Secret of Evermore

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RaikuFA

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Has anyone else played this? This is one of those games I love yet it's one no one ever brings up in underrated SNES games discussions. It was made by Square's American branch and was their first and last. It was pretty much an American take on the Mana series. It's not the greatest but I still get an enjoyment out of the game.

The story revolves around a B-Movie loving boy and his dog who get zapped into a world called Evermore. Instead of MP to cast spells you had to have the ingredients to cast alchemy spells. Spells you could only get from NPC's.

Main reason I got back into it? I found out the composer is Jeremy Soule and it was his first big game. The same one who did Skyrim. So he started with this (which I still get stuck in my head)


To this:


So does anyone else know this game? Or will I be the only one and hopefully get some people to play this?
 

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I played this about 15-20 years ago. It was very grindy game, but it was definitely unique thanks to the alchemy system. Still, I wasn't a fan of how you had to level every weapon and alchemy to make it useful, especially when using alchemy required you to go farming for alchemy ingredients. Still, I may have been a little too grind-happy last time I played it. Perhaps a less grind-intensive playthrough is in order.
 

RaikuFA

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sageoftruth said:
I played this about 15-20 years ago. It was very grindy game, but it was definitely unique thanks to the alchemy system. Still, I wasn't a fan of how you had to level every weapon and alchemy to make it useful, especially when using alchemy required you to go farming for alchemy ingredients. Still, I may have been a little too grind-happy last time I played it. Perhaps a less grind-intensive playthrough is in order.
Just grind to max out crush and you're set for the game.
 

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RaikuFA said:
sageoftruth said:
I played this about 15-20 years ago. It was very grindy game, but it was definitely unique thanks to the alchemy system. Still, I wasn't a fan of how you had to level every weapon and alchemy to make it useful, especially when using alchemy required you to go farming for alchemy ingredients. Still, I may have been a little too grind-happy last time I played it. Perhaps a less grind-intensive playthrough is in order.
Just grind to max out crush and you're set for the game.
Will I be able to maintain my limestone supply once I leave the second world?
 

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I played this many many years ago and I didn't get on with it at all. Maybe I was a bit young to understand the gameplay as I think it may have been my first JRPG. I didn't know about having to grind or anything back then and found it really hard. I used a cheat code or something to get to the last boss who was really easy to kill and saw the ending and that was my experience with the game. I think if I played it these days, being older and more experienced of the JRPG games, I think I would probably like it. Unfortunately, I no longer have a SNES so that is out of the question.

I haven't thought about this game in years.
 

jademunky

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Played and finished it when I was a kid back in the 90's and loved it. Way better than Secret of Mana. Especially the fact that the Dog would change it's appearance depending on the era you found yourself in.
 

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I played this and finished it many years ago. I didn't like it all that much and vastly preferred Secret of Mana in pretty much every way. I did like the dog changing as you went though, it made for some funny moments in the last section of the game.
 

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I think I beat it, way back when. My memorys a little fuzzy.

I remember the magic being annoying. Having to grind up levels of magic and ingredients for magic (which included grinding ingredients so you could grind the levels on spells).

Evermore and Mana both had this sense that they were trying to avoid FF's spiral of magic spam. But Mana seemed to pull it off better by just having fixed uses between checkpoints, while Evermore just piled magic behind grind (in a way not entirely dissimilar to using magic in FF 8)
 

Lufia Erim

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Played it? I still own a copy of the game. Definitely a snes Gem. I still remember having trouble with the first boss and jumping for joy ehen i saw the death animation. Very fun game.
 

Nidor

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Quite possibly one of my favorite games of the SNES, and I still play it now and then. First heard of it from a cousin's old Nintendo Power magazine and was hooked from then on.

It is true that the game can be grindy, with the spell and weapon levels, but it had a unique style that even the Mana games it was based off of didn't quite match. I wasn't the type to grind out magic, and still found it perfectly serviceable, in fact often used it to interrupt attacks that would have hit me. I felt the alchemy system was rather clever, and it is a shame that there is so few games with similar mechanics.

Interesting to find out the Skyrim tie in tho.
 

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RaikuFA said:
Main reason I got back into it? I found out the composer is Jeremy Soule and it was his first big game. The same one who did Skyrim.
Nidor said:
Interesting to find out the Skyrim tie in tho.
Oh bother, he also did Morrowind and Oblivion but as usual people think the entire Elder Scrolls franchise is made up of one game, Skyrim. He did many other games too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Soule
 

RaikuFA

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WeepingAngels said:
RaikuFA said:
Main reason I got back into it? I found out the composer is Jeremy Soule and it was his first big game. The same one who did Skyrim.
Nidor said:
Interesting to find out the Skyrim tie in tho.
Oh bother, he also did Morrowind and Oblivion but as usual people think the entire Elder Scrolls franchise is made up of one game, Skyrim. He did many other games too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Soule
I know he did, but Skyrim's probably the most known. But I hum the songs from SoE more than ESV.
 

WeepingAngels

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RaikuFA said:
WeepingAngels said:
RaikuFA said:
Main reason I got back into it? I found out the composer is Jeremy Soule and it was his first big game. The same one who did Skyrim.
Nidor said:
Interesting to find out the Skyrim tie in tho.
Oh bother, he also did Morrowind and Oblivion but as usual people think the entire Elder Scrolls franchise is made up of one game, Skyrim. He did many other games too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Soule
I know he did, but Skyrim's probably the most known. But I hum the songs from SoE more than ESV.
Do you know why Skyrim is the most known? It's because people keep referencing it as if it's the only game in the franchise.
 

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Great game but I played it after seiken densetsu 3 so never got fully into it. Still, nice setting and some interesting character (fire eye was cool), like other said the alchemy system was quite annoying.

Cool to see the connection, I guess video game soundtrack is a small world so you have people working on different games (although you could argue evermore was an open world JRPG).

And now I miss square soft... : (
 

Nidor

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WeepingAngels said:
Do you know why Skyrim is the most known? It's because people keep referencing it as if it's the only game in the franchise.
I figured he referenced it due to it being the most recent one with the highest install base, making the point easier to come across to the widest audience. Not to mention I'm pretty sure it had more media coverage. Not the perceived snub at all of his other works by exclusion.

I also didn't know he did Icewind Dale, which was another game I used to play a lot of. It is a thread about Evermore nostalgia with a bit of trivia at the end, chill.
 

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I remember playing it on the "you-know-what". Not bad. It had mechanics very similar to Secret of Mana, but it was like a time travel story, instead of a fantasy world (and your dog had a different body depending on the time period, cool). I think I didn't beat the final boss though.

Still, similar to Final Fantasy Mystic Quest, it felt like an entry level RPG (but not as diluted as the later).
 

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I didn't play it but now I will try it. It's interesting to get to know the Jeremy Soule's first big game
 

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Nidor said:
No! Oh the hype surrounding Skyrim between it's E3 reveal and it's launch (before anyone had played it) was ridiculous and vomit inducing. People calling it the GOTY or the GOAT months before it even came out and people acting like this was the first game to ever have fuckin' dragons. It's been over 5 years now, it's time to remember that there were other and better ES games before Skyrim.
 

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I've played that game. I remember being stuck on the swamp monster boss for ages. It was a great game though. I consider it an example of the good things that Square used to be capable of once upon a time.
 

RaikuFA

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Canadamus Prime said:
I've played that game. I remember being stuck on the swamp monster boss for ages. It was a great game though. I consider it an example of the good things that Square used to be capable of once upon a time.
Dear God do I hate the swamp boss.