School using GPS to track students that skip
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Well, everyone's probably thinking its up to the kids so there's no mention of the parents. Which of course is rather dumb, since if gave kids the option, they'd just as well not go to school at all.Saucycardog said:
Grants mostly. If you're scores are low when you test the kids school wide the state doesnt fund the school so much after a certain point. No school funding means no abilities to buy things for the school. Which means your school eventually closes, you (as any faculty) lose your job, and its really hard to go to another school saying you couldnt keep your kids in class so they shut down your previous place of employment.Fr said:
Besides, again, you're throwing away 300-400 dollars worth of tech. Alright, school makes you pay for it. Bet youre pissed and you dont wnat to do that. then they give you another. Throw that one away, 300-400 dollars again, plus a small increase. And another. You sell this one, think if they're going ot charge you, you're not losing money. So they make you replace, with an increased increase, and possibly jail time for stealing/misuse of school property.
BUt you dont care cause you continue to be truant, which leads to a 2000 dollar fine to your parents. Guess who's pissed now. and guess whose ass is now going ot be in school, so there's not ANOTHER 2000 dollar slip of paper in the mailbox.
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R, The school has thought this out. The point of this is to help curb, then stop completely.
This is an abomination. They call it optional, but if you don't say yes they threaten to fine you $2000 and put ur kid in Juvenile Hall. It's so incredibly wrong that they can get away with this. I am, once again, disgusted by society.
FOR THOSE WHO SAY THAT THIS ISNT OPTIONAL:spartan231490 said:
You're going to pay 2000 dollars for truancy anyway. Its called TRUANCY LAWS! What, you think police like taking time out of their day to visit your hosue cause your kid is too dumb to realize that that they need that education?
and yes, I'm going to edit my own statement.
To the person I quotes, sorry, you were the most recent person to post and say this.
Sober Thal said:
Yes having an alibi is very useful. One problem with the GPS tracking of the phone to prove innocence.Nouw said:
Hypothetical:
Kid finds a way to get out of the house and get back in without the parents finding out. The kid leaves the phone in his/her room. While out, the kid commits a crime. Well, the GPS in the phone said that he was home all night, and his parents vouched that the kid was in his/her room all night though they didn't check during that time. Kid didn't get seen or caught doing said crime. Perfect crime? The kid didn't get seen and his/her phone gives the alibi of being at home all night.
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Teenagers aren't under the eyes of their parents 24/7.
Another thing on this GPS thing in the school. They have to enter in the tracking code five times. It's a GPS tracker, it should be tracking 24/7. The code makes me think that it doesn't, that entering the code causes a GPS ping for a brief moment to "check-in" to show where the kid is. Even though the kid has to do it 5 times a day, that still leaves hours in places where the kid can find a way to leave the school for a couple hours and then be back in time to enter the code.
Though now that I think of it, the GPS could be tracking 24/7 but the code is to prove that the kid is the one holding it, because there is the possibility that the kid gives it to a friend and then skips school, said friend wouldn't know the code, but again there is a problem, the kid could tell the friend the code.
This system seems to have a ton of loopholes, though since it has kept attendance up, I'm guessing kids these days aren't smart enough to find out ways around the system without getting caught.
Stupid way to spend money, but there's nothing morally wrong with it. People who decry it as extortion are viewing it totally in the wrong light. It's more like insurance. A way to de-incentivize kids from skipping (they know they will be caught).
I personally love the idea. There are these kids at the school I go to who just skip every day and still pass. They are just wasting the money that is putting them through school. I say, we ether enforce it more and keep tabs on them, or kick them out and stop caring if they go anywhere since it's their decision.
Only if the parents are found to be "turning a blind eye" though. Having a delinquent child is probably recognized as being different than being negligent. And it requires special investigation, so it's not like you skip one class and are slapped with a $2,000 fine.XxRyanxX said:
I knew people who skipped classes all the time and never heard of anyone being investigated for truancy. The only time I ever heard of a truancy call was my brother who was picked up for wandering around during school hours, of course they didn't know he was suspended and mostly wasted time.
I think schools should stop wasting time punishing kids for skipping. If a kid skips, he misses out on the material, it's his responsibility to catch up. If he drops out of school and becomes a failure, fuck him. His fault for being an irresponsible prick. If schools spent half the time, energy, and money they spent on catching skippers instead making schools suck less (for instance, replacing textbooks that are falling apart, hiring teachers that know a thing or two about the subject they're supposed to teach, you know, minor accessories) then kids may not see school as being quite so much a worthless waste of time and they wouldn't want to skip to begin with.
This would also have the side effect of making schools more appealing to the kids that already have some interest in their education.
This would also have the side effect of making schools more appealing to the kids that already have some interest in their education.
Wow, sucks for you kids coming up. I guess fun is being stamped out. I must have missed half my senior year in high school, graduated with honors, and have enough scholarships to get a full ride through a private university.
I'm disappointed. If kids are too stupid to know when they need to go to class and when they don't... maybe they don't deserve the education that's being given to them. I skip class sometimes, my grades are pretty damn good. My school doesn't track me via GPS just because I miss a couple classes. It seems a bit excessive to me.
So, not only are children forced to sit in a situation designed to crush independent thought, force conformity, destroy their desire to learn, brainwash them into believing whatever the government decides on, and encourage the students to ostracize certain demographics (usually whatever is "different") but the kids don't even get any option to take a break every once in a while?
I say the people who came up with this program should be put in prison. Preferable a "pound-me-in-the-ass" prison. Treating children like prisoners is a good way to cause them to snap and start running down the halls with machine guns.
I say the people who came up with this program should be put in prison. Preferable a "pound-me-in-the-ass" prison. Treating children like prisoners is a good way to cause them to snap and start running down the halls with machine guns.
Is there really a line between being a prisoner and being a student nowadays?
And THIS is what tax money is being spent on? Schools are falling apart, there are barely enough decent text books going around and they're focusing on truancy? This is why we should be led by people from the current generation rather than letting the old generation cling on to old and outdated ideals.
So basically, you're jealous of them? If they managed to pass the class then I'm fairly sure they studied. Staying in school should not equate with accomplishment. If they skip then they're not interessed in that particular class. Keeping them in class will not change their opinion about that class and even worse they might end up annoying other students.spartan1077 said:
And THIS is what tax money is being spent on? Schools are falling apart, there are barely enough decent text books going around and they're focusing on truancy? This is why we should be led by people from the current generation rather than letting the old generation cling on to old and outdated ideals.