Yes, I remember that in the books. After the failure to take Osgiliath, Denethor sent out the Vanguard to bring the survivors back in, and that is when Faramir was struck with the black dart from the Witch King.JaceArveduin said:*warning: it's been awhile so some facts may not be completely straight*Soviet Heavy said:I actually think he was an improvement over the book. In the book, Faramir showed his quality through his defiance of the Ring immediately. While that definitely works for his character to show his differences with Boromir, I felt the more nuanced and flawed character from the films worked better.
It makes more sense to me personally. He is grieving over his brother's death, and it is affecting his judgment, making him more vulnerable to the Ring's influence. It makes his change of heart more emotionally connecting than just immediately overcoming it.
Both versions show the same message: that there is still good in Mankind, and they have the willpower to overcome obstacles. The film's version of fighting the struggle seems more inspiring than simply being a beacon of what man is capable of like was presented in the book.
The reason he was 'pure' is because the blood of Numenor ran truer through him than it did his brother or father. They also made him look fairly bad when they made his injury due to leading his men to their death, just to satisfy his father. In the books he was injured while trying to protect as many of his men as he could. He was grieving in the books too, iirc, but he was holding strong for his men.
I liked him in the books because he was a heroic leader of men in the strain of the Lords of Numenor of old.
one of those "to each their own" things to be honest. And you're right, both are great.Soviet Heavy said:Yes, I remember that in the books. After the failure to take Osgiliath, Denethor sent out the Vanguard to bring the survivors back in, and that is when Faramir was struck with the black dart from the Witch King.
Both versions work well, I just prefer the film's take.
He did? Didn't know that. I knew he was awesome, but not that awesome!chaos order said:also dont forget he voiced V from "V for vendetta"
Hey, he was the guy who got eaten by the tiny dinosaurs in Jurassic Park 2.DaJoW said:John Candy has been dead for 17 years. Not saying he wasn't a good actor, but he's unlikely to get much screen time.mrdude2010 said:John Candy. He's like a funny Chris Farley.
OT: Tim Curry doesn't seem to get as much attention as he deserves, in everything I've seen him in he's been brilliant. I'd also say Peter Stormare deserves better than small roles usually leading to death, because he is a genuinely talented actor. It may be he has some bad accent, but he's played leading roles in some of the biggest Swedish movies for a reason (we do have a fair amount of good actors).
about time someone mentioned that.chaos order said:also dont forget he voiced V from "V for vendetta"JaceArveduin said:Never realized that he played both of those roles, though now that I think about it, I can see it. Yeah, I loved Faramir, too bad it didn't keep to the books a tad bit more.Soviet Heavy said:For me, the most outspoken actor is David Wenham. He's the guy who played Faramir in Lord of the Rings and Dilios in 300. Both of these roles he excels in, yet when in discussion about the films, he is always playing second fiddle to the acting chops of people like Ian McKellan, or being drowned out by the massive ham of Gerard Butler.
I do know that's who played Elrond, though how I've retained that knowledge is a mystery. He did a good Elrond in my humble opinion.Jakub324 said:Hugo Weaving, mainly for the Agent Smith thing. He delivered every line perfectly.
And that's where I drop the name James Nesbitt to counter that arguement. Just watch the miniseries Jekyll. That's an actor that needs more love.bioshockedcriticjrr said:also, Andy Serkis, whose perhaps the most physical actor ever. also, if I were ever going to make a remake of "Jeckel and Hyde" he would officially be the best Hyde ever. EVER
He was also the disembodied voice for Deadliest Warrior.captaincabbage said:Davin Wenhem. That sneaky bastard has shown up in a bunch of great rolls in the last decade, and always turning out great performances.
All of this is great but then he played the Red Skull in Captain America. It was alright until he ripped his face off.....chaos order said:also dont forget he voiced V from "V for vendetta"JaceArveduin said:Never realized that he played both of those roles, though now that I think about it, I can see it. Yeah, I loved Faramir, too bad it didn't keep to the books a tad bit more.Soviet Heavy said:For me, the most outspoken actor is David Wenham. He's the guy who played Faramir in Lord of the Rings and Dilios in 300. Both of these roles he excels in, yet when in discussion about the films, he is always playing second fiddle to the acting chops of people like Ian McKellan, or being drowned out by the massive ham of Gerard Butler.
I do know that's who played Elrond, though how I've retained that knowledge is a mystery. He did a good Elrond in my humble opinion.Jakub324 said:Hugo Weaving, mainly for the Agent Smith thing. He delivered every line perfectly.
The man is a vampire. Like, an immortal vampire. So....being on the down low is a good thing for him.ScrubberDucky said:I think Kenau Reeves gets a bit too much shit. He's good at one or two specific roles, but he's really good in those. And he's a really nice guy, newfound internet fame aside, it's hard to hate him.
That he was, for whatever it's worth.Soviet Heavy said:He was also the disembodied voice for Deadliest Warrior.captaincabbage said:Davin Wenhem. That sneaky bastard has shown up in a bunch of great rolls in the last decade, and always turning out great performances.
The hell are you talking about? If there is one universal truth that everyone can agree on, it's that Bruce Willis is a badass. He gets plenty of credit, not under-rated at all.pearcinator said:I'll probably be in the minority for this but I think Bruce Willis is underrated...especially in action scenes, there is nothing more badass when Bruce Willis does some crazy action stunt with a deadpan expression on his face.
In many of his movies he's the 'average Joe in an extraordinary circumstance' character and he nails it when he plays the role.
Well the most Bruce Willis has won is a Golden Globe and he's never had a single Oscar nomination. He is underrated in the context that he doesn't win many awards...let alone get nominated for themx-machina said:The hell are you talking about? If there is one universal truth that everyone can agree on, it's that Bruce Willis is a badass. He gets plenty of credit, not under-rated at all.pearcinator said:I'll probably be in the minority for this but I think Bruce Willis is underrated...especially in action scenes, there is nothing more badass when Bruce Willis does some crazy action stunt with a deadpan expression on his face.
In many of his movies he's the 'average Joe in an extraordinary circumstance' character and he nails it when he plays the role.
I'll go with Casey Affleck. He is a terrific actor, but I admit his voice can be annoying.