One of the many reasons people don't like The French is that they were basically a group of Nazi sympathizers. Granted a lot of people were at the time, Hitler WAS an international man of the year, and even the US had to do a LOT of media control and propaganda to fight his popularity. A point people tend to forget (and what made him so scary). Hitler did not have the manpower to occupy the countries he took over, and in general nations like France put up a token resistance (so to speak) and wound up "surrendering" which actually amounted to welcoming an alliance with Germany. A lot of the people in these regions then of course provided the manpower for Hitler.
Thus there were not groups of Nazis running all over the place like jackbooted, machine-gun toting ants, building stuff, and hatching mechanitions for the resistance to halt. Or at least not german ones, they simply didn't have the german manpower. Oh sure there were French Nationalists backed by outside forces (especially the Russians though others like the British were involved), and when Germany was going down they were more than willing to switch sides again and scream liberation. What resistance existed having been a very minor thing overall despite the "legends".
Basically while many French get "offended" by this kind of thing, consider that it's quintessential French behavior going back all the way to when they were the Gauls and tried to backstab the Romans (Vicintix or however you spell it was their leader). France more or less can only be trusted to do what is in their own, immediate, self intrest. Unlike say Britan which isn't THAT unpopular (at least with the US). For example while a lot of Brits cry about "The War On Terror" they DID honor their alliance even if inconveinent. The French not only opposed it despite their alliance, but were violating treaties they helped put into place for self enrichment (Oil For Food scandal) and indirectly probably did a lot to help cause the entire problem to begin with by helping these guys through trade that they were never supposed to receive.
The point of this long rant (again) which I figure few will appreciate (and no I'm not going to argue it), is that I more or less agree with Yahtzee that it was a bad idea for a game. However it's not just that nobody likes The FRench (except maybe The Chinese, Quebec, and certain parts of Canada) but the fact that any kind of glorified French resistance in World War II is a bad idea, and in a lot of ways prevents us from learning a lot of the things that we SHOULD be picking up from World War II. It's the popular leader who is right about 95% of what he says that is a potential threat when his cult of personality gets to be too big. Hitler was not a raving madman with a handfull of thugs, and it was his charisma and the way the world loved him that allowed him to become the threat he did.
Ok, so everyone knows that there are boobs in it? Why does he need to mention it then? Well, guess 2010 took a step back from mature posts. If you really are obsessed with boobs in a video game that much, you really need help.
Agreed, it reminds me why I don't post on here much anymore the new posters the Escapist attracts are idiotic and that is putting it nicely.Pyromaniac1337 said:
That is all well and good but a few of your points are completely wrong. The Gauls are not the Modern French that would be the Germanic Tribe called the Franks the Gauls were pretty much assimilated and destroyed. While Modern France has at times tried to make a connection there really isn't one and anyone who descended from the Gauls is a minority.Therumancer said:
I dunno. "Mercenaries except rubbish" didn't appeal enough to me to buy the game.T-Bone24 said:
Boobs seem to be just a bit more common in games these days (and if you dont think so play the dante's inferno demo.... you may be suprised.
Hmm...
Number of words: 77
Number of 'boobs': 6
That's almost a ratio of 1 'boobs' per 13 words
Anything on the OPs mind, or am I reading too much into this?
[sup]Or is there something on my mind =P[/sup]
Number of words: 77
Number of 'boobs': 6
That's almost a ratio of 1 'boobs' per 13 words
Anything on the OPs mind, or am I reading too much into this?
[sup]Or is there something on my mind =P[/sup]
Maybe he just forgot to put in the Midnight Show.
Oh yeah its Yahtzee of course he did.
Maybe he was drunk, i don't know and i really don't care. Its not like they affect the game at all.
Oh yeah its Yahtzee of course he did.
Maybe he was drunk, i don't know and i really don't care. Its not like they affect the game at all.
