Saints Row: The Third to require online pass for co-op.

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Azure-Supernova

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Zachary Amaranth said:
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Then the fault lies with either the consumer or the distributor. A used copy is the distributors stock and profit and it's their job to inform customers of a used copies shortcomings.

Publishers distribute new copies with codes, they don't have to worry because anyone buying it new will have a code. A used copy is taken by a distributor who know full well that the second hand copy is potentially missing a code. It's also your job as a consumer to make sure you're informed on your purchase.
Wow, that is SUCH a cop-out.

"They're not keeping it a secret."

"Yes they are."

"Well then IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT!"

Goalpost shift, much?
Sorry, forgot I quoted you too.

But I maintain my point. If they wanted it kept a secret then they wouldn't have issued review copies with the pass. If they issue review copies with the online pass inside then it's guaranteed that information will be released. There's no note to the reviewers asking them to pretty please keep it from the consumers.
 

Amondren

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Oh dear I have to support the dev's oh poo :( . Meh so they have a online pass only bad thing about that is that I need to imput a code before I can play online.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
THEJORRRG said:
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Oh no, I have to pay the developers money to get access to all their product.

Whatever shall I do.

Woe is me.

*insert more sarcasm here*
Hey, if you want to promote anti-consumer policies, go for it.
How is it anti-consumer exactly?

I will buy the game new. Therefore I get the code, and the devs get my money.

Gamers today are self entitled.
Its anti consumer because we are not directing our money, its Gamestops fault that this exists, its not the consumer they should be fighting, just gamestop.

I will buy it on Steam.. So I don't care.
 

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Amondren said:
Oh dear I have to support the dev's oh poo :( . Meh so they have a online pass only bad thing about that is that I need to imput a code before I can play online.
It's not so bad on the PS3 since it literally takes like 6 seconds. I hear the 360 has like a 25 character code, though. Must suuuuuck.
 

kenu12345

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Sometimes I look at online passes and lose faith in the future of gaming
 

Amondren

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Kopikatsu said:
It's not so bad on the PS3 since it literally takes like 6 seconds. I hear the 360 has like a 25 character code, though. Must suuuuuck.
Yeaaaaa on the 360 it takes so long.
 

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This isn't really kosher since coop must have next to no server load. Ordinarily a game has a certain online life span (say 200-300 hours) but if it gets sold second hand that $60 now has to cover a potentially infinite online lifespan. Co-op? Not so much. If they do charge it should be like a buck.
 

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There are way to many entitled little shits on this thread for me to say anything other than:

Oh. My. God. They're charging you for a game! How ever shall you recover from the experience of actually paying for something in a world where you get everything for nothing!

Grow up, there are vastly more important things to be worried about.
 

CM156_v1legacy

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Radelaide said:
There are way to many entitled little shits on this thread for me to say anything other than:

Oh. My. God. They're charging you for a game! How ever shall you recover from the experience of actually paying for something in a world where you get everything for nothing!

Grow up, there are vastly more important things to be worried about.
You are aware of the irony of that statement, right?

I mean, if it's something not worth getting worked up over, then us getting worked up over it is something you shouldn't get worked up over. If that makes any sense. I kinda find that funny.

EDIT: Also saying there are "More important" things to worry about can apply to pretty much anything. Can I hold you to that next time you lodge a legitimate complaint?
 

kenu12345

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Radelaide said:
There are way to many entitled little shits on this thread for me to say anything other than:

Oh. My. God. They're charging you for a game! How ever shall you recover from the experience of actually paying for something in a world where you get everything for nothing!

Grow up, there are vastly more important things to be worried about.
First off, we are still paying for the game
Second u are the one that sounds like entitled shit
 

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THEJORRRG said:
THQ just joined Activision and EA on the "don't buy from" list.
They already did it with Space Marine. Oh and you're ignorant if you think it's a bad thing, it rewards those who bought new and gives used an inferior quality which they can pay just a little extra for a full game, that way they profit off of used game sales. I don't see why anyone is mad about this at all, especially considering this is only one part of a larger game, they could just make you pay for the multiplayer like CoD Elite or RE:5, but ooh no a measure which is meant to give used games a chance to survive before they ultimately bit the dust from either a government measure or digital downloads make physical copies irrelevant is so evil.
 

CM156_v1legacy

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kenu12345 said:
Radelaide said:
There are way to many entitled little shits on this thread for me to say anything other than:

Oh. My. God. They're charging you for a game! How ever shall you recover from the experience of actually paying for something in a world where you get everything for nothing!

Grow up, there are vastly more important things to be worried about.
First off, we are still paying for the game
Second u are the one that sounds like entitled shit
Now now, my friend. That's not a very nice way to talk to someone. Try to rise above calling someone an "Entitled shit". It makes you sound more... classy.
 

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God, why do people get so upset about this? Who cares? From a business perspective, it makes perfect sense. They don't make money from used sales. They want to have incentive for people to buy it new. You're playing the same game as everyone else and if you want to play online, either buy new or buy the pass. It's not that expensive and they have to make money somehow.
 

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Geez, you people are acting like you have to pay full-price for the online pass.
It's only $10-15 USD. If you're savvy enough, you can still save money buying a used copy around $30.
 

CM156_v1legacy

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ProfessorLayton said:
It's not that expensive and they have to make money somehow.
Here's the problem with that: They still do. Look at the big publishers (Who, by the way, are the ones doing this). The are still raking in millions of dollars every year. It's not as if they're starving. If a smaller studio did this because they were unsure if the game would sell well, I could understand that. But these guys? Not so much. THQ's net income was $136 million last year.
 

kenu12345

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CM156 said:
kenu12345 said:
Radelaide said:
There are way to many entitled little shits on this thread for me to say anything other than:

Oh. My. God. They're charging you for a game! How ever shall you recover from the experience of actually paying for something in a world where you get everything for nothing!

Grow up, there are vastly more important things to be worried about.
First off, we are still paying for the game
Second u are the one that sounds like entitled shit
Now now, my friend. That's not a very nice way to talk to someone. Try to rise above calling someone an "Entitled shit". It makes you sound more... classy.
Indubadely my good sir I just get frustrated to a varying degree when people call other people insults when they just state there opinion
 

Radelaide

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CM156 said:
Radelaide said:
There are way to many entitled little shits on this thread for me to say anything other than:

Oh. My. God. They're charging you for a game! How ever shall you recover from the experience of actually paying for something in a world where you get everything for nothing!

Grow up, there are vastly more important things to be worried about.
You are aware of the irony of that statement, right?

I mean, if it's something not worth getting worked up over, then us getting worked up over it is something you shouldn't get worked up over. If that makes any sense. I kinda find that funny.

EDIT: Also saying there are "More important" things to worry about can apply to pretty much anything. Can I hold you to that next time you lodge a legitimate complaint?
Currently, I live in a city getting pissed off about the council cutting down <a href=http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2011/10/13/3338901.htm>Fig Trees. My current complaint is how I'm going to afford the repayments on my house. Legit enough?

OT: I'm not getting worked up (not over this anyway), I'm stating a simple fact. Why are people getting upset over online passes? I've stated in another thread that if you buy the game new, you don't have to pay. If you buy the game used, you buy the online pass (for lets say $10) and you're generally getting the game cheaper for the new price anyway. Everyone wins.
 

CM156_v1legacy

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Radelaide said:
CM156 said:
Radelaide said:
There are way to many entitled little shits on this thread for me to say anything other than:

Oh. My. God. They're charging you for a game! How ever shall you recover from the experience of actually paying for something in a world where you get everything for nothing!

Grow up, there are vastly more important things to be worried about.
You are aware of the irony of that statement, right?

I mean, if it's something not worth getting worked up over, then us getting worked up over it is something you shouldn't get worked up over. If that makes any sense. I kinda find that funny.

EDIT: Also saying there are "More important" things to worry about can apply to pretty much anything. Can I hold you to that next time you lodge a legitimate complaint?
Currently, I live in a city getting pissed off about the council cutting down <a href=http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2011/10/13/3338901.htm>Fig Trees. My current complaint is how I'm going to afford the repayments on my house. Legit enough?

OT: I'm not getting worked up (not over this anyway), I'm stating a simple fact. Why are people getting upset over online passes? I've stated in another thread that if you buy the game new, you don't have to pay. If you buy the game used, you buy the online pass (for lets say $10) and you're generally getting the game cheaper for the new price anyway. Everyone wins.
I deem that a legit complaint. But some I know would berate you because you have a house, and there are homeless people. Again, saying "there are bigger things" can be applied to all but one issue. So don't go there. Trust me, m'lady

And using all caps in another font conveys the sentiment of getting "worked up", as it were.
 

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Good thing I didn't give a crap about Co-op then, or rather good thing I'm getting it new the day it comes out and getting the online pass included with it on the offhand chance that I may end up giving a crap about a Co-op.
 

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THEJORRRG said:


THQ just joined Activision and EA on the "don't buy from" list.
Can anybody say Badass (Johnny Gat, an irrefutable member of this class)? This actually slipped underneath my radar, though given the plethora of awesome single player (and cod) games being released right now, thats maybe understandable. SR 2 was just fecking anarchic fun, maybe only Prototype rivalled it in its dicking about potential. Yet another reason for me to avoid COD like the plague that it is.