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When I was about 16, I heard the song If You Tolerate This Then Your Children Will Be Next (before people rant, I know the line is based on a political poster for the Spanish revolutionary war). It somewhat gave me a shove towards me actually caring about society, as much as I hate it (despite me not really planning to have kids). It also made me a lot more interested in social psychology theories than just psychiatric psychology, just because how they shape society so much. I got very interested in Zimbardo's Standford Prison Experiment, Milgram's Obedience Experiment and the Subway Samaritan Experiment (forgot who by).
To be more precise, I find conformity and obedience incredibly interesting just because they let bad men command the good, twisting the good to view the bad as good men or as evils that must happen. Like for instances, there are businesses out there who actually advertise and sell Coca Cola to third world countries so much, that there are people actually drinking Coca Cola instead of having their medicine. You may say "well, it's their fault for falling for it"; but in reality, considering the lack of education, they're more likely to take something that shows a healthy happy man taking it than something in a poorly labelled small bottle, especially when said contains tastes horrible.
It's because we tolerate bad things that we have to just cope with them. We have gangs on the street making citizens scared to go out at night or to even go out during the day. We have corrupt police and a corrupt government that twists things so we just mumble our disagreements instead of yelling at them and breaking down the door, taking for the government's word that everything is being dealt with appropriately. If you're not happy with your current state, why should you have to deal with it? I know everyone has a different equilibrium, but some things just shouldn't have to be dealt with. Lies fed to the people, exploitation by businesses and fear of crime should be three things people shouldn't have to deal with, but they do anyway.
To be more precise, I find conformity and obedience incredibly interesting just because they let bad men command the good, twisting the good to view the bad as good men or as evils that must happen. Like for instances, there are businesses out there who actually advertise and sell Coca Cola to third world countries so much, that there are people actually drinking Coca Cola instead of having their medicine. You may say "well, it's their fault for falling for it"; but in reality, considering the lack of education, they're more likely to take something that shows a healthy happy man taking it than something in a poorly labelled small bottle, especially when said contains tastes horrible.
It's because we tolerate bad things that we have to just cope with them. We have gangs on the street making citizens scared to go out at night or to even go out during the day. We have corrupt police and a corrupt government that twists things so we just mumble our disagreements instead of yelling at them and breaking down the door, taking for the government's word that everything is being dealt with appropriately. If you're not happy with your current state, why should you have to deal with it? I know everyone has a different equilibrium, but some things just shouldn't have to be dealt with. Lies fed to the people, exploitation by businesses and fear of crime should be three things people shouldn't have to deal with, but they do anyway.
*ahem* Yes, Moon Base's should be a dime a dozen by now (only being slightly sarcastic)... Seriously though the original lander got there with it's now famously small computers (although all they needed the computers for was transmitting and receiving signals between lunar module and NASA) and tiny looking crew compartment, surely the shuttle could go the distance especially if they build a new improved one to carry equipment to start constructing a nice building on the moon. The distance and time involved getting there and back in my mind makes it a little optimistic to have permanent occupation (like the ISS is doing) of the moon by humans until long, long after people start going back there. Still the shuttle could carry the foundations of building a base might even be easier than the ISS Construction if they took a machine to use the moonrock and soil as building material to reinforce a relativly large, structurally weak(flatpackPaksenarrion said:
) but airtight base.Oh and on the Topic in general rather than this fun little subplot. Bio-fuel, when I started to hear the large benefits of this stuff I started thinking why not have incentives to convert to Bio-fuel's rather than Hybrids which are highly questionable environmentally still and I realised Marketing Hype, Big Oil Companies, Lack of understanding about car technology in general (much like computer games and Computers often being misunderstood) wouldn't allow it. Part of why current Bio-fuel competes with food production is the US Legislation that specifies which crops you can legally use to make fuel which are as far as I know all Food Crops */Facepalm*. Because of this and other reason's I realised it was time for an Upheaval of Britain's current Political system, America could probably use a similar upheaval but I wouldn't suggest it as you could rightfully point out being a UK citizen I don't know enough about America as a whole blah blah blah...
Oh and an argument against saying "Of course Big oil companies are against it they would go out of business" Why can't they use their vast fortunes to start Farming Bio-fuel especially a type of plant that grows well in arid (impossible to use for food crops) soil *drum roll* The Jatropha plant! Apart from them being incredibly thirsty plants they seem to be a good solution to Bio-fuel vs Fossil Fuel.
{Edit: spelling errors)