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Treblaine

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One I used to not understand but do now:

"To have your cake and eat it"

Is apparently a corruption of "To eat your cake and (still) have it" this is "to have" in the present tense and in the possessive tense as In "I have a car" and "I have a cake (on a plate".

The confusion is "to have a cake" has come to mean you have eaten it as in "I had steak for dinner".

Really the idiom is like that of a baker who has a cake they want to sell and also a cake they want to eat as in "You want to eat your cake yet still have your cake left over afterwards"

So the phrase means wanting to have it both ways that defies common sense. Like a business who wants you to pay insurance fee and then pay damages when you try to claim on insurance.
 

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MrTiki said:
Not necessarily. For example, nothing can travel faster than the speed of light. That is a rule. There is no exception to it, and yet it is still a rule. If there was an exception to it, then it would disprove the rule.
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TheDarkEricDraven said:
"The exception that proves the rule". What the fuck does that mean? If its an exception, it doesn't prove anything!
There is the old saying that every rule has an exception. No broad rule is completely infallible. So once you start finding a few exceptions to a rule, it shows that the rule has been critically examined, weaknesses acknowledged, and still deemed to be fairly reliable. Once you know that there are exceptions, but that they are very rare, you can more safely assume that the rule is a strong one that people have tried to poke holes in, but only has a few minor leaks.

EverythingIncredible said:
Because the bottom if your heart is supposedly deeper down into it.

Then again, that might have made more sense if it was the center and not the bottom. But back when that was invented, everything was measured in up/down.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conceptual_metaphor

Basically, people understand things as metaphors, and certain concepts imply very fundamental concepts. As we understand basic objects and structures as being strong and solid on the bottom, we understand the idea of bottom to be on a more basic, fundemental, and integral level. You understand the idea of center being this, even though from a definition standpoint, this is irrational. "Bottom" carries similar connotations to "Center". Possibly you are thinking of the metaphor of heart slightly less abstractly? If you think of the heart as a real, physical structure, center makes more sense, while bottom is more easily understood in this case when applied to an abstract concept.

supersupersuperguy said:
I've never understood what it meant to "have one's cake and eat it too". I mean, what else are you going to do with a cake? A cake is functionally useless if you can't eat it. Unless, of course, you're going to throw it at someone, and I'm sure not going to do that. It's my cake! I have it and I'm going to eat it, too!
It's a simplification of an older phrase that stated the intent more clearly. Basically what it is saying is, "To both eat your cake and also to have it AFTER YOU EAT IT. If you eat it it is gone, and you no longer have it. So the idea here is a person who wants to benefit from something more then is realistic.

Shreder55 said:
"At the wrong place at the wrong time"

Never really got it. If your at the wrong place at the wrong time then you should be fine because its the wrong time. What it should be is,

Wrong place at the right time.

or

Right place at the wrong time.
If you are on a firing range right in front of the target, that is a wrong place. But if it is the right time, say, when no one is shooting, you are fine. But if it is also the wrong time, such as when people are shooting at the targets, you are in trouble, and might get shot. Anyone who happens to be in that target range/wrong place and gets shot will certainly call it the wrong time to be there.

chach_face said:
"Made to order"
It is meant to imply that the food is only cooked after you order it. Made to order, literally, means it is already made and then you can order it.
"Not made until you order it" would be a more apt saying
Or, a logical expanding of this phrase would be, "Made to fit your order" or "Made to your orders specifications". Personally, I think that that is the more natural interpretation, and I had to do some serious stretching to understand your interpretation.

OutcastBOS said:
"Paying through the nose". I know it means to pay a lot of money, but still!
This one I had to research a tad. Theres a theory about slitting noses being a punishment for tax evaders. More reasonable seems to be the theory that a punch in the nose is a good tactic for collecting outstanding debts. But the best explanation seems to be a pun on the use of the word, "Rhino" being used as slang for money. Also, think Rhinoplasty, and you will see the nose/money connection. Im not sure there is any certainty on this, however.

Mr.PlanetEater said:
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend." I have never been able to grasp this concept, I mean its sound on paper I suppose. But when you apply it in real life its really flawed logic, just because you have an enemy that has another enemy doesn't mean you and enemy of your enemy should be buddies. For all you know enemy of your enemy is also your enemy, but you guys both just happen to have a common enemy.
You're not being sufficiently Machiavellian :) An enemy to your enemy can at least be manipulated into furthering your goals. It doesn't always work in practice, but thats why you don't always have to use the saying.
shadyh8er said:
"It's better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all."

Sorry hon, but I've seen what happens to people who love and lose. It ain't pretty!

How many of them then wish they never loved in the first place? Its more of a philosophical disagreement, but certainly is, say, your mother died, you wouldn't wish that you had grown up an orphan.

King Toasty said:
"A bird in the bush is worth two in the hand."

What?
If you want to eat a bird, you can either take 1 dead bird you already have and cook it up, or you can go outside, find a bush where theses a partridge after hours of hunting, take out your gun, and hope that you can kill 1 of those 2 birds. 1 bird already on hand is a lot easier, and probably worth equal to or more then 2 potentially, after a lot of work, birds in the bush.

I think I enjoy trying to explain these too much...
 

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Kukulski said:
Actually it does make sense. You say "wrong" because the incident that occured in that particular time and space was undesirable. It is assumed that it is "wrong" for it to happen.

CODE-D said:
Fight fire with fire-which im sure is awesome but impractical.
It is very practical in open terrain. If something is already burned then it cannot carry the fire further. That's why a controlled, easily put-out fire to burn everything in front of a burning inferno will stop it's advance. You're welcome.
How did you quote him if your post is above his 0.o I'm seriously scared here...
I am ninja'd here, but have your cake and eat it? I can see the logic but it still is stupid because the saying is supposed make cake out as being something you would want to have for a final purpose OTHER than eating... strange strange world of English...
 

Treblaine

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Alon Shechter said:
"I don't know nothing."
I don't get it.
Surely it is well established in English that a double-negative is not necessarily a positive.

This seems to be a combination of "I don't know anything" and "I know nothing".

Don't think of it literally, read it emphatically, the person who says this is being earnest in combining two phrases of denial as in they REALLY know nothing.
 

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Andrew Pate said:
MrTiki said:
Not necessarily. For example, nothing can travel faster than the speed of light. That is a rule. There is no exception to it, and yet it is still a rule. If there was an exception to it, then it would disprove the rule.
Tachyons
Demonstrate that they exist, and we'll talk.
 

Brandon237

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Kukulski said:
brandon237 said:
How did you quote him if your post is above his 0.o I'm seriously scared here...
You need to have your forum health meter in the red to be able to do that.
Damnit, I'm not even green I'm so clean... Ah well, no time-travel for me :(
But honestly, how the hell? I have seen the escapist glitch... but that... damn.
 

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TheDarkEricDraven said:
"The exception that proves the rule". What the fuck does that mean? If its an exception, it doesn't prove anything!
That's from the older meaning of "prove" which is "test" so it's putting the rule to the test.
 

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The Brewin said:
xchurchx said:
I live in cornwall and there are hundreds sayings over here such as A1 meaning im ok
but the one i dont get which i heard my mother speak recently is "Butter wouldn't melt in your mouth" which some how means you are too nice :l how does it?

Your misreading this one, the term in its fullest is more akin to 'she acts like butter wouldn't melt in her mouth'. The phrase is not so much that the person is too good, but rather, they act and present themselves that they are so good, even butter wouldn't melt in their mouth (essentially your claiming you are so good, the impossible is possible)


Hope that helps
Cheers thar friend
 

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King Toasty said:
"A bird in the bush is worth two in the hand."

What?
Wrong way round. A bird in the hand, that you've actually succeeded in catching for dinner, is worth twice as much as one that you know is out there somewhere but haven't actually managed to grab yet.
 

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Kiefer13 said:
This is more just a mistake rather than an actual saying, but I *really* don't understand why some people feel that the phrase "I could care less" (rather than "I couldn't care less") actually makes sense.

David Mitchell explains it better than I.
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I think what it's implying is that while the person honestly couldn't care less for whatever may be undesirable, the use of "I could careless" may be an emphasis on this. Or maybe a nicer way of saying the aforementioned?
 

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-Dragmire- said:
A stitch in time saves nine. no idea wtf this means.
Fix that damaged seam now before the rest of it gives way and you end up having to sew the whole tunic back together.
 

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LoFr3Eq said:
When in Rome...

I'm sorry nobody has seen Anchorman and did not get my joke.

In the movie Anchorman: The Legend of Tom Burgundy, he is told by his attractive co-worker Veronica who he is showing the city, "When in Rome...". He does not know what this means and explains that he has never heard it before. Veronica then says that the full expression in "When in Rome, do as the Romans do." He still does not understand because he is an idiot.

Ron tries to later use the saying, but since the context is completely wrong Veronica tells him that the phrase doesn't really apply to the situation.
Jokes are less funny when you have to explain them.
 

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Sikratua said:
"Don't look a gift horse in the mouth." No. Seriously, what the hell?
Didn't we just do this in another thread? You judge the age and thus the worth of a horse by examining its teeth, but if someone gives you a horse you should just be glad of the free horse, whether it's one year old or five, because HEY! FREE HORSE!

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Jaime_Wolf said:
People who think that people are "incorrect" when they say "could care less" necessarily have a fairly tenuous understanding of how language actually works.
Your MOTHER's got a fifth legendary carbuncle in the refrigerator!

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Sikratua said:
However, if you say that something is "The Dog's Bollocks," that is seen as high praise. Not exactly sure why.
It's a simplified form of "standing out like a gun-dog's bollocks," meaning, thus simplified, outstanding.

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excusablegold said:
"less haste more speed"
wait, what?
I've heard this one the other way around: "More haste, less speed."

What it means is that by hurrying too much and making lots of mistakes, you actually make progress at a slower rate.

Trying to build a bird box, you quickly draw out all the pieces you need and cut them, then find out you've got it wrong and have to start again. If you'd just taken the few seconds to get the drawing part right, you'd have saved yourself several minutes of getting another plank and sawing that up.

In the rush to set off to the party, you forget the gifts. You have to turn round and go back for them, which takes a lot longer than making sure you picked them up before leaving the house.

Trying to impress the pretty girl a week before the end of the school year, you skate into a lamppost and rebound into the path of a car. She sleeps with the romantic geek while you're retaining your virginity in hospital.

I think you heard it as advice whereas I heard it as a comment.

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lumenadducere said:
"Same difference" is a combination of "same thing" and "big difference." I have no idea what smacktard decided that it was a good idea to go around saying it, but I do know that I first began hearing it several years ago and had never heard it beforehand. Somebody started it, it spread like the plague, and that person needs to be backhanded.
http://www.goblinscomic.com/01282011/

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Ironic Pirate said:
But it's the emphasis on could. I could care less, it's entirely within the realm of possibility, but I already care so little that it is an unlikely eventuality.
No. It's just wrong. Really.

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AngelSephy said:
I think what it's implying is that while the person honestly couldn't care less for whatever may be undesirable, the use of "I could careless" may be an emphasis on this. Or maybe a nicer way of saying the aforementioned?
No, really, it's just WRONG.

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brandon237 said:
Nevermind. I see now. That.bloody.edit.button. I have never seen someone edit into an old post though... ever. I feel stupid now :(
Took you long enough. :p
 

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AngelSephy said:
Kiefer13 said:
This is more just a mistake rather than an actual saying, but I *really* don't understand why some people feel that the phrase "I could care less" (rather than "I couldn't care less") actually makes sense.

David Mitchell explains it better than I.
<YOUTUBE=om7O0MFkmpw>
I think what it's implying is that while the person honestly couldn't care less for whatever may be undesirable, the use of "I could careless" may be an emphasis on this. Or maybe a nicer way of saying the aforementioned?
Except it's not. It doesn't mean the same thing, at all. It's just one of those silly little mistakes that's been repeated and perpetuated so much that some people seem to think that it's the correct phrase instead of an illogical malapropism.
 

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Kukulski said:
brandon237 said:
Kukulski said:
brandon237 said:
How did you quote him if your post is above his 0.o I'm seriously scared here...
You need to have your forum health meter in the red to be able to do that.
Damnit, I'm not even green I'm so clean... Ah well, no time-travel for me :(
But honestly, how the hell? I have seen the escapist glitch... but that... damn.
I'm going to make you figure this out on your own, because that way you will facepalm way harder. :D
No, tell me, I am so confused, it said you posted that 4 minutes before 0.o That is... insanity. My mind is twisting on this one :(
Nevermind. I see now. That.bloody.edit.button. I have never seen someone edit into an old post though... ever. I feel stupid now :(
 

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Arkvoodle said:
"Greatest thing since sliced bread." What the hell's so great about bread slices???
Because sliced bread is the single greatest feat of human innovation.