Scientific and mathematical inaccuracies, misconceptions and errors that get under your skin

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FuhrerVonZephyr said:
"Evolution is just your opinion"

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Well, that's me (and, let's face it, this entire thread) pretty much done. Although by extension, people's misunderstanding of the words 'fact' and 'theory' in a scientific context. In another thread, even after myself and at least three other people had explained to this guy that a scientific fact is not a 100% truth, he still refused to accept that evolution is a fact and went on with the whole "it's just a theory" nonsense.

Oh, and I fucking hate when people come out with reasonings about bullshit supernatural stuff that can be cleared up with some Googling. The amount of times I've seen, "I believe in souls/spirits because the energy has to go somewhere once you die," is astounding.
 

Shinsei-J

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Dangit2019 said:
higgs boson discovery:

1. Ha! Finally! Science proved/disproved God!
I had to slap so many people over that.

Most of my hates have been said already but I'll say this one again.
"Evolution's a theory"...
I kill people who say this.
 

Faladorian

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ClockworkPenguin said:
Also, the entirety of this video.
So... much... rage...

SOMEBODY KILL HER! NOW! KILL HER!!!


I have hardly seen more backwards logic in my life...

"The universe is bigger than you, therefor the mass in E=MC^2 is irrelevant. So therefor energy equals the speed of light!"

Oh my fucking god...

"God in his infinite wisdom gave us Steven Hawkingzzz"

"God in his infinite wisdom"

"God"


Well there's your problem right there...
 

Johnny Impact

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FuhrerVonZephyr said:
"Evolution is just your opinion"

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Oh boy, tell me about it. I actually explained to a guy (in slow, easy steps, of course) how natural selection works. His reply was that God made the world perfect, therefore God steps in all the time to stop the process of natural selection. There are some folks who just can't be helped.

1) One of my big ones is photo enhancement as shown on TV. I've done photo enhancement. You can do a lot but you cannot extract detail that is not present in the image. Characters on procedural shows are routinely depicted extracting mugshot-quality portraits from images so grainy and indistinct you can barely tell they are of people. I even saw one episode where they digitally turned a guy's head so they could see his face! His back was to the camera, meaning no image could have been captured in any way, but they got a picture of sufficient quality to issue a warrant!

To a lesser extent, all TV science bugs me: people surviving explosions by leaping away, computer hacking depicted as if it were a video game, adding the word DNA to make things sound complicated, explosions made of slowly rolling blobs of fire, that sort of thing.

2) The idea that science and religion are mutually exclusive and diametrically opposed, like it's a boxing match and only one of them can leave the ring with the title.

Science is about rational facts. Religion is about irrational truth. They've got little if anything to do with each other. Science isn't out to kill God. Science doesn't care whether people believe or not. Religion cannot destroy science because it's awful hard to deny the viability of a system that has proven itself by giving us electricity, cars, jumbo jets, and cable TV.

People like to point to cell phones, modern medicine, and other inventions as representing the triumph of science. Yet the majority of people still believe in a supreme being. The church I drive past every morning on my way to work is packed to capacity on Sundays. Continuing the sports analogy, it's more like science is boxing and religion is, I dunno, water polo or something. There's simply no way they could ever interfere with each other.

3) People who don't know basic units of measurement, e.g. how many pints are in a gallon, bug the shit out of me. I would advocate going metric as a solution, but how could people ever be made to understand another system when they can't handle the system they were raised on?

4) People who can't do simple math. These folks need to die. There is no excuse, none, for not being able to figure out how many times 17 goes into 4913. I have worked around people who could not do basic addition and subtraction. I learned that shit in the first grade and built on it almost daily for the next twelve years. Where was everyone else??
 

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It's really annoying to hear people say that it's impossible to divide by zero.
It's entirely possible, it just opens up rifts in the space-time--similar to black holes. Some astronomers and scientists hypothesize that many of the universes black holes are the result of alien civilizations mass acceptance of the possibility of division by zero.
 

kortin

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triggrhappy94 said:
It's really annoying to hear people say that it's impossible to divide by zero.
It's entirely possible, it just opens up rifts in the space-time--similar to black holes. Some astronomers and scientists hypothesize that many of the universes black holes are the result of alien civilizations mass acceptance of the possibility of division by zero.
You want us all to be crushed to death then. Fucking hell, we've spent too much time covering this up to let some random blabbermouth on the internet spout it out.

I'm sorry sir, but we're going to have to remove you from time.
 

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Johnny Impact said:
FuhrerVonZephyr said:
"Evolution is just your opinion"

>.<
3) People who don't know basic units of measurement, e.g. how many pints are in a gallon, bug the shit out of me. I would advocate going metric as a solution, but how could people ever be made to understand another system when they can't handle the system they were raised on?

4) People who can't do simple math. These folks need to die. There is no excuse, none, for not being able to figure out how many times 17 goes into 4913. I have worked around people who could not do basic addition and subtraction. I learned that shit in the first grade and built on it almost daily for the next twelve years. Where was everyone else??
a few points in the last 2, 1st long live the metric system its so easy to use just add or take away 0.
on the other one, really 17 in 4913? i understand if you complain about people not knowing the
1 to 9 tables, or what e and pi means, but really? 17 in 4913? really? i mean really?

McMullen said:
Often when I ride the bus I hear someone giving a lecture to someone else on some sciencey topic, and half the stuff said is complete garbage. I've listened to lectures on how it's cold in winter because the Earth is farther from the Sun, how scientists demoted Pluto without any reason ("Who does that guy think he is anyway?!"), how anything with chemicals in it will give you cancer, and so on.
well yeah. when you are in winter the earth where you standing right now is father away from the sun, not the whole earth but that point it is.

on topic:
people ignoring LAWS of physics(even when you shove the evidence to their faces) and saying the EVIIIIIRUUUUUUUUU goverment and the multinational corporations are holding back (or making) weapons or technologies (that VIOLATES the laws of physics and there isnt any blueprints of how they work (and lo and behold the inventors never explained how it worked, nor did they sell it)) just because they saw it on youtube
in short what most pisses me of is people IGNORING FACTS, you cant have all the info and there for you drawn wrong conclusion but when they show you all the info STOP FRIGGING DENYING IT.


also: 4913/17? really?
 

RustlessPotato

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Being a Biomedical sciences student the thing that grinds me the most are insane "diet" claims by nutritionists. Gillian McKeith with her "eat loads of green plants, the chlorophyll in the plants will oxygenate your blood through photosynthesis ". >< My brother, though not stupid, sometimes falls for the tricks, but then I have to explain to him why he's wrong and he usually trusts me.

I saw a commercial about a special shampoo (I think it was Panthene) with "special keratin amino acid ! ". Oh Really ? And what exactly IS a "special keratin Amino Acid ?". IT IS A PROTEIN DAMNED, NOT AN AMINO ACID !

A poster on the escapist told me about a cream for the face that was "reinforced with Deoxyribonucleic Acid ". Because slapping DNA on your skin will repair that DNA. Now we can live for ever, fuck you, telomeres ! Do you want to have wings ? Here, just put on some bird wing DNA on your shoulders !

What astonishes me is that they're allowed to lie like that.

And that Homeopathic lady posted earlier was simply amazing. Mentioning Einstein makes your claims 75% smarter.
 

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Zantos said:
Gambler's fallacy is one that annoys me quite a bit. We like to call it Role-player's fallacy actually, after those times when you're convinced the universe owes you a natural twenty after an hour of nothing higher than a four, even though you know low rolls are random and owe you nothing.
Oh dear lord, do my gamers ever pull this. It's amazing how quickly they can turn from rational scientific minds to promoters of ritual superstition.
 
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Zachary Amaranth said:
Zantos said:
Gambler's fallacy is one that annoys me quite a bit. We like to call it Role-player's fallacy actually, after those times when you're convinced the universe owes you a natural twenty after an hour of nothing higher than a four, even though you know low rolls are random and owe you nothing.
Oh dear lord, do my gamers ever pull this. It's amazing how quickly they can turn from rational scientific minds to promoters of ritual superstition.
It's complete ridiculous poppycock.

However, keeping your D20s 20 side up so that the weight will slowly shift to the lower side of the die is a completely understandable and logical habit. I will not hear any dismissals of my logic.

OT: People equating energy(science) to energy(woo). The amount of pseudoscience that has been with that is painful to see.
 

Vault101

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Johnny Impact said:
3) People who don't know basic units of measurement, e.g. how many pints are in a gallon, bug the shit out of me. I would advocate going metric as a solution, but how could people ever be made to understand another system when they can't handle the system they were raised on?
because the metric systm is based on a [i/]systm[/i] rather than seemingly randomness,which makes it easyer to understand. I can't wrap my head around "how many pints are in a gaollon" becase...well how the fuck do I work that out without google?

[quote/]4) People who can't do simple math. These folks need to die. There is no excuse, none, for not being able to figure out how many times 17 goes into 4913. I have worked around people who could not do basic addition and subtraction. I learned that shit in the first grade and built on it almost daily for the next twelve years. Where was everyone else??[/quote]
why?...I probably couldnt work that out off the top of my head....

a little extreme anyhow
 

Vault101

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RustlessPotato said:
Being a Biomedical sciences student the thing that grinds me the most are insane "diet" claims by nutritionists. Gillian McKeith with her "eat loads of green plants, the chlorophyll in the plants will oxygenate your blood through photosynthesis ".
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WHO THE FUCK SAID THAT!?

I'm a highschool drop out (well technically in a way) and even I know that is not how photosynthasis works....what the fuck?
 

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1) The strong anthropic principle.
<quote=Douglas Adams>Imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, "This is an interesting world I find myself in - an interesting hole I find myself in - fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!" (...)

2) The notion that the second law of thermodynamics somehow conflicts with evolution. It only shows that the person stating said argument is misinterpreting both thermodynamics and evolution. They are also unable to define order and entropy properly. I usually point out what happens when you try to mix oil and water and then ask them how the seemingly perceived increase in order is even possible according to their simplistic definitions.

3) People confusing abiogenesis with evolution.
 

RustlessPotato

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Vault101 said:
RustlessPotato said:
Being a Biomedical sciences student the thing that grinds me the most are insane "diet" claims by nutritionists. Gillian McKeith with her "eat loads of green plants, the chlorophyll in the plants will oxygenate your blood through photosynthesis ".
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WHO THE FUCK SAID THAT!?

I'm a highschool drop out (well technically in a way) and even I know that is not how photosynthasis works....what the fuck?
Well, my dear Vault, that person would be Gillian McKeith. She has a U.K based "diet show". Check her out. :p
 

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Dunno if this counts, but people who claim that any research involving genes or dna is evil because "giving girrafes trunks would be an insult to God" or something. Genes are NOT blueprints. You can't just take the genes for a fish's gills and stick them in a tiger, and get a tiger that breathes under water.

It doesn't work like that.
 

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lotr rocks 0 said:
Didn't Einstein have an equation about that? lol :p

That MUST be relevant to weight gain!
Yes, I tend to find that I put on weight when the Fission reaction inside my body slows down but I don't cut back on my calories. :D
 

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As a statistician, I want to stab anyone and everyone that uses the phrase "law of averages" without being ironic.