Because the metal detectors were put there to detect cell phones.Cowabungaa said:That's sort of...sad, really. I mean sheesh, when a teacher caught someone texting in class they just took it away for a week or so and that's that. But friggin' metal detector? What kind of police state nonsense is that?
At my school, "no phones in class or the hallways" actually worked.Baresark said:Damn, when I was in school, cell phones were rare, and people still got in trouble for using them on the rare occasion someone did. This does prove one very important point to society though. Punishment is not a deterrent for breaking the rules. Clearly they tried punishing kids and it didn't work at all, so they banned them. Now, if only this lesson could be established for law making bodies we can get society back on track.
It took it as "it would be bad enough an idea even if the school didn't have a gun problem.Zen Toombs said:I think you meant with instead of without.
That would be great if all high schoolers were minors. Hell, some of the kids in my school were parents. Explain to me exactly who SHOULD be the emergency contact for their kids?Scars Unseen said:1) Minors really shouldn't be emergency contacts since in most places you can't legally make decisions for the other party in an emergency.
Naked and on fire? Bah, we were forced to wear 50 lbs. of lead lined wool so that the fire would keep burning. Random passers by were encouraged to spray us with lighter fluid. Our lava didn't flow up hill or down, it flowed in a series of separate but adjacent vortexes. The dogs that chased us were coated with barbed wire and had bees in their mouths so when they barked they shot bees out of their mouths. And these weren't your ordinary bees. These were bees the size of tennis balls. Heck, I wish we had blizzards once in a while. It would have taken our minds off of the baseball sized hail we had to deal with the rest of the year, which was made worse by the gale force winds. However, the absolute worst part was the giant squids. Damn things were bred to live in lava like it was water. And they had razor blades where you'd expect there to be suckers.redisforever said:That's it?! Lava?! Ha! I had to march 30 miles to school, naked, on fire, in the snow, uphill, and when I got there, the teachers would make us go all the way back down, backwards! [/complaining old man]
1. There can be people 18 or 19 years old in high school. In fact the normal age for graduation is 18. Not a minor.Scars Unseen said:1) Minors really shouldn't be emergency contacts since in most places you can't legally make decisions for the other party in an emergency.Jodah said:Actually there are times that it is important. I was an emergency contact for my grandmother when she was in the hospital. They had my cell phone number, not the school number. It's easy to say your parents can call the school if they need you but a hospital or emergency room doesn't have the time to go through 2 or 3 different phone numbers to figure out where you are followed by waiting for you to get to a phone. That can take 10, 15, even 30 minutes. In an emergency situation that is a lot of time.Scars Unseen said:No. There is nothing that is going to happen to your parents that is going to going to critically worsen because someone had to call your school office and have them pull you out of class instead of calling you directly. You do not need a phone on your person at all times. You may not like to leave your phone behind, but make no mistake: it is a luxury, not a necessity.Sarah Frazier said:There's no way I'd go to a school these without a phone for emergencies. Not just in case I get in a car wreck, but because of the health problems my parents have been having. If something happens to them, why should I not be told just because a bunch of techno-brats won't put their own phones down for a few hours?
I guess what I'm saying is... I can understand the school wants the students to focus, but there may be a few rare cases where they need to be in contact in case something happens at home. Why not confiscate phones from those who abuse having them, and put them on a list to have the phones put in storage before they go to class?
2) Given number 1, whether it takes 10, 15 or 30 minutes would be irrelevant since you would be unable to make any meaningful contribution to the resolution of an emergency.
Quite frankly, imperialus's suggestion that smartphones can be a positive addition to the classroom environment carries a lot more weight than any excuses I'm hearing as to why you just absolutely NEED a phone. Adults managed without portable phones for quite some time(and yes, people had emergencies back then too). I can't see why a minor can't do so for 8 hours.
Do schools in your area not have landlines? I wouldn't send my kids to (or, when I was younger, I'd have refused to attend) a school too disorganised to be able to pass on a message to a student.Sarah Frazier said:There's no way I'd go to a school these without a phone for emergencies. Not just in case I get in a car wreck, but because of the health problems my parents have been having. If something happens to them, why should I not be told just because a bunch of techno-brats won't put their own phones down for a few hours?
I guess what I'm saying is... I can understand the school wants the students to focus, but there may be a few rare cases where they need to be in contact in case something happens at home. Why not confiscate phones from those who abuse having them, and put them on a list to have the phones put in storage before they go to class?