Social acceptance, keeps me from being a jerk, since people tend to dislike such individuals - or at least it forces me to use subtle methods in order to manifest my will.Graustein said:
Satanism: Misunderstood
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I visited the church of satans website a while back and was completely shock
it has almost nothing to do with satan, their philosophies are fascinating, it IS bacically the polar opposite of christianity, more enthisis on living on your own terms
LOOK UP the satanists 11 rules of ghe earth .. believe it or not 1 of the rules is to never, under any circumstances harm or abuse a child .. one sais never kill an animal unless it's for consumption .. and treat all fellow humans with respect ... but here's the awesome part ... if that respect isn't returned then slay the fool .. or seriously injure the person ... forgot which exactly
it has almost nothing to do with satan, their philosophies are fascinating, it IS bacically the polar opposite of christianity, more enthisis on living on your own terms
LOOK UP the satanists 11 rules of ghe earth .. believe it or not 1 of the rules is to never, under any circumstances harm or abuse a child .. one sais never kill an animal unless it's for consumption .. and treat all fellow humans with respect ... but here's the awesome part ... if that respect isn't returned then slay the fool .. or seriously injure the person ... forgot which exactly
Hmm, it seems odd that you called religions bullshit and yet say you are close to being Buddist. How are you closest to being Buddhist? I would like to take some of their good, but I find it's much the same as nearly most other religions.Julianking93 said:
Thats just it. I'm not fully Buddhist, I just take a few things I like from it, and if you were to say I was any religion at all, I would be Buddhist. But really, I'm agnostic and or atheist. Some people have been so far as to call me a Nihilist, but I wouldn't go that far.PurpleRain said:
And religions are all bullshit.
I don't find religions are bullshit. I don't believe in them, but I wouldn't go that far to spread that sort of hate about them. Religion is good, fanatics are bullshit.Julianking93 said:
I just don't really like to side with Buddism. No partying, anti-homosexual, they have a lot of the same values of Christianity too. It's strange to go with one, but denounce the other.
Indeed there is no empirical evidence to support your claim. However, I greatly admire that you are fully aware of this. May I ask what makes you bet your money on christianity anyway?Seekster said:
See, that's why I'm not fully Buddhist. They are anti homosexual, they don't believe in sex before marriage, and they prohibit masturbation. And religion can be somewhat good, but only in the hands of rational people who can take morals from the little fairy tales in the bible and apply it into their own lives. But, unfortunately, there aren't many rational people in this world and they take these stories as truths and try to enforce these laws upon everyone else.PurpleRain said:
How about this, just look up The Westboro Baptist Church. That is what happens when you put religion in the hands of irrational people and this goes on constantly in my state and pretty much everywhere else I've been.
Huh, I find the majority of religious people very likable and not extremist in the least. Either you consintrate too much on that minority or it's the area you live in.Julianking93 said:
I personally find that to live only for oneself is completely lacking in maturity. I also find that to believe myself or any other human being to be the highest form of life in the universe is absolute foolishness.
Use your imagination for a moment-- we're all gaming geeks here, I believe, so that shouldn't be too hard.
Imagine there WAS an omnipotent being that created everything. Would it not have the right to impose any rules it desires, regardless of how fair or unfair?
What if it decided to make its presence known, and deigned to offer further existence to its creations past the normal time allotted to them?
What if it decided not to extend a friendly hand to those who actively rebelled against all it stood for; those who unapologetically did whatever they wanted regardless of who they hurt?
Then again, imagine after a long while, that it DID stack the odds back in favor of its creation.
And imagine further still-- if its creation decided NOT to believe in it, would it oblige by poofing itself out of existence?
Stop allowing yourself to be lead around by everyone who paints a picture of Christianity in old paintings with bearded saints in them. Why not study it for yourself instead of echoing all the same old bullshit I always hear from atheists? Make your OWN choices, not just what is currently popular! Approach the issue of faith the same way you would approach any piece of critical thinking: weigh the choices and consider the consequences.
What if all us Christians are RIGHT? Where does that leave you?
Is it really so awful to live for others and treat them decently? If aforementioned omnipotent being did indeed exist, would it be at all wrong to dedicate yourself to it? I know it's not cool, but since when do geeks need to be cool?
Sure, I'll get some hate mail for this, but I just thought that those who find satanism so "enlightening" might like a little "enlightening" about the religion you would rather taunt than study.
Use your imagination for a moment-- we're all gaming geeks here, I believe, so that shouldn't be too hard.
Imagine there WAS an omnipotent being that created everything. Would it not have the right to impose any rules it desires, regardless of how fair or unfair?
What if it decided to make its presence known, and deigned to offer further existence to its creations past the normal time allotted to them?
What if it decided not to extend a friendly hand to those who actively rebelled against all it stood for; those who unapologetically did whatever they wanted regardless of who they hurt?
Then again, imagine after a long while, that it DID stack the odds back in favor of its creation.
And imagine further still-- if its creation decided NOT to believe in it, would it oblige by poofing itself out of existence?
Stop allowing yourself to be lead around by everyone who paints a picture of Christianity in old paintings with bearded saints in them. Why not study it for yourself instead of echoing all the same old bullshit I always hear from atheists? Make your OWN choices, not just what is currently popular! Approach the issue of faith the same way you would approach any piece of critical thinking: weigh the choices and consider the consequences.
What if all us Christians are RIGHT? Where does that leave you?
Is it really so awful to live for others and treat them decently? If aforementioned omnipotent being did indeed exist, would it be at all wrong to dedicate yourself to it? I know it's not cool, but since when do geeks need to be cool?
Sure, I'll get some hate mail for this, but I just thought that those who find satanism so "enlightening" might like a little "enlightening" about the religion you would rather taunt than study.
Probably the area I live in. I live in Tennessee (that might be why...)PurpleRain said:
Anyway. I've been outside of the states before (Canada, the UK, and Australia to be exact), and its nowhere near as religious crazy as my town is. I'm actually thinking of moving there.
But no, I don't think every one who is religious is bad. I know plenty of people who are religious who are some of the nicest people I've met, its just a lot of them here go crazy. Every day there are some protesters with signs of aborted fetuses or a list of everyone who is going to hell (which usually consists of everyone)
Hmm, sounds it. I mean, I live in Queensland Australia and am going to live in Canada in 7 days (WOO!) so I've mostly avoided fanatics all my life. Most religious people I know generally keep their practices to themselves and are friendly awesome people.Julianking93 said:
Okay then, say I become a Christian. Then what if it is the Muslims who are right? Where does that leave me?Senmurv said:
Pascal's Wager is an interesting construction but flawed. It is just as likely that Christianity is the ultimate form of blasphemy than Satanism is. We simply do not know.
If you become a Christian and the Muslims were right (hypothetically) then at worst you are in the same position you would have been had you remained an agnostic or whatever you are. So what do you lose in the grand scheme of things? As I have said before if you die an Agnostic or Atheist then no matter who is right you are not going to benefit from it. So with that in mind its really kind of stupid...for lack of a better word...to argue "what if Christianity is wrong?" Even if it were wrong then it still doesn't change the fact that so are you.AntiChrist said:
Unfortunetly, only a few people in my town are like that. Some are, and I'm friends with them (most of my friends are atheist or agnostic though) but mostly its people like Fred Phelps. Canada is BEAUTIFUL this time of year! What part are you going to?PurpleRain said:
This. Christianity, and all religions for that matter, tried to teach one before they became corrupted by humans: live your life, but dont impede anyone elses. Satanism sounds alot like a gimmick to sell to unruly teens whose parents "don't understand them." Not to impose beliefs on anyone, but if your looking for an answer to why "God doesn't love you," just follow Deism. It basically says that God made the universe through scientific means, but died/is incapable of controlling/doesn't give a shit about what happens to you or humanity. I like to think He's generally entertained by us, but facepalms quite frequently.the antithesis said:
First of all, I can think of a few better characters than Satan...the computer from Portal for instance (Cake anybody?)Ryu2622 said:
Second of all I prefer the Bible to Paradise Lost when it comes to actual religious text. That is not to say that Paradise Lost is not a fascinating piece of fiction. I agree with your recommendation but its about as reliable as Dante' Inferno (another good read) when it comes to religious studies.