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I despise those Truth ads. They've just gotten worse and worse. The ones with that dorky looking guy with the big glasses were the worst.
Well, the shock-and-awe truth ads of smoking may be getting to some (including myself), but I have to say that there's no lack of truth in the same type of ads about Railroad safety, or making way in traffic for Emergency Services.
It makes me very annoyed when people neglect the fact that flashing lights and loud noises mean that they're trying save lives, not slow you down for umpteen 5 seconds.
It makes me very annoyed when people neglect the fact that flashing lights and loud noises mean that they're trying save lives, not slow you down for umpteen 5 seconds.
we get it. Don't smoke. But shut up already you're quoting big tobacco execs from he 60's and 80's, they're probably dead already and what the fuck is with those singing cartoons?
Seeing how I have severe Asthma; I feel that I have a special right to be pissy at smokers. Ya' know, punch them if I'm stuck in a line in front of them (if they won't put the damn thing out). But this is a SPECIAL privilege. Bitches don't be getting my privilege. Especially bitches who act like bitches.
I do not smoke. My mother, however, does, and being a woman of the North-East of England (read: formidable/impressive/utterly terrifying when angered.) she will regularly vent her rage upon any individual, organisation or group that attempts to curtail her pleasure.
Personally, having tried the damn things I've come to the conclusion that the old bat's a bit insane, but since she's my mother she could exterminate the entire population of the Middle east and I wouldn't bat an eyelid. (I might applaud though- stop all those damn terror attacks).
What I don't get is why smoking in public is banned. Second hand smoke does not kill . When you can provide any real evidence it does, I will most likely take it onboard by dropping the tax on cigarettes by half, so to curtail the population problems. But that's another story. Banning smoking in bars, resteraunts and pubs was as pitiful a manuevere by the goverment as banning the drinking of alcohol. Yes, there is no need for people to drink, and it damages their health (and frequently that of others around them) but quite frankly, it clearly aids the darwinnian preassures of society by weeding out members of the population, and more to the point, needlessly curtails the pleasures and liberties of a section of the population in favour of another, because they are whiny bitches.
Personally, having tried the damn things I've come to the conclusion that the old bat's a bit insane, but since she's my mother she could exterminate the entire population of the Middle east and I wouldn't bat an eyelid. (I might applaud though- stop all those damn terror attacks).
What I don't get is why smoking in public is banned. Second hand smoke does not kill . When you can provide any real evidence it does, I will most likely take it onboard by dropping the tax on cigarettes by half, so to curtail the population problems. But that's another story. Banning smoking in bars, resteraunts and pubs was as pitiful a manuevere by the goverment as banning the drinking of alcohol. Yes, there is no need for people to drink, and it damages their health (and frequently that of others around them) but quite frankly, it clearly aids the darwinnian preassures of society by weeding out members of the population, and more to the point, needlessly curtails the pleasures and liberties of a section of the population in favour of another, because they are whiny bitches.
I suppose it's like that knock off Nigel advert, makes everything sound funny, almost makes it fun to pirate*. Here it is BTW---> http://youtube.com/watch?v=GlhdK5Yl8u0
*It was just a joke I do not actually pirate, for the love of god don't ban me again!
EDIT: What is so good about smoking, I dont, and do not intend to, what is the big deal about smoking, please explain to me.
*It was just a joke I do not actually pirate, for the love of god don't ban me again!
EDIT: What is so good about smoking, I dont, and do not intend to, what is the big deal about smoking, please explain to me.
Speaking as someone who used to smoke, and dear god don't take this the wrong way, but responses like this used to piss me off to no end when I did smoke.Spleeni said:
If I was around people/friends who didn't smoke, I would move off to the side so my smoking wouldn't bother them. Hell my husband doesn't smoke and when I still did smoke, I used to go outside MY OWN home to smoke so it wouldn't both him.
My point is there are a lot of us that are/were very polite when we smoked around others. However if I was in a public place which allowed smoking and someone decided to be a giant douche about it...well then I turned into a royal *****.
Of course I have met the asshole smokers too...they're just as bad as the extreme non-smoker...
To Fondont - Amen...
As with almost anything. Make me the Emperor of the World, and all will be better.
Seriously though... I am against smoking. I hate it. I hate the smell. I hate the fact that most places I go to are dirtier due to smokers, and I have burn holes in my furniture and one of my favorite jackets even though I don't smoke because EVERY smoker at one point in time will burn SOMETHING. (reply as you will, but I have not met a single one who has not.) My father died of lung cancer, my mother is on her way to it, and my fiance smokes like a chimney too.
That said, I totally back up Big Tobacco in their drive to be rich. Also, I totally back up all of our rights to choose to smoke (sorry California). I hate it but a whole lot of people don't. That's as it should be.
Those ads annoy me too, but only because I hate people that tell us what we should and shouldn't do.
Seriously though... I am against smoking. I hate it. I hate the smell. I hate the fact that most places I go to are dirtier due to smokers, and I have burn holes in my furniture and one of my favorite jackets even though I don't smoke because EVERY smoker at one point in time will burn SOMETHING. (reply as you will, but I have not met a single one who has not.) My father died of lung cancer, my mother is on her way to it, and my fiance smokes like a chimney too.
That said, I totally back up Big Tobacco in their drive to be rich. Also, I totally back up all of our rights to choose to smoke (sorry California). I hate it but a whole lot of people don't. That's as it should be.
Those ads annoy me too, but only because I hate people that tell us what we should and shouldn't do.
Hit the nail on the head. And you know, it is someone's right to throw thier health away and smoke, because I'm pretty sure that everyone one with half a brain knows that smoking is very bad for you. However, your bad health and second hand smoke does effect me. If you lived a healthier life (no smokeing) insurance rates wouldn't be so damn high and our heal care system wouldn't be bogged down with idots intentionally poisoning themselves.HuCast said:
And yes, the tobacco companies to have a measure of responsibility. Unlike McDonalds or pot, nicotine is one of the most addictive drugs on the planet. Meth is uber adictive and life threatening, nicotine just happens to be legal. Big tobacco is no different from a mech dealer.
Im a smoker and i know damn well when im in the hospital with lung cancer i'll have no one to blame but myself
It used to be: 'Don't smoke, it's not good for your health!'thedrop2zer0 said:
Now apparantly the message degenerated into: 'Don't smoke. Boo! Ha ha! Gotcha! Aren't I awesome? But don't smoke, oh no!'
There's a good reason they don't just outright ban smoking when so many people are decrying how horrible it seems. American government makes a lot of money on tobacco taxes, and they've found it's a lot easier to raise taxes on something that is regularly demonized, giving people the impression that they're trying to curb it.
There is always the bill hicks way of responding.....Haliwali said:
"Wow thats a really bad cough youve got there, your lucky you dont smoke, I smoke loads and I dont cough half as much as that."
The problem is that smokers who light up in crowded places have decided that anyone within a 10 foot radius of them is also a smoker, they're taking away my choice not to be a smoker. They should be forced to move, not me, I didn't make the choice to smoke, nether did, for example, my girlfriend standing next to me.Haliwali said:
Basically, you wanna destroy your lungs, fine. I already have asthma, don't destroy mine anymore, I shouldn't have to ask, you shouldn't be making my choice for me, go smoke away from people if you must, then it's just between you and your cigarette. Similarly, if you smoke near your children, you've made their choice for them as well, taking away their right to make the decision themselves.
It's a multifacited issue.
I don't smoke, but my closest friends do, and they're actually proud that I don't. I even have my own lighter for when they inevitably lose theirs (I have a fondness for irony). And I just wanna say that these Truth people deserve a punch in their manginas. It's just about the worst kind of self-righteous douchebaggery I can think of these days, up there with vegetarians who look down on you and your ribeye steak. You'd think that "Smoking wrecks your health" would be a strong enough message, but no, they feel the need to scrutinize old quotes from tobacco companies, turn a blind eye to context, and warp Big Tobacco into some kind of Legion of Doom. Who the hell do they think they are?
Freakin' solipsists.
Freakin' solipsists.
Well, uhm, their sole purpose is to sell and making profit from an addictive and harmful product ... i know personal choice and so forth, all fine and dandy, but i side with the maîtres du soupçon on this one, free will has its boundaries (or there is no true free will at all, could be) and i think that chemical substances in your bloodstream that makes your body dependant on these chemicals to function properly is one of them.Eiseman said:
Oh, i stopped smoking five weeks ago, my packets of Gauloises said "Liberté Toujours"
, the irony...
Smoking should not be outlawed. If a person wants to smoke and cut their lives short so be it. As long as their by themselves and harm no one else and I mean NO one else, not their kids, their parents or the stranger on the street and not the insurance company. Huh? The insurance company? What do you mean?
What I mean is that smoking is a self-destructive habit. You're making the decision to fill your body with 3000+ chemicals everyday. We don't even the full sideffects of them all are yet. So if your willingly doing this why should the insurance companies and by extension everybody else be forced to front the bill for all the bullshit that smoking does to your body? The only way I support smoking is that they do alone or in an establishment that caters to them and they don't seek medical insurance for any illnesses that come from it.
What I mean is that smoking is a self-destructive habit. You're making the decision to fill your body with 3000+ chemicals everyday. We don't even the full sideffects of them all are yet. So if your willingly doing this why should the insurance companies and by extension everybody else be forced to front the bill for all the bullshit that smoking does to your body? The only way I support smoking is that they do alone or in an establishment that caters to them and they don't seek medical insurance for any illnesses that come from it.