Science: Sperm, Homosexuality and Primordial Soup

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Science: Sperm, Homosexuality and Primordial Soup

Everything your textbooks have taught you is a lie.

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AvsJoe

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That fa'afafine thing is pretty interesting. I've always wondered about the point of sexual preference and homosexuality in general when the subconscious goal of our species is to procreate and pass on our genes. Also, I didn't know that about sperm either and would never have bothered finding out. Thanks Lauren!
 

SharedProphet

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The "kin selection hypothesis" doesn't explain very well how the gene is passed on. I suppose they explain this with the possibility that their kin may have a recessive copy of the same gene? Still... doesn't seem like a complete explanation to me.

Lauren Admire said:
Lauren Admire wonders how the primordial soup tasted.
There are so many ways to get into trouble responding to this. : )
 

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It's a biological grand-slam!

I think that someone also discovered that sperm are attracted to the scent of lavendar oil, it was one of those interesting moments on QI. As for primordial soup, I just wonder what the croutons were made of.
 

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Actually, my Biology textbook covers both of the theories about how life on Earth started: the primordial soup one and the hydrothermal vents one. But, overall, informative article as usual. I've heard about the quantum mechanics in plants thing before, but she explained how it worked very well here.
 

Lauren Admire

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SharedProphet said:
The "kin selection hypothesis" doesn't explain very well how the gene is passed on. I suppose they explain this with the possibility that their kin may have a recessive copy of the same gene? Still... doesn't seem like a complete explanation to me.

Lauren Admire said:
Lauren Admire wonders how the primordial soup tasted.
There are so many ways to get into trouble responding to this. : )
Sorry for the confusion! Because they share a certain amount of genes with their nieces or nephews, by helping with their growth and development, they vicariously ensure at least a portion of their own genes prospering.
 

Lauren Admire

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TheSeventhLoneWolf said:
Interesting read. I've also realised how awesome the name 'Admire' is. What a name.
I didn't start enjoying it until well after high school. Before that, just...too many awful jokes. :D
 

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Lauren Admire said:
TheSeventhLoneWolf said:
Interesting read. I've also realised how awesome the name 'Admire' is. What a name.
I didn't start enjoying it until well after high school. Before that, just...too many awful jokes. :D
All I can think of is random jokes that turn out wrong and make them sound like they're admiring you. Which makes me giggle.
 

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About the Kind Selection thing, I think I read somewhere last year about scientist who discovered a link between genes thought to be responsible for male homosexuality and their functionality in females. It went along something like that if a male has those genes they are gay, if a woman has them they are more sexually active and generally have more children, thus the level of reproduction is actually increased and male homosexuality is a side effect.

edit: found it http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0002282

Though personally I think that both views are rather simplistic, it could be a mixture of both, neither and something totally different, we just don't know enough about human sexuality works in relation to our genetic make up yet.
 

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I wish my biology books had atleast lied to me about this kind of interesting stuff, all i remember is being shouted at for forgetting the chemical composition of amino acids and trying to recite the 20 something parts of a cell, fun times.

But yeh its not shocking that some stuff that was taken as fact is fiction i mean at one point we thought the sun revolved around a flat earth, i imagen in the future people will laugh at there stuff ancestors who tried to discover a magical "Hig's Boson" or as it was refered to in those days "the god particle"
 

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Jaredin said:
Looks like plants are set to conquer the world O.O
Look around you, they are everywhere.. already. Even in your home, in your meals. YOu wear some too.

All hail our green gods!

On topic- Interesting article, we just have to wait and see if scientists can make something out of this. Maybe some green pills so we can function like the Orks in WH40k.
 

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Well, it is interesting.....but what the hell is the point about learning where we came from? why not concentrate on the Future, which could actually affect us in a significant way. My question is if homosexuality is a gene that what about Bisexuals? or asexuals? or pansexuals? I say leave the topic of homosexuality out of science because if it doesn't hurt you or anyone else in anyway, does it really matter?
 

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Plants know how to use quantum physics? Well hot diggity, instead of metal ships to travel faster than lightspeed, we might create giant plant space ships for it! Using the power of the sun to kick to the stars.
 

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Thanks for the update Lauren! I never knew plants were quantum objects, in a sense. And I aught to sue superpositioning or whatever in my soon-o-be-realised Sci Fi RP.
 

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Demonraiser said:
Well, it is interesting.....but what the hell is the point about learning where we came from? why not concentrate on the Future, which could actually affect us in a significant way.
Agh, don't say that! Unfortunately that's the mind set of a lot of biology professors and researchers; the majority of them don't really care how organic materials first formed on Earth. They just start off with the assumption and continue with the RNA-world hypothesis.

Don't you find it interesting? If we know how life started on Earth we'd be better able to predict which kinds of planets to expect extra-terrestrial life. Unlike sci-fi shows we can't just whip up a "Life Signs Detector" and see life from spaceships.

Furthermore, knowing how life started on Earth would allow us to replicate the "Experiment" and create new life of our own. We'd be able to add our own selection pressures, and who knows, we could be creating new species!