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Spoonius

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When it comes to reading or watching a sci fi movie or book, what really gets on your nerves? It might be common cliches, technobabble, bias (racism, sexism, etc), scientific inaccuracy, unoriginality... the list goes on.

Remember that I'm talking specifically about science fiction, but if you have an answer that you think applies to every genre, then please feel free to post it anyway.

Thanks in advance... :)
 

DividedUnity

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Cheesy sets are a big turn off for me. And as said already when they ignore science. I like my sci-fi with a good bit of realism too especially like the remake of BSG. Its even true to physics :O (on the most part)
 

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PayJ567 said:
When they ignore SCIENCE! You want to make a Science Fiction film make it stay true to the science part.
I don't mind that so much; if real science is sacrificed for plot or whatever then I'm ok with it. I mean, they're an author, not a physiicist. Although, I do hate it when it's not consistent with itself.
 

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When they use fiction in science.

"IF WE PUMP ENOUGH OXIGEN INTO SPACE, WE CAN BREATHE IN IT!"

That instantly ruins a story for me.
 

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When the humans are evil because they are humans and when aliens beat humans.
 

Caiti Voltaire

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What bothers me so much with the science in science fiction is not so much its accuracy in the real world but when it gets inconsistent with itself.

Space marines in power armour were getting overdone after Starcraft, too, let alone before all the Halo fappery.
 

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That the whole universe is:
1 - Humanoid
2 - Materials are all Earthly
3 - Anything that is not Starship Troopers, As it is WIN
 

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When sci-fy tries to get overly political, its why i never liked the new BSG. Sci-fy should ask philosophical questions, like what is it to be human (or another intelligent being). Rather than Thomas Hobbs was right HAR HAR HAR.

Also Sci-fy doesnt have good characters its pisses me off (new star trek for an example). Also i dont care if Sci-fy has cheap sets, I loved TOS and still do today it doesnt bother me that it looks bad by todays standers.

Also when sci-fy completely abandoned science it's terrible (again new star trek as an example.

Sci-fy needs a brain first and foremost. Other than that it really doesnt require a lot to make a good one.
 

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space battles where ennemies fight at point-blank range.. and SO many other things.
 

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tellmeimaninja said:
I hate alien invasions or anything that instantly portrays anything non-Human as completely genocidal for no reason. Not so coincidentally, I like sci-fi where the aliens are portrayed as heroes, such as District 9.
Totally this.

Also, how come Aliens are always the ones with the laser-rifles? Why can't we be space-conquerers, and their species is in their stone age? WHY NOT? I'm sick of us being invaded, and us winning EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
 

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Generic futuristic cities. Generic futuristic cities often equals generic futuristic storylines.

A futuristic city is almost always portrayed as a metropolis, and small towns, countryside and villages seemingly don't exist anymore. Metropolises (metropoli?) come in only two flavours: the industrial, crime ridden dystopia, or the beautiful, superficially-utopian city which has a terrible secret and is hiding its dystopian elements in the closet with the skeletons.

These cities will usually be in the shit due to a single specific element, such as it is run by fascists, or it is plagued with dangerous androids, or the global environment is haggard. Thus, the solution to these one-note problems is equally as specific and straight-foward (kill the fascists, kill the androids, kill those who are killing the environment etc.). Often this requires a rebellion to do the job, often led by a person who worked for the government, but switches sides and takes up the cause.

Very few sci-fi cities avoid this type of classification. A decent future city is not an outright dystopia and does not have a single glaring flaw, but rather a number of complex issues which have to be juggled around and compromised over. A city in which a simple rebellion will not solve everything.

Ghost in the Shell is one of the few examples I can think of which does a future city correctly. Cowboy Bebop is another one, by virtue that there is no one left to blame for the sorry state mankind is in, and whilst humans live precariously, they do not live in an outright dystopia. Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou desesrves a final honourable mention by not including any cities at all, and by turning what should be a dystopia (a post-apocalypse in which man-kind is dying out) into a paradise (where one can run a coffee shop and gaze at the countryside all day).
 

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DividedUnity said:
Cheesy sets are a big turn off for me. And as said already when they ignore science. I like my sci-fi with a good bit of realism too especially like the remake of BSG. Its even true to physics :O (on the most part)
Why did you like the new BSG? while the initial mini series was really good, and the first season was fun, it just got way to damn political, and the only twist was person X is cylon.
Yes i have seen the original and liked it more.

The physics in that show was really good and so were the space battles. dosnt forgive the story in my opinion.
 

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I find I only have a certain amount of disbelief to suspend in a given film. So I don't mind a ridiculous premise on it own but when it is followed by endless Deus Ex Machina I get bored and begin to lampoon things. Equally I don't mind a believable premise that uses Deus Ex sparingly!
 

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WINDOWCLEAN2 said:
That the whole universe is:
1 - Humanoid
2 - Materials are all Earthly
3 - Anything that is not Starship Troopers, As it is WIN
Agreed, although other stuff can be good.

OP: Are you asking for that book you're writing? The one about the war that kind of mirrors the pacific theatre of world war two? I think I told you my turn-offs in a thread abou that, but I'll repeat them in case of the likely event you forgot.


Lasers used as weaponry: They sound weak and are kinda lame.

Aliens that look like humans with shit makeup/masks: I'm all for good drama over perfectly accurate science, it is science FICTION after all, but unless your aliens are different then humans, just make them humans. Makes more sense and probably saves you some money.

Finally, make it cool. I know it's awesome when everything is scientifically plausible, but we wan't entertainment.
 

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Oldmanwillow said:
DividedUnity said:
Cheesy sets are a big turn off for me. And as said already when they ignore science. I like my sci-fi with a good bit of realism too especially like the remake of BSG. Its even true to physics :O (on the most part)
Why did you like the new BSG? while the initial mini series was really good, and the first season was fun, it just got way to damn political, and the only twist was person X is cylon.
Yes i have seen the original and liked it more.

The physics in that show was really good and so were the space battles. dosnt forgive the story in my opinion.
oh i havent really been watching the latest episodes. I watched it for a while after the whole new caprica thing but there was a big falling out over the tv. Everything before that though was pretty good. The characters had their flaws but thats what I liked about them, the space battles were immense and there were a few good plot twists too
 

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All humanoid aliens (and most other aliens for that matter).
The "star trek solution" wherein someone discovers a way to make technology fix a problem in no time flat.
Trying too hard to make things look "futuristic" that ends up looking pathetically dated in a decade or so.

No surprise that my favorite sci-fi series was Firefly/Serenity. No aliens, no magical solutions, and a decidedly realistic feel.