Sega planning New Console?

[ZippyDSMlee]

Hell Build a portable unit that uses the console as a base unit to access your online account and games from any wifi/lan point, when "pluged in" to the console it can connect to its hardware and play games on TV and sue the consoles peripherals.

Isn't that the Ps3?

In a sense refine the features and connectivity of the portable as so you can sale games directly to it, even have console games run features through it like menus and maps.

But the connectivity the PSP has with the PS3 is somewhat limited in scope.

This would be a bit more like the VC on the DS with more PSP media and control features.
One could sale the console with the portable in limited amounts at a 20-50% price reductions to drive software sales.


Though IMO its more important to how you deal with the software the main console games, focus their starting release on your console, then release the port months later with a final refined version with etras from the ports and more polish work in it after that.

Of coarse with DLC you might not need to release it on disc but the point is you do more than release a game and forget about it.

Nintendo already did the handheld-to-console capability for maps and other stuff. Does no one else remember the GBA-GC link cable? I remember using it for Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles.

Also, it failed.
It's not a very good concept.

Just because something is under utilized dose not mean it failed, not to mention most of the games required you to buy a portable game to get anything from it, there are licensing issues in using such things as well, they need to open up the process a bit more.

This would be a feature that can be run from the game in the consul to the empty handheld, you can check the menu to change stuff or the map in the game or you have a map and quick menu on the hand held, and if you build the handheld with dual analog nubs and the right number of buttons you can play the game on the handheld and have the map and such show on the heldhand while the game itself is on the TV screen.

MP shooters and racing games of all kinds could have a rear view mirrors or a 3rd person view in the handheld, there is so much that could be done and made useful.

 

[iamnotincompliance]

Many still show their fanaticism for Sega console and franchises past.

And just what do you mean by... oh, wait [ looks left ] touche.

Okay, I confess, I still love my old sandwich-sized Genesis III, to the point I'm looking for new controllers due to mine having given up the ghost a while back, and even I think Sega's console days are behind it. Even if the market weren't neatly covered with Wii appealing to the average Joe*, the 360 for average Joe gamer*, and the PS3 for those who desire power no matter what the cost*, I simply don't see where Sega could hope to break in.

[EDIT] Meant to hit preview. More typing may follow.

Now where was I before I was so rudely interrupted by my own not paying attention? Oh, yes, that's not to say Sega can't break in with, say, a Wii-type box not beholden to gimmicky bullshit* or a PS3-like affair with the graphical horsepower to actually back up something like the Cell* (somehow, I envision the latter even though the former is more likely to succeed), but I still don't see what the point would be.

I'm pretty sure I still have a point, but frankly it's almost 5:30 in the morning and my brain's shot (as if that wasn't apparent). So if I ever figure out where the hell I was going with this, I'll be back.

*[sup]your stereotyped views on the current console generation may vary[/sup]

 

[asam92]

Now that people keep brining up the hand helds, maybe thats the direction Sega should go in?
However I think even then they will still fail miserably, but at least it is one less competitor. (unless microsoft is brining out XHand or sumtin (sorry about that couldt think of a good name))

 

[thebigtw]

How many more times does Sega need to categorically state that they will never make another home console before these threads stop popping up all over the internet like venereal sores?

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

Now that people keep brining up the hand helds, maybe thats the direction Sega should go in?
However I think even then they will still fail miserably, but at least it is one less competitor. (unless microsoft is brining out XHand or sumtin (sorry about that couldt think of a good name))

That's what I was thinking, I mean they have games of all kinds why not build a good handheld that's somewhere in between the DS and PSP. Offer a ton of DLC for it and retail games, its all win, that is if they can market it.
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Its nto so much Sega fanisim, Sega could be a solid console brand, you have people who are unsatisfied with the PS3(costs to much) and 360(limited variety) and WII(non gamer focus) I mean if its not for the market collapse now would be the prefect time to do it.

If Sega focused on a game console like the 360 in terms of coding but like the PC in terms of browsing and "free" content it could well do well. The DLC will have standard DRM on it and music and video services would be more streaming based than locked DRM DLC but the point is make a system that can create a solid revenue stream while making it easier for devs to release stuff on it to make the games more unique(IE player made content is easier to get and share, patches don't have to be handed out through the DLC system,ect,ect).

 

[Theo Samaritan]

Sorry to say it to the OP, but considering the current news, you have a lot of wishful thinking.

Sega Losing Money, Closing Arcades, Cutting Jobs [http://kotaku.com/5150328/sega-losing-money-closing-arcades-cutting-jobs]

 

[Puppeteer Putin]

Sorry to say it to the OP, but considering the current news, you have a lot of wishful thinking.

Sega Losing Money, Closing Arcades, Cutting Jobs [http://kotaku.com/5150328/sega-losing-money-closing-arcades-cutting-jobs]

Yeah, I just saw. But the losses have decreased by a couple million... still, deficit two years running? That can't lead to good things.

Sega has made arcade hardware for a long time now
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Titan_Video#Sega_ST-V

I thought so. But they haven't been developing any new machines for a couple of years. It may well be an arcade machine, it's simple speculation.

 

[Reaperman Wompa]

They should have been more obvious and trademarked the name: Dreamcaster. Different but still good, and brings back the love for the original.

 

[DigitalSushi]

Oh yes, after such victories as the Dreamcast, Sega CD and 32X, not to mention the established longevity of Sonic the Hedgehog, I'm sure Sega is primed to make a comeback and claw away at the Holy Trinity of current gen consoles.

There isn't a way to appropriately express my level of sarcasm so I've just typed it. Seriously, they're going to try this? I'm not going to stand in their way, but the only decent thing Sega's released in the last decade was Condemned: Criminal Origins, and they screwed the pooch on that with the sequel's absurd plot. This has "commercial disappointment" written all over it.

Dont underestimate Sega, they are ahead of the curve, the Model 3 board had high def graphics in the 90's, the Saturn could use RAM to fast load like the Xbox did with its hard drive, the DreamCast had a built in modem, 5 years ahead of time!

The problem is that they haven't got Microsofts or Sony marketing's savvy.

 

[Puppeteer Putin]

Now that people keep brining up the hand helds, maybe thats the direction Sega should go in?
However I think even then they will still fail miserably, but at least it is one less competitor. (unless microsoft is brining out XHand or sumtin (sorry about that couldt think of a good name))

That's what I was thinking, I mean they have games of all kinds why not build a good handheld that's somewhere in between the DS and PSP. Offer a ton of DLC for it and retail games, its all win, that is if they can market it.
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Its nto so much Sega fanisim, Sega could be a solid console brand, you have people who are unsatisfied with the PS3(costs to much) and 360(limited variety) and WII(non gamer focus) I mean if its not for the market collapse now would be the prefect time to do it.

If Sega focused on a game console like the 360 in terms of coding but like the PC in terms of browsing and "free" content it could well do well. The DLC will have standard DRM on it and music and video services would be more streaming based than locked DRM DLC but the point is make a system that can create a solid revenue stream while making it easier for devs to release stuff on it to make the games more unique(IE player made content is easier to get and share, patches don't have to be handed out through the DLC system,ect,ect).

Quite right. They could nail next generation what LIVE and HOME established this generation. It would all depend on functionality, compatibility and ultimately how popular the home entertainment/ media system is when the next generation rocks about. Over 33% of US households have HDTV's so the expectations are shifting.

I would like to see another handheld. Nintendo really didn't have any competition until the PSP, and that isn't selling anywhere near as many DS's. I think both companies need more motivation to go above and beyond.

 

[yourbeliefs]

I think Sega is more than content (or as content as they're going to be) with just making games at this point. Making a new console requires years of research, development, testing, marketing, etc etc. I think the market is fine with 3 consoles at this point. I don't see much benefit to another console hitting the fray.

 

[WolfLordAndy]

They mention inbuilt screens... they could be trying another go at the handheld or traveling consul market?

Game Gear was a Pretty nice machine, maybe they're trying to break into the DS/PSP market share!

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

Having never been a sega fan, I don't know what to make of this. Multi-platform releases are already common place and at this stage the only exclusives they are likely to get would come from their own development houses, and it's been ages since Sega has made a game I care about. It seems like they would simply be muddying the waters with yet another "must have" console that probably would add very little to the market.

On the other hand, Sega might find some amazing niche to fill and in that case I would support the move.

 

[puppybeard]

Who could forget The House.....Of The Dead? Best rail shooter ever made.

They made a game of the film?

As for the possibility of gaining a foothold in the console market, I don't know. How would you make a dent in the current market? Nintendo pulled it out of the bag with the Wii, so maybe they're hoping to make a similar departure, with a new level of interactivity.

We could try de-constructing the two registered names for a hint. Ringedge. Ringwide. Ring. Wide. Edge.
It's going to be a console that leaves you looking like the man from goatse.

 

[jebussaves88]

I think it'd be great to see Sega make a comeback, but I think it's worth noting that any console put out by them is more likely to be Wii-like then a technology pusher. Still, I always thought Sega's range of games was more diverse and interesting than many of Nintendo's. Virtua Fighter, Virtua Cop, Sega Rally, Panzer Dragoon, Jet Set Radio, Condemned, Daytona USA etc. They'd still need the support of the third parties though, which may be hard after they pissed them all of with the surprise Saturn launch.

 

[curlycrouton]

Who could forget The House.....Of The Dead? Best rail shooter ever made.

They made a game of the film?

Spoiler: Oh Dear Lord

Please, please, please tell me you were being sarcastic.

 

[Spacelord]

No, no, NO.

I had my heart broken once with the epic failure that was Dreamcast, I won't let you get my hopes up again!!! ;.(...

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

Now that people keep brining up the hand helds, maybe thats the direction Sega should go in?
However I think even then they will still fail miserably, but at least it is one less competitor. (unless microsoft is brining out XHand or sumtin (sorry about that couldt think of a good name))

That's what I was thinking, I mean they have games of all kinds why not build a good handheld that's somewhere in between the DS and PSP. Offer a ton of DLC for it and retail games, its all win, that is if they can market it.
====================
Its nto so much Sega fanisim, Sega could be a solid console brand, you have people who are unsatisfied with the PS3(costs to much) and 360(limited variety) and WII(non gamer focus) I mean if its not for the market collapse now would be the prefect time to do it.

If Sega focused on a game console like the 360 in terms of coding but like the PC in terms of browsing and "free" content it could well do well. The DLC will have standard DRM on it and music and video services would be more streaming based than locked DRM DLC but the point is make a system that can create a solid revenue stream while making it easier for devs to release stuff on it to make the games more unique(IE player made content is easier to get and share, patches don't have to be handed out through the DLC system,ect,ect).

Quite right. They could nail next generation what LIVE and HOME established this generation. It would all depend on functionality, compatibility and ultimately how popular the home entertainment/ media system is when the next generation rocks about. Over 33% of US households have HDTV's so the expectations are shifting.

I would like to see another handheld. Nintendo really didn't have any competition until the PSP, and that isn't selling anywhere near as many DS's. I think both companies need more motivation to go above and beyond.

Now here is a more interesting idea, make a handheld that's WII like in graphics perhaps a level or 2 below it, then make a base unit that plug into the TV and offers more space for saves,media and games and preherpails.

One could go with a motion sensing setup as well as traditional pad,off a decent keyboard as well.One is for simple fun odd games, one is for normal games the other for MMOs and FPSs.

would also be nice to be able to trade,download and reconfigure control layout and sensitivity.

If you give points for game scores (perhaps 10K-1 point or 0.1 cent) then offer such lil tweaks for 5-10 cents a shot. Any money revenue is good revenue.