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[auronvi]

I play the 5 placement games...

Win 3/5 and get placed in gold. I am pretty proud of myself...

Now I haven't won a single game since. I keep losing to cheap tactics and other bull. I have never been amazing at RTS games and it is something I am trying to get better at but when all I can do is just sit there when all my SCVs die in the first 5 minutes of a game, idk what else to do. I can't get better by losing over and over. Can I downgrade myself to silver or something so I can at least feel like I am against a player of similar skill to myself.

3/5 for the first 5 games and now i am 0/5 for the next 5. Something tells me I have been placed in the wrong bracket. It's very frustrating. I mean I enjoy the single player stuff but I don't want to just verse A.I forever.

I need a mentor maybe.

 

[AnOriginalConcept]

What race do you play? What rushes do you have trouble with?

No, the only way to go down is to lose many matches.

 

[TerranReaper]

Well, if you lose enough, you will get demoted to a previous ladder (At least from what I've heard). But I find that in the lower leagues, "cheese" (Reaper Rush, 6-pool, cannon rush, etc) are a lot more dominant due to people not being able to stop them. Since you're in gold league, I'd imagine you're losing because you're getting outplayed and not because of "cheese" tactics (Although they still exist). We could possibly give you some tips on improving your play if you tell us how exactly you've been losing (Maybe posting your replays helps).

 

[Rednog]

It happens, I really wish the system would just let people go back into placement games. You really should just focusing on walling off or rushing the first couple minutes off the game. You have to choose one or the other and pretty much stick to it. Strategy also depends on what kind of games you're playing 1v1, 2v2, etc.
I rarely do 1v1 because the game more often than not becomes a constant toss back and forth until one side makes a mistake and is crippled/killed.
2v2 you both play like its solo mode for the first 2-3 mins by walling off or getting ready to rush, if you wall off you plan one person to go air other ground.
3v3 I usually have one person just build defense for everyone (most likely the toss if there is one) and the other 2 tech/expand as fast as they can and then drag the person who spent their stuff on defense up.
Also you might want to just try and stick it out best you can and learn from replays, I know that before I had to quit I was rank 1 in silver for 2v2 and I kept winning and it didn't toss me into gold, I was like wtf, I guess its harder to break into the next bracket or something.

 

[auronvi]

Well, if you lose enough, you will get demoted to a previous ladder (At least from what I've heard). But I find that in the lower leagues, "cheese" (Reaper Rush, 6-pool, cannon rush, etc) are a lot more dominant due to people not being able to stop them. Since you're in gold league, I'd imagine you're losing because you're getting outplayed and not because of "cheese" tactics (Although they still exist). We could possibly give you some tips on improving your play if you tell us how exactly you've been losing (Maybe posting your replays helps).

LOL, ironic how your reaper was the cause for my demise in my last game.

To respond a bit, I play Terran. And those cheese tactics you were mentioning are about all I come up with since I started this gold bracket. I guess I will learn how to counter them but it is becoming frustrating since EVERYTHING COUNTS. I skipped the beginner league cause I will be honest, I was dominating it and it bored me. But going from winning every round to just being rolled over sucks. Where is the middle ground?

Reaper, teach me your ways! lol.

 

[Canid117]

It should adjust and move you down on its own eventually. Did you play the practice league?

 

[auronvi]

It should adjust and move you down on its own eventually. Did you play the practice league?

I played about 10 games in it and was getting bored. If I want to roll over an opponent, I will just play some A.I games. Now I think I am going to focus on beating the A.I. on higher and higher difficulties. I can kill Hard consistently but I think I am going to move on to Very Hard.

If you want to friend me on there so you can teach me some tricks, let me know, I will message you my name on battle.net

 

[TerranReaper]

Well, if you lose enough, you will get demoted to a previous ladder (At least from what I've heard). But I find that in the lower leagues, "cheese" (Reaper Rush, 6-pool, cannon rush, etc) are a lot more dominant due to people not being able to stop them. Since you're in gold league, I'd imagine you're losing because you're getting outplayed and not because of "cheese" tactics (Although they still exist). We could possibly give you some tips on improving your play if you tell us how exactly you've been losing (Maybe posting your replays helps).

LOL, ironic how your reaper was the cause for my demise in my last game.

To respond a bit, I play Terran. And those cheese tactics you were mentioning are about all I come up with since I started this gold bracket. I guess I will learn how to counter them but it is becoming frustrating since EVERYTHING COUNTS. I skipped the beginner league cause I will be honest, I was dominating it and it bored me. But going from winning every round to just being rolled over sucks. Where is the middle ground?

Reaper, teach me your ways! lol.

Contrary to my name, I view Reapers as the least viable unit to be used in the Terran arsenal.

Anyways, it's true that you need to take everything into consideration, but a common error with most players (In ALL leagues) is the lack of scouting which leads into a fast banshee quickly ending the game or mass void rays. Knowing what the other guy is doing is vital to what you should get, for example, you can tell the player is going reapers due to the following: he has two barracks with tech labs and doesn't have a maruader out yet (Depending on when you scout, he just might be getting one out) as well as two early refineries. You should always try to find out what the opponent is doing, since you are playing as Terran, you can use the Orbital Command's scan to instantly find out what your opponent is doing, but you should also send a SCV out to scout early on.

Of course, that's just some basic tips, it would help if you give me a replay of a game with you in a 1v1, preferably, one with a decent length.

 

[auronvi]

Of course, that's just some basic tips, it would help if you give me a replay of a game with you in a 1v1, preferably, one with a decent length.

Ok, I will do that. Finding a good one now.

 

[Canid117]

It should adjust and move you down on its own eventually. Did you play the practice league?

I played about 10 games in it and was getting bored. If I want to roll over an opponent, I will just play some A.I games. Now I think I am going to focus on beating the A.I. on higher and higher difficulties. I can kill Hard consistently but I think I am going to move on to Very Hard.

If you want to friend me on there so you can teach me some tricks, let me know, I will message you my name on battle.net

While that might give you some build Ideas the AI is no where near as creative or as adaptable as a real person. It might help a little but your still going to get fucked over by the guys in your league.

 

[Aenir]

If you join the SC2 group here on the Escapist and post in chat, you'll get lots of help.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/groups/view/The-Escapist-Starcraft-2-Players

If you keep on doing poorly eventually Battle.net will knock you down to Silver.

Assuming you're on the North American server, I might be able to help with basics and such. Just message me whenever, Aenir.798

Frankly placement matches aren't the best indication of how you'll do and based off this thread it sounds like you'd be more comfortable in silver.

 

[Jake Chant]

hey add me if u want ill try to help u out i pplay toss but im decent with terran so ill try to help

crazmonke 613

 

[auronvi]

Where would the best place be to post my replays? What sites do you guys use?

 

[Reshkar]

I've been placed in bronze league in 1vs1, 2vs2 and 3vs3. I think it's great, then I can practice more and eventually proceed to next league.

And I play most Protoss, when doing matches and practice with my friends.

 

[Avaholic03]

In order to get better, you have to be able to stop an early rush (especially the cheese rushes). You can use SCVs to help your marines against lings or zeals (since they have higher HP, they can absorb damage while your marines attack). One extremely useful thing is to make bunkers near your mineral line early on. Once you get a decent army, you can salvage the bunkers and get 100% of that money back. As for the cannon rushes...you just need to scout better and kill that probe ASAP before it can build.

Hope that helps. Let me know if there are any specific rushes that are giving you trouble. I've got pretty good at surviving early game as terran.

 

[auronvi]

In order to get better, you have to be able to stop an early rush (especially the cheese rushes). You can use SCVs to help your marines against lings or zeals (since they have higher HP, they can absorb damage while your marines attack). One extremely useful thing is to make bunkers near your mineral line early on. Once you get a decent army, you can salvage the bunkers and get 100% of that money back. As for the cannon rushes...you just need to scout better and kill that probe ASAP before it can build.

Hope that helps. Let me know if there are any specific rushes that are giving you trouble. I've got pretty good at surviving early game as terran.

Havn't encountered the cannon rush yet. Scouting does seem to be my problem. I just want to use all the energy to make M.U.L.Es instead of the scanner. What else makes good scouts for Terran? Also still need a good site to post my replays on.

 

[Avaholic03]

Havn't encountered the cannon rush yet. Scouting does seem to be my problem. I just want to use all the energy to make M.U.L.Es instead of the scanner. What else makes good scouts for Terran? Also still need a good site to post my replays on.

Yeah, I try to use MULEs too. If you get a factory fast enough, 1 or 2 helions are great for scouting and worker harass. But even before that, send out an SCV (like once you finish your 1st supply depot, use that one) to scout and see if they're rushing. If a zerg gets a very early spawning pool, or if protoss get a forge or a few early gateways, or if terran gets a tech lab and early gas, then you can bet you're gonna get rushed.

If you're not great with micro, hold down shift and issue multiple waypoints to your SCV. That way it keeps moving while you can focus on early game macro. As always, a good early wall stops many rushes even if you only have 1 or 2 marines. And like I said, make good use of bunkers because they're basically free and allow your marines to survive much longer.

EDIT: it should go without saying that using SCVs to repair your wall and/or bunkers is essential if you're getting rushed really hard.

 

[Jake Chant]

id be happy to help u reshkar or u auronvi willing to meet new ppl whenev

 

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