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Blindswordmaster

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I recently watched Pandorum. Why doesn't Hollywood know how evolution works? You don't get a race of sub-human cannibals in just 900 years. The breakdown of human civilization would do it, but their explanation was evolution. Read "The Origins of Species" you mother fuckers!
 

Nuke_em_05

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If it is based in our reality, it needs to stay "feasable".
If it establishes its own reality, it needs to be consistent.

All aliens are humanoid.

Humans and/or the Aliens are genocidal.

Humans are less intelligent than the discovered species.

That life forms from two completely different parts of the universe would have even remotely enough in common to communicate with each other or even recognize one another.
 

blindthrall

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Humanoid aliens. The chances are so much against it, yet there's always a few humanoids just strolling around, nevermind the fact that Earth, the planet the form evolved on, has only ever spawned one humanoid species. Where are the squidfolk and crab people? I know they're Earth analogues too, but at least they're forms a few species have found useful.

English speaking aliens. We would be lucky to be able to communicate with aliens. It's a leap of faith assuming they even vocalize, it's more likely they would use flashing colors or scent markers. It's the one thing I hated about District 9, that alien prawn-speak was as hard to master as Spanish. The novel Solaris deals with this very well, the idea that communication with a nonhuman sentience (including God) is impossible.

Morbo being the exception to all this.
 

Sylocat

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Ah, I can handle the classic pulp tropes... sexy aliens, pseudoscience that makes real scientists' brains hurt... heck, one of my current class projects is to re-create an old Flash Gordon radio episode.

The things I can't stand are:


  • ? "Science Is Bad." I watch/read/play science fiction to GET AWAY from the anti-intellectual bullshit that permeates the spaghetti westerns and other right-wing power fantasies, I don't need world-destroying eggheads in the geek genre!

    ? Internal inconsistencies. I can suspend my disbelief fine, but keep track of your own rules, for fuck's sake!

    ? Anything not human wants to kill everything human, for no reason!

    ? And while I realize that Tropes Are Not Bad, I've still had it up to here with the Grizzled Space Marine.
 

Athinira

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Whenever things turn to "magic" when the setpiece is clearly set up for "science".

The most recent example in my mind (because i watched it a few days ago) is the first Blade Movie, where what started out as Vampire "genes" (science) turns into the antagonist using a prophecy/ritual to steal the souls of 12 pure blood vampires. It was so terrible.
 

The Heik

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PayJ567 said:
When they ignore SCIENCE! You want to make a Science Fiction film make it stay true to the science part.

EDIT: Yeah, I don't mind if they sacrafice some of it for plot.
I'm with PayJ here. If a sci-fi film has nothing to do with any form of science, then I hate watching it. I don't mind if a little of it pushed out of the way to keep the story going, but there's a certain limit to the flexibility of sci-fi before it simply becomes fantasy in the future.
 

Sprogus

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Pretty much the humanoid aliens and the fact that most alien cultures are just a variation of some human culture. Also the way most sci fi always ends in a giant space battle. It just gets boring after a while.
 

The Undoer

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I like space age oppression in a film with more than say 5 involved intelligent alien species, we can't have everything being rich, prosperous, and almighty, I like the Argonians in Morrowind, equal to everything else but still oppressed into slavery.
 

Hollock

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I don't like seeing blade runner style cities in every sci fi movie.
It's okay sometimes, but most of the time bleeehgh.
 

wasalp

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StarStruckStrumpets said:
Totally this.

Also, how come Aliens are always the ones with the laser-rifles? Why can't we be space-conquerers, and their species is in their stone age? WHY NOT? I'm sick of us being invaded, and us winning EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
avatar?

On a side note. acronyms save a lot of room and typing but if people don't know what they are it can get frustrating. What in the world is TOS?!?!?
 

Arachon

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Hollock said:
I don't like seeing blade runner style cities in every sci fi movie.
It's okay sometimes, but most of the time bleeehgh.
Can't say I've seen many "Blade Runner"-style cities in films.
 

Nocturnal Gentleman

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blindthrall said:
Humanoid aliens. The chances are so much against it, yet there's always a few humanoids just strolling around, nevermind the fact that Earth, the planet the form evolved on, has only ever spawned one humanoid species. Where are the squidfolk and crab people? I know they're Earth analogues too, but at least they're forms a few species have found useful.

English speaking aliens. We would be lucky to be able to communicate with aliens. It's a leap of faith assuming they even vocalize, it's more likely they would use flashing colors or scent markers. It's the one thing I hated about District 9, that alien prawn-speak was as hard to master as Spanish. The novel Solaris deals with this very well, the idea that communication with a nonhuman sentience (including God) is impossible.

Morbo being the exception to all this.
Have to say everything you mentioned bothers me most of the time as well. I also have to admit I laughed when you mentioned squid people because I couldn't help but remember the octopus people from galaxy quest.
 

HentMas

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when they rip off someone elses idea and fuck with the status quo, I robot was a good film, except it generally says "FUCK YOU" to the very man that created the base line of the story, i mean, if they are going to make wathever they want then why did they had to put on the "Isaac Asimov" shirt?? why not call it something else entirely and just use the baseline of the "robot rules"??

its like me doing a painting of a dick with a weird smile and telling everyone i was inspired by the mona lisa!
 

Stefania Klayn

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Hm, what never fails to annoy me is when space battles are treated as 17th-18th-century battles at sea (i.e., ships stand opposite each other and shoot cannons...). No one attacking from above or below, as if space were entirely 2D.. Granted, I don't see this very often these days.

On another note, I do realize that for plot reasons at least SOME laws of physics will usually be broken, but I really like it when the authors stick to the rules they've established - otherwise it becomes a complete mess very quickly, to the point where I'm so disgusted I might not even finish the book/movie/whatever.
 

GodKlown

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What gets my goat is gratuitous sex scenes. They got quite prominent towards the late 80's and through the mid-90's, and often it never made any sense towards the plot, just a ploy to get horny nerds to see some chick getting smashed.

For anyone to dislike technobabble in sci-fi seems a bit ironic to me. It's science FICTION, which means they are allowed to make up a bunch of stuff that makes no sense to excuse why something exists when current science can't explain it, such as being able to travel faster than light speed with some sort of compensator. If anything, it should make you laugh or think rather than dislike that it is there. If it weren't for that crazy technobabble, nerds of today couldn't daydream how to make these inventions a reality.
 

Varanfan9

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How their never seems to be an alien race less advance than us unless they are tribal or animal. Also when there aren't giant monsters. Those were a requirement in the olden sci fi days.
 

annoyinglizardvoice

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Child characters

USA saving everyone

Getting the science wrong

Useless female characters (particularly if they're just there for fanservice)

Loud explosions in space
 

cheese_wizington

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Furburt said:
When a sci-fi relies far too much on actual scientific information, but actually messes it up. I can't give specific examples, but it annoys me.

Actually, I didn't like it in Avatar when that happened, but then I read James Camerons whole backstory book for the film, and had to concede that the man knows what he's talking about.
Holy Shit! I didn't know that was out yet! Can you please give me the title?

OT: Any science fiction movie that displays sound in space. (I'm looking at you Star Trek.)