Serious question regarding consoles.

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pha kin su pah

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arguing that paying for 360's internet isn't really logical, considering you can argue the same point with people that play WoW compared to guild wars, nobody cares that much, especially since the 360 is what? 60AUD a year? (cud be wrong but eh) its still cheaper than playing wow.

ultimately, my final decision came down to exclusives, which console has more games you want? you can adapt to everything else.
 

Bulletinmybrain

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pha kin su pah post=9.74382.833107 said:
arguing that paying for 360's internet isn't really logical, considering you can argue the same point with people that play WoW compared to guild wars, nobody cares that much, especially since the 360 is what? 60AUD a year? (cud be wrong but eh) its still cheaper than playing wow.

ultimately, my final decision came down to exclusives, which console has more games you want? you can adapt to everything else.
But you are paying 60$ for terrible servers with one guy being able to ruin the whole thing. I just got back from a 60 person game of resistance 2 and guess what? Zero lag. The entire time. For free.
 

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I switched from 360 to PS3 because of having to replace my 360 four times due to RROD. Microsoft does repair them for free (as long as you've got the warranty), but it was just too much hassle. Any company that can't put together a system that works for longer than a few months at a time's not worth the money, in my mind.

it's a shame, too, since I REALLY LIKED my 360 and was hoping to get a shot at Fable II. Oh, well.
 

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As for the 360 cont. I was very much so a diehard ps1/ps2 fan and I had very little problem with the cont. switch. The RROD is not as prevalent now as it was. If you buy a box just make sure the manufacture date is somewhat recent. Also in the U.S. the fixing time seems to be as little as 2 weeks now. Also a problem I had with my ps3 was with people on the live service without mic's. It just does not seem to be as big of a problem on the 360. And lastley the 360 does get regular patches - usually a spring and or fall update. There is an update set for nov.17th(maybe 16) called the new xbox expierence (nxe) that you may want to look at. These are also free of charge - if you paid for gold. The updates on the games how-ever are based on the dev. not microsoft. All that being said though, if you like the 360 games more get the 360. If however, you cant live without MGS4 or Ratchet and Clank you should get yourself a PS3 sir.
 

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PS3... 360 is at it's limit and the ps3 is about 40 percent. (some dev). also they are going to have to start multi disking on the 360 soon
 

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Only consider the games, because that's what you are buying the thing for I guess.
And the Idiots on XBL, well, you can just turn people's voices off, so you'll ONLY hear your friends. Problem solved eh?

And, here in the Netherlands, newly released titles for PS3 are 70 euros compared to Xbox 360 release titles that are 60. So, it depends on where you live.

I have seen an Xbox 360 arcade for sale in stores for just 140 Euro, search Ebay for a cheap HD, and you are set!

EDIT: And for the commenter above me, do you really believe that? LOL!
 

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Trogd0r post=9.74382.833676 said:
EDIT: And for the commenter above me, do you really believe that? LOL!
That seemed unnecessary...

Anyway, first to mention is the power usage of the ps3, I don't pay for the power, so I can't comment, but it could well go over the whatever per year for Xbox live.
You can change the PS3's hard drive, best I saw was 500GB (about the same price as buying the 120B Xbox upgrade) and I THINK it doesn't void the warranty to change it.

Backwards compatibility, not as good as Sony would have us think, the ps3 plays most PS1 games and most PS2 games, and the number increases with each patch (seemingly weekly patches) to save cost, the 40GB version can't play PS2 games, so check before you buy.

To be honest I think the real reason the Playstation Network has less jerks is because it have less microphones, its just hard have a nice conversation on it.

PS3 controllers have internal battery's, and can be charged by USB which are all over the place, usually no need to buy new ones.

However the controllers do seem to develop a slight squeak in the analogue sticks, I haven't tried the Dualshock 3

But if you do buy a 360 go for the elite, perhaps I am unlucky, but I know of 6 or so Xbox owners, all of them broke at some point.
 

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Well here's my personal rundown, as an owner of all three current-gen consoles. So I don't get too much redundancy here, I'm only going to list things that are a notable advantage or disadvantage (i.e.: I won't note built-in wifi as a pro for the PS3 and Wii because I'm listing it as a con for the 360).

XBox 360
Pros
- Superior controller: I like the offset thumbsticks and the triggers are fantastic.
- Superior versions of multiplatform titles: several titles (to name a couple: Assassin's Creed and Orange Box) shipped on the PS3 with game-ruining bugs that needed to be patched later. Granted, the 360 has had it's share of launch bugs that need to be patched later, but to a lesser extent.
- Superior exclusives: The 360 has the exclusives I want to play - Halo 3, Fable 2, and a few others that slip my mind right now.
- Superior online experience: Sure, you have to pay for it, but it's worth it. People who criticise an XBox LIVE gold subscription costing some eight cents a day can suck it.
- XBox Live Arcade: The range of titles available for download is excellent. There's really something for everyone.

Cons
- RROD: Thankfully I've only suffered this once in the two years I've been a 360 owner.
- Expensive to upgrade: Unfortunately if I want to swap out my 20gb HDD for the 120gb model, I have to buy the one Microsoft tells me to, no exceptions, and it's horribly overpriced.
- No wi-fi out of the box: If we want to connect to a wireless router, I have to buy the specific wifi adapter Microsoft tells me to. Yes, there's a handful of others that work, but not as reliably. And why isn't this feature just included?


Playstation 3
Pros
- Cheaper to upgrade: Use any compatible hard drive you like: As more and more media is distributed digitally, and given that even many disc-based games on the PS3 require hundreds if not thousands of megabytes of data to be copied to the hard drive, this is an important option to have.
- Blu-ray: I was pretty cynical about blu-ray as a media format until I put Casino Royale in my PS3 to watch it on my 32" LCD in 1080p. Do this, and your attitude will change.
- No region lock: Just as an example, Silent Hill: Homecoming has been refused classification in Australia and as a result cannot be sold here. Since I own a PS3, this no longer affects me. My import from Play-Asia should be arriving tomorrow. I don't disagree that Australia needs an R18+ classification - I'm very much in favour of it. But that's a whole other story.
- SixAxis: I don't like SixAxis as part of a regular control scheme, but for some uses (guided freefall in Ratchet & Clank, shaking off grappling enemies in Resistance) it adds an extra level to the gameplay. This isn't a LARGE pro for the PS3, but it's a worthwhile feature when implemented properly.

Cons
- Marketing: Sony still hasn't decided what exactly they want the PS3 to be and handed out a lot of misinformation in the leadup to the launch to convince people to part with their money again. Sony has a lot of power as a brand that sells games and they really did a lot of damage to themselves. This has left many gamers with a negative attitude towards the PS3 and hurt sales more than the price tag ever could.
- Exclusives: The PS3 haemorrhages them. They lost Final Fantasy this year. Final Fantasy. My wife, who hates RPGs, understands the significance of this. There are less and less reasons for gamers to invest in this product and majority of exclusives Sony are holding onto aren't outstandingly popular, or they're new IPs that are untested with their potential audience.
- Constant firmware revisions: Look, support is good and I respect that Sony wants to keep their users up to date. But it seems like they're patching and repatching shit every week. I'm not saying to scale it back to twice a year like the 360 does, but there's got to be an balance they can strike.

Wii
Pros
- Motion control: The Wiimote works surprisingly well and you can put as much into a game as you like - subdued twitch controls work well if that's what you prefer, but this isn't the objective of Nintendo.
- Great casual games: What the Wii has in spades is casual mini/party games. Great for pick up and play when friends are over.
- News/weather channels: Fun features. Not great, but nice inclusions. I can see these getting a lot of use from anyone who uses their Wii a lot.

Cons
- The games suck: Honestly, there's really hardly anything worth playing outside of the party games. A few standout exceptions such as Super Mario Galaxy and Zelda: Twilight Princess, I suppose. The port of Resident Evil 4 was pretty good. But for the most part, the selection of Wii titles is shit and my little white box is gathering dust.
- Limited internal memory: Hardly any hard drive space and no option to save to an SD card. No intention to release a hard drive addon. No the memory is fine for your savegames, but the virtual console will fill it up real fast, leaving you to delete to make space for new games, only to redownload them later when you feel like playing them again.
- Worst online experience: Friend codes are a nightmare. The virtual console is mostly either stuff we've already played to death, or games not worth paying for in the first place. I sometimes wonder how people do manage to fill up their hard drives.



Summary.

I think the 360 is the best option for gamers right now - best games, best support, best online. Some people might feel limited by the functionality of an unmodded console at times, but I think they're expecting it to be something other than a gaming console and that's not a fair way to judge something. It's not chalk's fault I want cheese.

The PS3 is a good product, but not the best product for gaming. It has the best range of features and the most potential to really dazzle us.

The Wii is a toy and nothing more than that. It has wide appeal, but only initially. Anyone will get bored with the Wii very quickly and I considering it strictly a purchase for casual gamers only. If you're serious about your gaming, and most people are these days, choose one of the other machines.
 

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Why is it everyone claims only XBL has jerks and annoying ppl? Last time I checked there is no personality test to be able to buy a PS3. Or am I wrong and there is an asshole filter on the PSN?
 
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Indigo_Dingo post=9.74382.833030 said:
VampireBob post=9.74382.832936 said:
I am actually debating weather to buy an Xbox 360 or PS3 myself, here are some notes I haven't seen here.

OK, price issues.
-PS3 starts with wifi connectivity. You need to pay $100 bucks for an adapter for Xbox, I think.
-A note on RRoD. Microsoft claims to have fixed it. The number of faulty units has dropped significantly, but there are still some overheating issues. At this point, for me, it isn't about reality, it's about the reputation. I would get too nervous playing an Xbox. I'd just constantly be worried about overheating it. I couldn't play for hours on end, perhaps not a bad thing, but not a fun thing. PS3 just gives me a peace of mind.
-PS3can play PS2 and PS1 games.
Umm, no. All Ps3's can play Ps1 games, but I think they've discontinued Ps3's with Ps2 compatability. Why? No idea.
Actually, you just have to download a thing for free and you can play PS2 games.
 

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squid5580 post=9.74382.834303 said:
Why is it everyone claims only XBL has jerks and annoying ppl? Last time I checked there is no personality test to be able to buy a PS3. Or am I wrong and there is an asshole filter on the PSN?
My brother has a 360 and whenever I play it with him it seems to be half morons and half people who are actually ok. I have a PS3 and there are just as many irritating people online as there are on xbox live. So I don't know where this is coming from either. I guess it is luck on who you are playing with.
 

Loderian

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regardless of the console, it should be a choice made on what games you want and are looking forward too.

Do you want Fable 2? Gears of War 2? Final Fantasy 13? Maybe Halo 3 and/or Halo Wars?

What about Flatout 2? Fallout 3? Little Big Planet, or even Bioshock 2 & 3(release 2011)?

Remember most games are cross-platform, so it may be a hard choice.
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Side advice for 360 potentials, go for the $199, and buy an external hard drive. They are connectible via USB, and I got a 1 terabyte HD from Best Buy for about $50 more than the 120 gig microsoft internal 360 hard drive.
 

[Gavo]

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If you have a HDTV and a bit more money in your pocket, go with the PS3.
-Blu-Ray player
-Little Big Planet
-Maybe there's not so many games now, but 2009 is looking good.

360 a good alternative, if you don't mind paying to play online.

Do not buy a Wii. Just don't. Worst decision ever, will last you about a year w/ current non-shit games.
 

Eldritch Warlord

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Indigo_Dingo post=9.74382.833030 said:
Umm, no. All Ps3's can play Ps1 games, but I think they've discontinued Ps3's with Ps2 compatability. Why? No idea.
So people would stop buying/making PS2 games. That's straight from Sony's lips. It was in a press release. You really didn't hear that? You seem so informed about Sony's dealings.

Cinder Block of Oppression post=9.74382.834313 said:
Actually, you just have to download a thing for free and you can play PS2 games.
Link? Legal?
 

Loderian

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Eldritch Warlord post=9.74382.834422 said:
So people would stop buying/making PS2 games. That's straight from Sony's lips. It was in a press release. You really didn't hear that? You seem so informed about Sony's dealings.
They haven't stopped making them yet though. There are PS2 games with release dates that were just announced for upcoming years, until 2011, but no list i've seen goes past 2011 for any console.
 

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Loderian post=9.74382.834479 said:
Eldritch Warlord post=9.74382.834422 said:
So people would stop buying/making PS2 games. That's straight from Sony's lips. It was in a press release. You really didn't hear that? You seem so informed about Sony's dealings.
They haven't stopped making them yet though. There are PS2 games with release dates that were just announced for upcoming years, until 2011, but no list i've seen goes past 2011 for any console.
So it didn't work.

EDIT: Here's a link [http://www.gamespot.com/news/6181373.html?tag=result;title;7]
 

Loderian

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Until a viable stream of PS3 games emerge, developers will most definately still be pumping out games for PS2 and at their current rate of release and quality, it will be a LONG time.

Just look at some of their upcoming PS3 releases: http://ps3.ign.com/index/release.html

Disney Sing it
legend of Spyro
Sing Star Vol. 2
Walt Disney Pictures Bolt
Wheel of Fortune
Prison Break the game
 

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Loderian post=9.74382.834519 said:
Until a viable stream of PS3 games emerge, developers will most definately still be pumping out games for PS2 and at their current rate of release and quality, it will be a LONG time.

Just look at some of their upcoming PS3 releases: http://ps3.ign.com/index/release.html

Disney Sing it
legend of Spyro
Sing Star Vol. 2
Walt Disney Pictures Bolt
Wheel of Fortune
Prison Break the game
At the risk of being called a fanboy most of those games you have listed are multiplatform
 

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Trogd0r post=9.74382.833676 said:
Only consider the games, because that's what you are buying the thing for I guess.
And the Idiots on XBL, well, you can just turn people's voices off, so you'll ONLY hear your friends. Problem solved eh?

And, here in the Netherlands, newly released titles for PS3 are 70 euros compared to Xbox 360 release titles that are 60. So, it depends on where you live.

I have seen an Xbox 360 arcade for sale in stores for just 140 Euro, search Ebay for a cheap HD, and you are set!

EDIT: And for the commenter above me, do you really believe that? LOL!
Yes? The ***** doesn't come with a 8-core processor just for show. The only game yet thats pushed the ps3 past the 40% mark is killzone 2 which is using 4 out of the six useable processors.