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BENZOOKA

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Grey Day for Elcia said:
BENZOOKA said:
It's a perfect action RPG. What else can I say.

The cinematics are outstanding.
Perfect? That word is criminally overused. You mean to suggest there is nothing at all that could be changed for the better in any way? Come now... In ten years when you play Diablo 4 you'll say the same thing and look back at this version and wonder how you even played it.

I dislike how misused the word perfect is. It's inane. perfect doesn't mean good, great or even amazing. It means there is nothing at all that could possibly be improved in absolutely any fashion--the graphics, the art, the music, the quality of the sound, the resolution, the writing, the design, all of it. By saying something is perfect, you are suggesting no further progress can ever be made.
Okay. A slightly bad choice of a word. I was going for 'great', or something that represents it exceeding my high expectations.

Although, since you happened to get all Larry David about it; perfect does not mean something that could never be improved, nor does it describe the absolutely most superlative thing there is.

This is straight from Merriam-Webster: b : satisfying all requirements : accurate. If perfect meant what you just described, the word might as well not exist, because there's basically nothing so immaculate that it didn't have a single fault nor could it be improved. Actually the latter would destroy the word 'perfect' completely, because there is the possibility of an improvement that no one has ever even thought of.

The Lego pieces attach perfectly. Who cares if a part of a piece could be a nanometre bigger and make it even more perfect.

Might as well throw in the examples from MW:He drew a perfect circle.
She's a perfect baby. She hardly cries and she sleeps through the night.
His behavior is a perfect example of what not to do.
This is a perfect time to have a wedding.
Going to the museum was a perfect way to spend a rainy day.
?Is that a big enough piece of pie?? ?Yes, it's perfect, thanks.?
 

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It's a fairly good game.

[small]But it's no Torchlight 2.. (I played the beta, not talking out of my ass)[/small]
 

Grey Day for Elcia

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Nice try.

Being entirely without fault or defect--flawless. -http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/perfect
Conforming absolutely to the description or definition of an ideal type: a perfect sphere; a perfect gentleman.

Excellent or complete beyond practical or theoretical improvement: There is no perfect legal code. The proportions of this temple are almost perfect.

Exactly fitting the need in a certain situation or for a certain purpose: a perfect actor to play Mr. Micawber; a perfect saw for cutting out keyholes.

Entirely without any flaws, defects, or shortcomings: a perfect apple; the perfect crime.

accurate, exact, or correct in every detail: a perfect copy.
-http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Perfect?s=t
Having all the required or desirable elements, qualities, or characteristics; as good as it is possible to be. - http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/perfect?q=Perfect
You did not mean it was perfect. You meant to say it is great.
 

BENZOOKA

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Grey Day for Elcia said:
BENZOOKA said:
Okay. A slightly bad choice of a word. I was going for 'great', or something that represents it exceeding my high expectations.

Although, since you happened to get all Larry David about it; perfect does not mean something that could never be improved, nor does it describe the absolutely most superlative thing there is.

This is straight from Merriam-Webster: b : satisfying all requirements : accurate. If perfect meant what you just described, the word might as well not exist, because there's basically nothing so immaculate that it didn't have a single fault nor could it be improved. Actually the latter would destroy the word 'perfect' completely, because there is the possibility of an improvement that no one has ever even thought of.

The Lego pieces attach perfectly. Who cares if a part of a piece could be a nanometre bigger and make it even more perfect.

Might as well throw in the examples from MW:He drew a perfect circle.
She's a perfect baby. She hardly cries and she sleeps through the night.
His behavior is a perfect example of what not to do.
This is a perfect time to have a wedding.
Going to the museum was a perfect way to spend a rainy day.
?Is that a big enough piece of pie?? ?Yes, it's perfect, thanks.?
Nice try.

Being entirely without fault or defect--flawless. -http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/perfect
Conforming absolutely to the description or definition of an ideal type: a perfect sphere; a perfect gentleman.

Excellent or complete beyond practical or theoretical improvement: There is no perfect legal code. The proportions of this temple are almost perfect.

Exactly fitting the need in a certain situation or for a certain purpose: a perfect actor to play Mr. Micawber; a perfect saw for cutting out keyholes.

Entirely without any flaws, defects, or shortcomings: a perfect apple; the perfect crime.

accurate, exact, or correct in every detail: a perfect copy.
-http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Perfect?s=t
Having all the required or desirable elements, qualities, or characteristics; as good as it is possible to be. - http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/perfect?q=Perfect
You did not mean it was perfect. You meant to say it is great.
That's what I corrected, first thing in fact.

So you're dismissing some of the meanings for the word, as well as disregarding its common way of use, which ultimately decides the meanings and changes them.

And if the word "perfect" is used to describe highly subjective things, like video games in this instance: that "there is nothing at all that could possibly be improved in absolutely any fashion" is really not the definition to go by, but rather "Having all the required or desirable elements, qualities, or characteristics" out from your examples.
 

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BENZOOKA said:
Grey Day for Elcia said:
BENZOOKA said:
Okay. A slightly bad choice of a word. I was going for 'great', or something that represents it exceeding my high expectations.

Although, since you happened to get all Larry David about it; perfect does not mean something that could never be improved, nor does it describe the absolutely most superlative thing there is.

This is straight from Merriam-Webster: b : satisfying all requirements : accurate. If perfect meant what you just described, the word might as well not exist, because there's basically nothing so immaculate that it didn't have a single fault nor could it be improved. Actually the latter would destroy the word 'perfect' completely, because there is the possibility of an improvement that no one has ever even thought of.

The Lego pieces attach perfectly. Who cares if a part of a piece could be a nanometre bigger and make it even more perfect.

Might as well throw in the examples from MW:He drew a perfect circle.
She's a perfect baby. She hardly cries and she sleeps through the night.
His behavior is a perfect example of what not to do.
This is a perfect time to have a wedding.
Going to the museum was a perfect way to spend a rainy day.
?Is that a big enough piece of pie?? ?Yes, it's perfect, thanks.?
Nice try.

Being entirely without fault or defect--flawless. -http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/perfect
Conforming absolutely to the description or definition of an ideal type: a perfect sphere; a perfect gentleman.

Excellent or complete beyond practical or theoretical improvement: There is no perfect legal code. The proportions of this temple are almost perfect.

Exactly fitting the need in a certain situation or for a certain purpose: a perfect actor to play Mr. Micawber; a perfect saw for cutting out keyholes.

Entirely without any flaws, defects, or shortcomings: a perfect apple; the perfect crime.

accurate, exact, or correct in every detail: a perfect copy.
-http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Perfect?s=t
Having all the required or desirable elements, qualities, or characteristics; as good as it is possible to be. - http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/perfect?q=Perfect
You did not mean it was perfect. You meant to say it is great.
That's what I corrected, first thing in fact.

So you're dismissing some of the meanings for the word, as well as disregarding its common way of use, which ultimately decides the meanings and changes them.

And if the word "perfect" is used to describe highly subjective things, like video games in this instance: that "there is nothing at all that could possibly be improved in absolutely any fashion" is really not the definition to go by, but rather "Having all the required or desirable elements, qualities, or characteristics" out from your examples.
Again, the word you are looking for is great, or maybe amazing, or perhaps even near-perfect. Perfection is the point at which nothing can be done to better the situation or object. It's always meant that and it will always mean that.

I've no clue why you're attempting to argue this with me, especially after admitting your error. You have nothing further vested in this, so your continued semantics are rather queer to me. I've studied English at length and know full well its application. You won't show me anything I've not seen.
 

BENZOOKA

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Grey Day for Elcia said:
Perfection is the point at which nothing can be done to better the situation or object. It's always meant that and it will always mean that.
And "perfect" is also an adjective for something that satisfies all requirements. That's all I've been saying. To correct your inadequate, narrow definition.

Enough for me. Off to enjoy, what promises to be, a perfect weekend.
 

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BENZOOKA said:
Grey Day for Elcia said:
Perfection is the point at which nothing can be done to better the situation or object. It's always meant that and it will always mean that.
And "perfect" is also an adjective for something that satisfies all requirements. That's all I've been saying. To correct your inadequate, narrow definition.

Enough for me. Off to enjoy, what promises to be, a perfect weekend.
I highly doubt there was not even a single element of the game you would change, from a minor movement of UI, to a voice actor, there would have been something that could better satisfy all requirements. If people had your mentality, Pong would have been the only game--I'm sure that game satisfied all requirements and was "perfect," amirite.

But you are of course free to misuse words. Just know that you will be corrected.
 

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Off-set by a) the fact that the player has literally no control over how they level up, ie. the exact opposite of what an RPG should be, .
Total aside, a lot of the greatest RPGs of all time have ordinary level ups, rather than allowing the player to choose stats. Looking at Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest (pre-skill selection), etc., etc.

And before ANYONE tries to argue that they aren't RPGs; you're wrong. Plain and simple. :) Good day.
 

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The Human Torch said:
I like the login screen. Which is good, considering:

Cause you will be seeing plenty of it! :D
It's true. I've seen it for about a total of one minute spread over about 25 hours of game play.

I was also disconnected once, and lost about 2 minutes of progress as a result. I had to kill like 20 zombies all over again. 20! I was practically weeping blood by the time I was through.

It's an outrage! Where can I get my $60 back?
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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It's great fun to play multiplayer. I haven't had any problems with it so far. Playing a barbarian on hardcore mode atm it's good.

My only complaint is that the levels are a little too similar to Diablo 2's.
 

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BloatedGuppy said:
The Human Torch said:
I like the login screen. Which is good, considering:

Cause you will be seeing plenty of it! :D
It's true. I've seen it for about a total of one minute spread over about 25 hours of game play.

I was also disconnected once, and lost about 2 minutes of progress as a result. I had to kill like 20 zombies all over again. 20! I was practically weeping blood by the time I was through.

It's an outrage! Where can I get my $60 back?
If only all of us could have that ratio. I've disconnected 8 times in 1 hour of playing. And the last 2 times I was actually kinda enjoying it too. And I had gotten t like the end of an area, but nope, better do it all again.

And no, it's not my internet, since I've been playing plenty of other games with no problems, including Path of Exile, which is also server based, and have disconnected, oh, twice in about 50 hours of playing. And lost NO progress because of it, also.

Just thought I'd point out my experiences as a contrast to yours is all, glad you're enjoying (and actually getting to enjoy) the game! =D
 

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The gameplay is actually very fun, the skills are good, and even though there is the case of drm, the only problems I've ever had with it is that at one point blizzard decided to shut the servers down for a while and gave me a 5 minute notice. So I closed d3 and played DOTA 2 for a while.
 

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Sandjube said:
If only all of us could have that ratio. I've disconnected 8 times in 1 hour of playing. And the last 2 times I was actually kinda enjoying it too. And I had gotten t like the end of an area, but nope, better do it all again.

And no, it's not my internet, since I've been playing plenty of other games with no problems, including Path of Exile, which is also server based, and have disconnected, oh, twice in about 50 hours of playing. And lost NO progress because of it, also.

Just thought I'd point out my experiences as a contrast to yours is all, glad you're enjoying (and actually getting to enjoy) the game! =D
I don't doubt it, really, but it's irritating to see "servers always down" presented as a universal truth, when in fact it seems to be fairly randomly allocated depending on your location and how badly you've been fucked by the luck fairy. It's not like I'm a light gamer, I've put in many hours with Diablo 3, and so far its been relatively robust (with the exception of the AH, which lags terribly).

It's not a perfect game by any means, but it's getting unfairly pilloried in some corners.
 

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BloatedGuppy said:
Sandjube said:
If only all of us could have that ratio. I've disconnected 8 times in 1 hour of playing. And the last 2 times I was actually kinda enjoying it too. And I had gotten t like the end of an area, but nope, better do it all again.

And no, it's not my internet, since I've been playing plenty of other games with no problems, including Path of Exile, which is also server based, and have disconnected, oh, twice in about 50 hours of playing. And lost NO progress because of it, also.

Just thought I'd point out my experiences as a contrast to yours is all, glad you're enjoying (and actually getting to enjoy) the game! =D
I don't doubt it, really, but it's irritating to see "servers always down" presented as a universal truth, when in fact it seems to be fairly randomly allocated depending on your location and how badly you've been fucked by the luck fairy. It's not like I'm a light gamer, I've put in many hours with Diablo 3, and so far its been relatively robust (with the exception of the AH, which lags terribly).

It's not a perfect game by any means, but it's getting unfairly pilloried in some corners.
I agree completely. I had to quell my rage-hate at it but when I did I found that I could judge parts of the game fairly, finding parts I both liked and disliked. I would've played longer if I could probably, heh. Hopefully they patch the servers more or my luck gets better or...something, damn.
 

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Its fun and satisfying to kill things, which is the meat of the game.

That part of it works very well, the combat feels great.
 

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BloatedGuppy said:
The Human Torch said:
I like the login screen. Which is good, considering:

Cause you will be seeing plenty of it! :D
It's true. I've seen it for about a total of one minute spread over about 25 hours of game play.

I was also disconnected once, and lost about 2 minutes of progress as a result. I had to kill like 20 zombies all over again. 20! I was practically weeping blood by the time I was through.

It's an outrage! Where can I get my $60 back?
Here. [https://eu.battle.net/support/en/]

No, I'm serious, this worked for me.

Oooooow, you are sarcastic, sorry, didn't notice that. It happens when two sarcastic posts collide. It's like unstoppable force =/= immovable object.