Serial Killer Round 70: Soviet Submarine Slaughter!

[EvilRoy]

When I finally do get executed, all you will have to go off of is the list of people who voted for me, and I guarantee the Killer and lawyer won't be on that list. And that will be that, unfortunately.

Because you're the killer and you haven't voted for yourself...

>:[ quiet you. I have killed nobody except Glitch in a sort of roundabout way.

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

Yeah I'd guess the trickster nabbed one of our votes then proceeded to vote alone... Likely because we were some of the more obvious ones in declaring our suspicion.

1) snek said the Trickster wasn't involved.
2) that's not how the Trickster works... they take a vote from someone (eg gritch) and their vote, and the vote they stole goes to another person. (eg someone else that has 2)

BUT again, snek said the Trickster wasn't involved so that doesn't factor in. so bare minimum there should have been 3 votes if we were all telling the truth. Unless for some reason snek's inbox screwed up again and he didn't get someone's.
@Snek:
can you confirm you got my vote:
Round 2 vote snekadid 5 Sep 2015 10:11 pm

Not who I voted for (since you can't divulge that) but that I am infact one of the voting folks and not the two MIA

ER: Your theory of the killer using you to soak up executions would work if:

1) The killer knew that we'd have such a massive vote split (they couldn't have known, at least not reliably)

2) We have no idea who the Killer/Lawyer voted for. While I'm willing to believe they voted for someone we weren't talking for, that is because one of them is you, and it would be silly for you to vote for yourself.

3) You not dying in the first round is a HUGE red flag, and I don't think you realize that. It was a guaranteed ticket that you were going to have 2 votes plus their two would have sent you over the end. But they (you) obviously went after someone else.

@Frappe Why again are you targeting KoK? What has you on his scent? While I'm fairly certain of ER's involvement in evilness... the other role I'm less settled on, so if you have a theory on KoK I'd be curious to hear it.

The trickster could have done something, it just didn't involve gritch. He stole no vote from gritch and gave none to him. He could still then steal from EvilRoy and vote on his own for someone else bringing Roy down to 2 and the other guy up to 2.

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

@ghoooooostDema

Well, it makes sense to me that I'm still alive. I've said it before, with all of you convinced that I'm the killer, the best tactic for the real killer at this stage is to keep that feud alive at all costs. Did you notice the board? All two's, indicating that the killer/lawyer vote was specifically used on someone people WEREN'T talking about killing. My usefulness is likely coming to a fast end now that my major detractor is dead, but if they can squeeze a few more executions out of me, they probably will. When the dust settles and the game is still going you guys are gonna be screwed though. Nobody has one single decent theory about the killer, beyond "Emergency Room doesn't die when we say he should die".

How would the killer and lawyer know that it was going to be that divided? That seems like a stretch. It isn't voting for you that split the vote, it's everyone voting without sufficient attempt to pick a common target. Not only that if it's so divided the killer and lawyer should jump together with one name being called out otherwise they risk getting killed in the randomness.

They don't need to know that it will be so divided, just that keeping me alive prolongs a wild goose chase. If they vote for me, they will guarantee that they lose their decoy and in the same action implicate themselves. You guys have said multiple times in thread that the Killer and lawyer should be voting for me because people keep announcing they are gonna execute me. Assuming the Killer can read and looks at the thread now and then, you have told them exactly what to do to not get caught. When I finally do get executed, all you will have to go off of is the list of people who voted for me, and I guarantee the Killer and lawyer won't be on that list. And that will be that, unfortunately.

Yeah but people aren't speaking up. That's only true if people speak up and we can ferret out who the Killer is. Some people aren't telling us who they vote for which means the killer just has to not speak up and then we have an unfortunately large target list. Or they take credit for a vote that no one else spoke for. And with that possibility we can't even off the silent ones

Also the decoy thing would be a bad idea for the killer because they should want a united vote on someone that isn't them. If they see it happening they should encourage it. They would generally not want united voting but if they see it on someone else then it is beneficial for them to join in rather than spread the votes and maybe die for it.

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

Also where's the priest? Did I miss it or have they not revived the spy yet?

 

[Headsprouter]

Also where's the priest? Did I miss it or have they not revived the spy yet?

No. I'm still translucent as ever.

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

Also where's the priest? Did I miss it or have they not revived the spy yet?

No. I'm still translucent as ever.

The priest better revive you before they get stabbed...

 

[crimson5pheonix]

I wonder if the arbiter will ever use his role >.>

 

[Armadox]

Choose carefully.

One is the killer. The other is a banana.

They look the same.

 

[Demagogue]

1) I mainly suspected [user]kingofkumquats[/user] is because he's usually more active. Now while it's understandable he could be busy with life or not as 'engaged' with this forum game, I started to suspect him more about the first murder. He usually comments when someone dies as a 'rip user' kinda post. But he didn't, and that seemed odd to me. Even after coming to defend himself (props to him for handling the suspicions like a boss), he has not commented since so I am still keen on seeing if he's actually involved as the Killer / Lawyer.

I see I see... I figured there was something, but was curious as to what.

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

@Demagogue: A few things I gotta explain ...

1) I mainly suspected [user]kingofkumquats[/user] is because he's usually more active. Now while it's understandable he could be busy with life or not as 'engaged' with this forum game, I started to suspect him more about the first murder. He usually comments when someone dies as a 'rip user' kinda post. But he didn't, and that seemed odd to me. Even after coming to defend himself (props to him for handling the suspicions like a boss), he has not commented since so I am still keen on seeing if he's actually involved as the Killer / Lawyer.

2) I'm not the Arbiter i'm afraid. I have a role, but i'm not that. .. .. just letting you know before everyone thinks I can take out [user]EvilRoy[/user]. Even if I was one, I wouldn't take out EvilRoy because you guys would most likely vote for his execution anyways so i'd rather save it for the next possible suspect. Unless that's a poor decision to make but i'm just being honest here lol.

Well you should likely have not mentioned having a role then... it gives the killer a reason to stab you and you can't really stop it. Unless our medic saves you

 

[EvilRoy]

Yeah but people aren't speaking up. That's only true if people speak up and we can ferret out who the Killer is. Some people aren't telling us who they vote for which means the killer just has to not speak up and then we have an unfortunately large target list. Or they take credit for a vote that no one else spoke for. And with that possibility we can't even off the silent ones

Also the decoy thing would be a bad idea for the killer because they should want a united vote on someone that isn't them. If they see it happening they should encourage it. They would generally not want united voting but if they see it on someone else then it is beneficial for them to join in rather than spread the votes and maybe die for it.

Why would the killer worry about the vote being unified or ununified if the killer hasn't even been on the suspect list? Roughly half the people in the game aren't receiving votes or attention of any kind. If the killer is one of those, then there is no reason to create a unified vote. They can just let us languish in madness and second guessing every decision, while slowly working out the important targets and offing them. Even if they are on the list of targets, the struggle to unify the vote against me only works in their favour as key players in the game waste cycle after cycle trying and failing to convince everybody to off Emergency Room rather than them. They will just wait until I die, and then start playing along with the unified vote.

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

Yeah but people aren't speaking up. That's only true if people speak up and we can ferret out who the Killer is. Some people aren't telling us who they vote for which means the killer just has to not speak up and then we have an unfortunately large target list. Or they take credit for a vote that no one else spoke for. And with that possibility we can't even off the silent ones

Also the decoy thing would be a bad idea for the killer because they should want a united vote on someone that isn't them. If they see it happening they should encourage it. They would generally not want united voting but if they see it on someone else then it is beneficial for them to join in rather than spread the votes and maybe die for it.

Why would the killer worry about the vote being unified or ununified if the killer hasn't even been on the suspect list? Roughly half the people in the game aren't receiving votes or attention of any kind. If the killer is one of those, then there is no reason to create a unified vote. They can just let us languish in madness and second guessing every decision, while slowly working out the important targets and offing them. Even if they are on the list of targets, the struggle to unify the vote against me only works in their favour as key players in the game waste cycle after cycle trying and failing to convince everybody to off Emergency Room rather than them. They will just wait until I die, and then start playing along with the unified vote.

Yes there is. Because if people are voting all over the place or teaming up in secret the killer could get whacked. Just look how many people tied this past time. It's better for them to know someone who isn't them will die than effectively having a totally random person die.

 

[EvilRoy]

@SR

No, I mean like... OK, for a hypothetical, and without accusation, lets say Twintix is the killer. Why would Twintix bother to do anything about the vote? Nobody has ever accused him of being the killer, and nobody has ever voted for him. Raising his voice would bring him to the attention of the thread, and people being divided on the killer benefits him, because it indicates we do not trust one another.

Would it not be in his best interest to simply allow the game to continue as it has, people chasing their tails and all? I would presume it is highly unlikely a number of you have been making secret arrangements to not ever vote for him or discuss him in thread until he has been lulled into a false sense of security at which point you would jump him by all voting for him at once. Its not like you get a stealth bonus for catching the person to be executed off guard.

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

@SR

No, I mean like... OK, for a hypothetical, and without accusation, lets say Twintix is the killer. Why would Twintix bother to do anything about the vote? Nobody has ever accused him of being the killer, and nobody has ever voted for him. Raising his voice would bring him to the attention of the thread, and people being divided on the killer benefits him, because it indicates we do not trust one another.

Would it not be in his best interest to simply allow the game to continue as it has, people chasing their tails and all? I would presume it is highly unlikely a number of you have been making secret arrangements to not ever vote for him or discuss him in thread until he has been lulled into a false sense of security at which point you would jump him by all voting for him at once. Its not like you get a stealth bonus for catching the person to be executed off guard.

Maybe I'm forgetting but I don't remember anyone mentioning altnameJag or Armadox before they both hit the top of the list. When people are silent it gets tricky to know how the vote will go. It could be someone not mentioned but why would they vote for some random person over someone more likely to die? In the hope that the obvious target somehow survives and some unmentioned person dies? They should want at least one mentioned name dead, not a completely unknown one that could be them. After all its not like the people who aren't speaking together about the votes are in any way predictable.

 

[Demagogue]

No, I mean like... OK, for a hypothetical, and without accusation, lets say Twintix is the killer. Why would Twintix bother to do anything about the vote? Nobody has ever accused him of being the killer, and nobody has ever voted for him. Raising his voice would bring him to the attention of the thread, and people being divided on the killer benefits him, because it indicates we do not trust one another.

To quote Aerosteam.... Twintix is a chic... with tits. *nod nod*

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

No, I mean like... OK, for a hypothetical, and without accusation, lets say Twintix is the killer. Why would Twintix bother to do anything about the vote? Nobody has ever accused him of being the killer, and nobody has ever voted for him. Raising his voice would bring him to the attention of the thread, and people being divided on the killer benefits him, because it indicates we do not trust one another.

To quote Aerosteam.... Twintix is a chic... with tits. *nod nod*

No wonder EvilRoy hasn't accused Twintix yet, he's looking for a guy to point at.

 

[Armadox]

No, I mean like... OK, for a hypothetical, and without accusation, lets say Twintix is the killer. Why would Twintix bother to do anything about the vote? Nobody has ever accused him of being the killer, and nobody has ever voted for him. Raising his voice would bring him to the attention of the thread, and people being divided on the killer benefits him, because it indicates we do not trust one another.

To quote Aerosteam.... Twintix is a chic... with tits. *nod nod*

No wonder EvilRoy hasn't accused Twintix yet, he's looking for a guy to point at.

Ha cha cha cha!

 

[FPLOON]

Choose carefully.

One is the killer. The other is a lemon.

They look the same.

Fixed because all bananas are Arbiters in disguise...

No wonder EvilRoy hasn't accused Twintix yet, he's looking for a guy to point at.

Rumor: EvilRoy showcases "evilness" via "unintentional" sexism!

 

[EvilRoy]

@SecondGenderless
Yeah well. You SMELL bad.


@DemaGirl

I consider gender to be a fluid concept whereupon it changes depending on context and necessity. Meaning that I'm never technically wrong about an assumption I make.

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

@SecondGenderless
Yeah well. You SMELL bad.


@DemaGirl

I consider gender to be a fluid concept whereupon it changes depending on context and necessity. Meaning that I'm never technically wrong about an assumption I make.

Context and necessity? Are you suggesting, perhaps, that Twintix being a guy is necessary Evil? You are the Evil one after all...