Serial Killer Round 68: - Cylon Invasion - Cycle 9 - Game Over! The Killer has Won!

[DoPo]

Hello, peeps. I'm here to make a small announcement: I am not the Killer.

I've seen few people mention they suspect me and these suspicion have not been helped by me not posting a lot lately. Actually, it seems the suspicions are because I've not been posting a lot lately. But as I mentioned previously, it's real life that interferes with stuff right now, hence my lack of posting.

However, since I'm not really helping anyone by being busy[footnote]at least, you know, not people in this game[/footnote], I've decided to finally help out - I'll exit this Round. It's a shame since it's actually quite thrilling this one, but this reduces the number of suspects, at least.

I'll still be monitoring this game and I will probably join next Round, assuming it doesn't start, like, tomorrow or something. In week or two, I should have more available time.

Peace.

(I did actually wrote this message this morning but I stupidly forgot to hit "Post", so I did it now after coming back home)

 

[Demagogue]

@DoPo: I was wondering what happened with that, heh.

I've added you to my list of people to contact for next round (there are a couple who were a little late to join this one) so I'll shoot you a PM when we finish as well to let you know.

 

[Armadox]

Moral of the story: [user]Armadox[/user] is always evil in the SK universe. Now I regret not voting for him- but the Trickster took my vote and made it happen anyhow sooooo ... it's like I 'did' vote for him? Logic I guess lol.

@DoPo: Hey man, if things are rough, you're always free to talk to me via PM. I'm here to listen.

I am not! I am whatever I said I was... As neutral I didn't ask a question.. just.. talked to people. It's not my fault some of the people ended up on the wrong side of dead. It's your fault if anything, not dying when you should have.. Then again.. what lawyer worth his salt doesn't argue with the killer?

 

[Demagogue]

Moral of the story: [user]Armadox[/user] is always evil in the SK universe. Now I regret not voting for him- but the Trickster took my vote and made it happen anyhow sooooo ... it's like I 'did' vote for him? Logic I guess lol.

I'm sad because we missed the opportunity of Armadox voting for you, and the trickster taking his vote to help kill him with. I think I would have revealed that vote karma had it happened... even though I technically shouldn't.

 

[Armadox]

Moral of the story: [user]Armadox[/user] is always evil in the SK universe. Now I regret not voting for him- but the Trickster took my vote and made it happen anyhow sooooo ... it's like I 'did' vote for him? Logic I guess lol.

I'm sad because we missed the opportunity of Armadox voting for you, and the trickster taking his vote to help kill him with. I think I would have revealed that vote karma had it happened... even though I technically shouldn't.

Really need to stop voting for myself..

 

[Aerosteam]

Moral of the story: [user]Armadox[/user] is always evil in the SK universe. Now I regret not voting for him- but the Trickster took my vote and made it happen anyhow sooooo ... it's like I 'did' vote for him? Logic I guess lol.

I'm sad because we missed the opportunity of Armadox voting for you, and the trickster taking his vote to help kill him with.

Is that confirmation that Caramel is not the Killer? I think it is!

 

[Demagogue]

Moral of the story: [user]Armadox[/user] is always evil in the SK universe. Now I regret not voting for him- but the Trickster took my vote and made it happen anyhow sooooo ... it's like I 'did' vote for him? Logic I guess lol.

I'm sad because we missed the opportunity of Armadox voting for you, and the trickster taking his vote to help kill him with.

Is that confirmation that Caramel is not the Killer? I think it is!

Or that Caramel is the killer and thus Armadox couldn't vote for him because of the rules. Either is plausible.

Don't be reading into what I'm saying Aero

 

[Aerosteam]

@Dema: I'm always going to be inclined to believing the things you say are mistakes more than anything.

 

[Demagogue]

@Dema: I'm always going to be inclined to believing the things you say are mistakes more than anything.

That's not very nice... D:

 

[DoPo]

@DoPo: Hey man, if things are rough, you're always free to talk to me via PM. I'm here to listen.

No worries - I'm just busy at work and I don't have as much free time after right now.

 

[FPLOON]

@Scars Unseen: What I find interesting about the list that had "people" not mentioned by Armadox in terms of [having any] guilt is that, with the exception of Dr. Crawver, they have all been featured in round(s) that had Armadox in it... In terms of the other list, if we are to believe that Aerosteam, BeerTent, and Caramel Frappe are the least likely to be the Killer, then that still leaves Pseudonym, Fractral, and myself (FPLOON) as potential candidates for wanting to hire Armadox as the Lawyer if any of us were the Killer... Then again, who would want a Lawyer who would use you [the Killer] as a pseudo-red herring?

With that said, despite not actually being the Killer, what Armadox said to me <link=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/jump/362.877540.22108190>here makes me feel like he probably used his Lawyer power to see if I was hiding anything... I don't know why, though...

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

@Aerosteam: Haha if I was the Killer- the irony in what happened to Armadox would be too strong. So it's come to truth though, that the Trickster is a chaotic figure this Round. Wants the good to fail, bad to fail .. . all to burn I suppose. Glad he did help us get the Lawyer when all hope seemed lost.

Maybe he / she did this because eventually the Killer would murder the Trickster, and the Trickster can't have that happening.

Except the Trickster didn't really help get the Lawyer, I mean, he could have voted for Armadox, which would understandably help, and he tried to use his power to remove a vote from you to him (which would indicate that the Trickster believed Armadox really was gunning for you as hard as he's been claiming he is all round), but no one voted for you, so the use of his power didn't work. Which is very strange if everything Armadox was saying all this time is true about how much he wants you dead. He even at one point specifically stated that if he was the Lawyer, he'd lie to the killer specifically to get you dead, and not only did he not do that, but he did not vote for you this cycle, which puts into question whether he actually voted for you for any cycle. I have to admit, it does make you seem rather suspect.

Huh. It us suspect that Armadox kept talking about how much he wanted Frappe dead but didn't even vote for him. I say vote for Caramel just because that is pretty suspicious.

But I'm glad we got one success at least!

 

[Scars Unseen]

I think the thing with Frappe is just kind of a big joke. Arma was the arbiter a couple rounds back. If he really wanted to take Frappe out, that's when he would have done it. And given that we are now on round 4 of 5, I really think we should put more thought into this than taking the lawyers word that he wanted to kill Frappe and taking his word that he never voted for him. That's putting a lot of trust in a guy who has been trying to kill everyone this round.

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

Huh. It us suspect that Armadox kept talking about how much he wanted Frappe dead but didn't even vote for him. I say vote for Caramel just because that is pretty suspicious.

But I'm glad we got one success at least!

@Seconhand Revenant: Yo, dude ... don't influence the peeps with their votes when you're dead.
I remember it being against the rules so none of that ok? You're going to get me killed despite you're a ghost lol.

Actually it said we can't provide evidence but can still keep talking. We can still chat and give suspicions. And I asked Demagogue in post 293 about that. He replied in 294. And the rules in the OP mention it as well.

 

[Scars Unseen]

@Zeconte: Almost every suspect is as suspicious or more as Frappe right now. Pretty much every piece of evidence you could level at Frappe depends on you taking the Lawyer at his word. And the biggest one - that he wants to kill Frappe but hasn't because of Frappe being the Killer - is easily refuted by the fact that Arma had a chance to kill Frappe a couple rounds ago as the Arbiter but passed it up. I submit that Amradox's desire to see Frappe dead in the game is not as strong as he claims.

My suspicion right now is that Pseudo is the Trickster. The only evidence I have for that is the heated accusations he was pointing at Aramdox just before the Trickster ability was activated to kill him. It's flimsy, but more than I have on anyone else.

As for the Killer... I would say that he's either someone that Arma never mentioned by name at all(see my second list) or someone that got mentioned, but never seriously accused or argued with. Browsing though my list above, that would give us:

Spoiler: Never Mentioned

Twintix
Headsprouter
snekadid
kingofkumquats
altnamejag
Dr. Crawver

Spoiler: Not Seriously Accused or Argued With

BeerTent(only agreed with a quoted accusation, and then spent multiple posts defending him)
FPLOON(semi-accused, but always in a joking manner and even a straight claim of "I voted for FPLOON")
Caramel Frappe(lots of joking, but never anything serious)

And here's my "least likely" list

Spoiler

Aerosteam(seriously accused)
Pseudonym(seriously argued with)
Fractal(accused when there were no standout suspects)
Zeconte(seriously accused)

Note that "least likely" doesn't mean "no evidence," else the names not mentioned at all would also be on it. Just when I compare the interactions between Arma and others in the game, they came out as being the least likely to be those between collaborators given that in this round any attention garnered has generally been bad.

 

[FPLOON]

and if you want to execute someone to see their death post- you're a bad person.[footnote]Says the guy who did vote for someone last Round to see their death post. I changed it of course, but that doesn't stop me from being a hypocrite.[/footnote]

But, that's been my tactic for many of SK rounds! Then again, that's usually before the Spy dies and/or gives up the 411...

But more seriously, at this point, the Killer can't kill Frappe due to keeping the suspicion on him in check by everyone else... Once Caramel drinks his last Frappe, then there goes yet another red herring in my opinion... At this point, all we can do now is choose between voting for someone who has[footnote]Caramel Frappe
Aerosteam
Fractral
FPLOON
BeerTent
Pseudonym
Zeconte[/footnote] or hasn't[footnote]Twintix
Headsprouter
snekadid
kingofkumquats
altnameJag
Dr. Crawver[/footnote] publicly "talked" with the Lawyer prior to his execution... We can make that decision once the next murder has been cast out... In the meantime, let's just hope the two rogues [in the from of the Arbiter and the Trickster] don't do anything that could fuck us up more than we are now...

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

@Zeconte: Almost every suspect is as suspicious or more as Frappe right now. Pretty much every piece of evidence you could level at Frappe depends on you taking the Lawyer at his word. And the biggest one - that he wants to kill Frappe but hasn't because of Frappe being the Killer - is easily refuted by the fact that Arma had a chance to kill Frappe a couple rounds ago as the Arbiter but passed it up. I submit that Amradox's desire to see Frappe dead in the game is not as strong as he claims.

My suspicion right now is that Pseudo is the Trickster. The only evidence I have for that is the heated accusations he was pointing at Aramdox just before the Trickster ability was activated to kill him. It's flimsy, but more than I have on anyone else.

As for the Killer... I would say that he's either someone that Arma never mentioned by name at all(see my second list) or someone that got mentioned, but never seriously accused or argued with. Browsing though my list above, that would give us:

Spoiler: Never Mentioned

Twintix
Headsprouter
snekadid
kingofkumquats
altnamejag
Dr. Crawver

Spoiler: Not Seriously Accused or Argued With

BeerTent(only agreed with a quoted accusation, and then spent multiple posts defending him)
FPLOON(semi-accused, but always in a joking manner and even a straight claim of "I voted for FPLOON")
Caramel Frappe(lots of joking, but never anything serious)

And here's my "least likely" list

Spoiler

Aerosteam(seriously accused)
Pseudonym(seriously argued with)
Fractal(accused when there were no standout suspects)
Zeconte(seriously accused)

Note that "least likely" doesn't mean "no evidence," else the names not mentioned at all would also be on it. Just when I compare the interactions between Arma and others in the game, they came out as being the least likely to be those between collaborators given that in this round any attention garnered has generally been bad.

Hmm. Wasn't Armadox crossed off on FPLOON's list?

Also now I'm fairly sure it isn't Frappe on reconsideration.

He seemed to think the dead couldn't influence votes or at least call for someone's head as of last page until I corrected him. But I already had highly suggested the living vote for Armadox. So if he were the killer I'd have expected him to mention it earlier. I'd expect the killer to be fairly aware of all the accusations in the thread and at least tell his lawyer to mention the rule he thought was in place that could help him.

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

@Zeconte: Personally I never would choose [user]Armadox[/user] as my Lawyer if I were the Killer. Not because I felt he would fail me, but the dude's been constantly wanting me dead- that giving him the role might sabotage my Round if he decided to betray me (even though I think it's against the rules for the Lawyer to do so) but yea. He could even possibly PM someone, in secrecy, and have it look like I was 'caught' by whim.

Then again, if he never voted for me- I don't understand why he wants me dead or keeps bringing the subject up lol.

@Secondhand Revenant: Still doesn't sit well with me. Like the rule about people being able to ally with the Killer ... it's just making the game more complicated. Allowing the dead to influence and discuss whom should die seems to cross that red tape. But if Demagogue is cool with it, I can't argue since he's the GM after all.

Fair enough. I personally wouldn't mind if it changed for fairness sake in the future. But for this round it seems the dead may point fingers by the rules from the start. And me and some of the other dead were already discussing before this.