Seriously, todays youth?

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SilverUchiha

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this video did not change my opinion, but I've seen a lot of bratty, annoying, and disrespectful kids during my volunteer work at my old elementary school a few years back. I'll agree they SEEM to get worse every year, but even if they are, it is the fault of the parents for not teaching their kids to not be little whiny shits (mostly)
 

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stinkychops said:
Matt King said:
i'm in year 10 (in uk) and me and my friends are actually pretty sane, but i think we're just are calm year as the years below and occasionally above are massive TWATS (yes i know they prob think we are to but just trust me on this one)
What? You're not making a great case for yourself here mate. If you're making a case at all (I can;t tell).
Ah well, I'll make a case for him, then. I have a friend in the UK who's generally quite nice, and almost at least as smart and mature as someone twice his age, at age 12. Granted, I know this is the exception, but it can happen.



Now, as for the actual topic, rant time. Sort of. Hope this doesn't offend anyone.

First of all, I get that I'm hardly a shining example of virtue in "today's youth" or anything like that, so to avoid burying myself, I won't use myself as an example.

But before I get to anything else, the video. Yes, those are weapons. Yes, they can cause harm. Were they intended to? By the look of things, no, it was made on a "because I can" basis. He had free time, and felt like being creative, so he made some things. Good for him, I've made plenty of crafts myself, his are just potentially harmful rather than, say, pottery.

All the same, no, possession does not imply intent to cause harm. Some people might have guns, swords or knives in their house, often on display. Does this mean they're about to go on a shooting/stabbing spree? Hardly, much like being a lumberjack does not make you a psychotic axe murderer (well, except where trees are concerned). So no, there is nothing here to be disturbed by. I actually hear plenty of complaints that "kids these days" don't know how to make things any more, so this is a bit of an odd one.

Anyway, on to my second and last point, which probably won't go down all that well with anyone who reads this. Lucky for me that no one's about to read this much text anyway, really. The "kids these days"/"today's youth" demographic that people seem to enjoy pointing fingers at and accusing of whatever it is this week? It doesn't exist.

It's a generalisation, a stereotype, whatever term you prefer. It's as justified as the rest of its kind, maybe very slightly more. In the end, it holds as much water as any "all of x are y" statements based on, say, age group, gender, ethnicity, religion or whatever you care to name.

It's really a conversational panic button - mention it if you want to scare people. Now, discounting some of the obvious nitpicks (at age five, for example, there are going to be limits on your mental capacity at least to some extent), it simply isn't true. Granted, yes, there are kids who are obnoxious idiots; there's one typing this right now, for example. And yet, this is true for every other age group as well. Yes, you can find bad examples if you look, and often even if you don't. Good examples often stand out less, and are therefore harder to find.

The real reason for the panic is a combination of finding actual bad examples, I think, and being worried by change, which happens each generation. I'm hesitant to call it cultural evolution, since it's not universally good or bad, it just is. I understand how that feels, seeing as a few of the ways in which the world is changing right now scares me, and has for a few years.

I would still like to think it's no excuse for judging a sizable part of the population by default for no reason beyond their age. As you can see, the many flaws of my age group include senseless optimism.
 

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My first instinct on reading this was to think "people have been expresing the 'this generation is going to the dogs' sentiment since Socrates, in text at least."

The fixation on weapons is something I myself can't particularly identify with, but so long as he doesn't have any malevolent intent, I don't care what he does.
 

Wintermoot

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well at least he,s recourse-full he probaly watched allot of McGyver I,m not that worried about the youth although I despise them
 

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JUMBO PALACE said:
Oh please. "Kids today" are no different than any other time period. There's a couple winners, a lot of average people, and a sizable portion of losers and delinquents.
I Agree, I was an asshole when I was young too... seeing me now you would never have guessed it.
One of my friends at 17 yrs of age got a 16 month sentence for fighting. For most it is just a stage, eventually kids will 'grow up' and some will always remain douche bags. Some of you could have been asses too, but it was so long ago you probably don't remember.
 

octafish

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Pffft. We used to this sort of stuff in the eighties when there was no internet and no video games. My only regret is the time I wasted trying to get a torque based catapult to work, I now know that trebuchets are much more efficient.
 

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WrongSprite said:
How is that disturbing? He's not hurting anyone.

Go back a couple of hundred years and he'd be in the army, killing people.

I think "todays youth" are alright.
Nah go back 70 years he wouldn't have to be in the army and not only would he get away with killing people he would also be congratulated on it.
 

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I was expecting this to be a thread about text obsession and a complete lack of etiquette, which I would agree with. Although that might be just because I hate everyone else in my age group.

OT: Meh. Kids who are legitimately violent won't bother to make complicated weapons. They'll just take the most effective thing they can find, usually a knife or gun.
 

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Reminds me of that sad kid on Youtube who was making Halo weapons out of cardboard and was showing them off like it was awesome.
O.T. Oi! I'm today's youth and I take offence at that! And by 'offence' I mean 'We totally suck, and I formally apologise.'.
 

Beryl77

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I must say, that boy has a lot of creativity.
Things like this have always happened and not just in this current generation. To make an assumption about a whole generation based on one youtube video isn't the right thing to do either in my opinion.

btw. that crossbow is awesome
 

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WrongSprite said:
How is that disturbing? He's not hurting anyone.

Go back a couple of hundred years and he'd be in the army, killing people.

I think "todays youth" are alright.
He's not hurting anyone........in the video you mean....cus what hes doing with that stuff out of the video ...... we have no idea.

It is disturbing because this stuff wont be enough for him when he is 15 or 16 and he will be killing people....but not in an army, he will start with using homemade weapons on neighborhood animals, then he kills his parents with some homemade weapons, and then some school mates and then some police then...etc. Then he will have lots of practice carving shivs by the time we get him to prison.

Largely I believe the youth of today is more or less OK, but not this kid....no way.
 

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Bravo Company said:
Is it just me or is this video seriously disturbing? We have kids making weapons out of plastic clothes hangers and crayola markers !


Opinions on this? I think this is creepy, thank goodness I'm a kind person
Are you honestly stereotyping the whole of today's youth because of one kid that made those?

adults these days...
 

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When I read the topic I thought, oh man some guy whining about kids not getting jobs and living off they're parents, instead I got a cool video and now I want to try and out craft this kid.
 

Tiger Sora

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Really I'm more worried about kids dropping ballons filled with paint on my car off an overpass than them having fun tinkering.