Should I get Aion?

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Kris015

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I've been following Aion for a long time now (I heard the grinding got a lot better). The armor and weapon designs are so fucking sweet..
I've tried the trial, but it wasn't enough since I barely got to play it.

I should tell you that I'm a very casual gamer. I played Rift and Champions Online to max level and stopped since I wasn't very pleased with the endgame (I might play Rift again though). Also played Guild Wars for a very long time.

So.. What are the pros and cons? Anything I should know about it? Should I wait for a sale or something?
 

Kruxxor

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Back when I used to play Aion it was a complete grind-fest.

I got to level 25 (the level you had to be to do PVP) and got bored and quit.

It's very pretty, but you'll be better off going for a better MMO.
 

Kris015

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Kruxxor said:
Back when I used to play Aion it was a complete grind-fest.

I got to level 25 (the level you had to be to do PVP) and got bored and quit.

It's very pretty, but you'll be better off going for a better MMO.
I read a re-review of the game, and they said the grind was mostly gone and the game had improved greatly since launch! So that kinda got me thinking it was worth trying now.
 

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I didn't breach level 22 before the endless grinding got to me. I ended up trapped in some spring-esque area that was like 25 metres square. All the enemies and quests for the previous area too low-exp to be worth anything, the ones for the area ahead too hard (and the people, on the server I was on at least, such inconsiderate assholes to not bother with a party unless you have friends or a guild) and no quests for the area I was actually in. There were only two enemies to grind endlessly against, too.
 

Kruxxor

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Kris015 said:
Kruxxor said:
Back when I used to play Aion it was a complete grind-fest.

I got to level 25 (the level you had to be to do PVP) and got bored and quit.

It's very pretty, but you'll be better off going for a better MMO.
I read a re-review of the game, and they said the grind was mostly gone and the game had improved greatly since launch! So that kinda got me thinking it was worth trying now.
To be honest, if you played the free trial and are still unsure, the it might not be the game for you.
 

Kris015

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bahumat42 said:
id suggest waiting for guild wars 2
it looks to be real innovation for the mmorpg genre
I most certainly am! I plan on pre-ordering it sometime soon :)
 

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When I tried Aion it was right after launch and it was the second grindiest game Ive ever played (the first being Everquest). I got quite tired of it and quite partly because I didnt like the style of PVP and partly because I hated the grind. It may be worth a look but if you did the trial and didnt like it then I think it may not be for you. Then again a single month of play might change your mind. Like all MMO's its hard to recomend one way or the other since I dont know you
 

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I played it about a month ago during the 'Come back week' for people who cancelled their subs, and I have to say it's changed since I last played it. It feels far less grindy and it just looks and plays so smoothly.

Plus they have just released a new PvP focused expansion/patch.

So if you can pick it up cheap, do it. It's a good game but sadly not for me.
 

Kris015

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Appleshampoo said:
I played it about a month ago during the 'Come back week' for people who cancelled their subs, and I have to say it's changed since I last played it. It feels far less grindy and it just looks and plays so smoothly.

Plus they have just released a new PvP focused expansion/patch.

So if you can pick it up cheap, do it. It's a good game but sadly not for me.
Finally, someone who played it recently! Thank you :)
I regret not buying it when it was 5 euros on Steam :/
 

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Yeah i bought it off steam about a month or two ago for £3-ish, played it and loved it.

I've played a lot of mmos and its not nearly as big a grindfest as some others i could mention and i found the gameplay very enjoyable. However i had to quit due to lack of money and the desire to pass my university course.
 

Kris015

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obscurumlux01 said:
TLDR: Don't bother, its a waste of your time and its not meant for casual gaming at all, whatsoever.

Long version below:

PvP balance is nonexistent, the 'SpritMaster' class is basically a WoW warlock class on steroids with 4 different fear abilities (at max level) that add up to at least a half-minute of leaving your opponent completely helpless with zero ability whatsoever to do anything about it. There's no 'trinket' to 'get out of jail free' here. If you talk to those who play SpiritMaster they just troll with comments saying 'L2P' or 'GTFO' or w/e. The only viable in-game method to counter this is to glide at the proper moment (very difficult to pull off, especially with 3 other fears ready to go), to stack metric tons of magic resist (unfeasible since it gimps you badly in everything else and makes you useless against melee classes), or to try to stun them before they can get the cast off (better hope that they don't have cast-speed gloves or equipment). Its a clusterfuck, they recently gimped rifting horribly to the point where hundreds of thousands of people quit retail and either went to private servers or uninstalled Aion altogether. Private servers are a mixed bag and full of the usual bugginess and broken AI/scripting.

The grind is still there, its just been mitigated with more repeatable quests and more locations to do questing. Ignore the person who said they had to grind 2 mobs in an area, they obviously failed to read the quest text or bother to notice the quests around them. There are quests of every level and area and it flows very smoothly. You'll just end up quest-grinding rather than mob-grinding.

Manastone socketing. Basically imagine WoW's gem socketing but with up to 6 sockets per piece of gear and with a higher % of failure with each additional gem after the first, that's Aion's sytem in a nutshell. Oh, and if you fail, then ALL of those manastones go poof, gone. A stupid carryover from typical Asian MMO development crap. I've known people that have quit the game over this, after wasting 100+ million Kinah (in-game currency) just trying to socket items only to have the last one fail and wipe out all the rest of them. You can do manastone socketing from as soon as you start playing. You can also replace existing manastones after paying a fee to remove the existing ones (though removed ones are destroyed, naturally). There's 'combined' 2-handed weapons like staves and greatswords and such that have up to 12+ manastone slots so it gets very frustrating losing everything so easily.

Suffice it to say that there is no challenge in the game with PvE (most bosses are just tank and spank or absurdly odd tactics requiring a very specific ability of one class that you better hope you brought along or else you fail the fight, period). Example of this is the 'Nimba' fight (I forget the full name) in Draupnir Cave where he'll start self-healing to be near-unstoppable unless you happen to have a cleric with a specific stigma stone equipped that can debuff him to reduce his healing by 50% and make him killable. While some very expertly-geared groups can just burn him down, its still incredibly difficult without that ability. You got to not only find a cleric but find one that has it equipped and willing to sacrifice another very useful ability in order to have this one obscure pvp-only ability to use ONE TIME against this ONE BOSS. Yes, Aion's PvE is shit.

Oh, and you gotta love the 'PvPvE' instances where you have two groups of opposite factions PvPing against each other with mobs spawning all around trying to kill everyone so it just ends up being a giant clusterfuck, again. End-game fortress raids are just all about zergs. Giant zerg swoops in, settles into position, and then spams skills till things die. Opposing faction comes in slightly later and takes potshots at anyone who has low hp (you can see the exact hp of your opponent) or who strays too far from the main group, or whoever has low health. Continue until either defenders make a charge to nuke the healers (and wipe the attacking group) or until the attackers succeed and chase the remaining defenders to their death.

So yeah...avoid Aion. I'd say if you want a good non-commiting MMO you can try Sword2 (also known as Sword of the New World or Granado Espada) which basically is a pseudo-RTS/RPG hybrid that lets you afk while your 3 characters automatically attack, chase enemies around, and heal. And yeah, controlling 3 characters at once really is pretty nice, lots of strategy and each class has its own quirks which balance out against most other classes. Some are weak against one or two other classes, strong against at least one other, and average to the rest.

Then there's Forsaken World, a WoW-alike that breaks the mold with fairly nice typically-Asian features like a robust pet training/combat system (which WoW recently decided to implement in their next expansion, lol), guild wars, PvP servers that let you kill anyone at any time for any reason or no reason (pure open PvP), anti-farming mechanics, and quite a bit more. I've had an on-again, off-again relationship with FW and its still much better than most Asian MMOs. Not the best, but its up there. The best parts of it when compared to every other F2P game is that the cash shop doesn't sell anything overpowering or for significant PvP advantage, you can use an in-game NPC to trade in-game currency for premium cash-shop currency (meaning you can earn premium currency in significant amounts through purely in-game activities), and you can trade cash shop items among players or sell them in the very full-featured Auction House.

Oddly, things we take for granted in WoW are pure luxuries in the F2P gaming circle, so the fact that FW has those features is a nice plus. Drawbacks I'd say is that there's a huge mana grind (better buy tons of potions), stupid 'stamina system' that limits how much you can gather/craft per day (deters farming but only pisses off the playerbase), and one annoying crash bug that happens if you perform a specific action (combining pets) that can only be bypassed by changing channels.

That's way too much to read, so just Google for a TLDR, lol. :p
As I said: I already played Guild Wars for like 3 years or so. I've never played WoW further then the trial (So I have no idea about the manastone thing you were talking about :p I did get the fact that it has a high % of failure.. Just not the WoW reference). I was in the Forsaken World beta and stopped playing cuz it was really confusing and I just didn't get it at all.

How long has it been since you played Aion last?
 

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Kris015 said:
I've been following Aion for a long time now (I heard the grinding got a lot better). The armor and weapon designs are so fucking sweet..
I've tried the trial, but it wasn't enough since I barely got to play it.

I should tell you that I'm a very casual gamer. I played Rift and Champions Online to max level and stopped since I wasn't very pleased with the endgame (I might play Rift again though). Also played Guild Wars for a very long time.

So.. What are the pros and cons? Anything I should know about it? Should I wait for a sale or something?
Hold out until Guild Wars, if you really need something, give Star Wars the Old Republic a go for a bit.
 

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I am a rather casual player, and generally solo. I loved Aion until around level 30, and then it was entirely PVP, and it was not optional. I dont like PVP, so that turned me off of what was otherwise a great game, but if you enjoy it, then AIon is well worth it
 

Lt. Vinciti

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No

The entire game is a lie and a Korean based grind fest...


I recall that game being able to say I could fly...I made it to the...Aeva? (Not the black faction but the white one) and made it to the lil secondary area...yeah you could fly there...everywhere else was a god damn float along like a damn dandelion seed in the wind...good.

I made it to 20 or so....the PvP was...okish...if you werent deploying...but waiting to assrape the sorry sob to walk thru the portal....


Played a warrior....I did enjoy the combat system tho of combos...


Go play RIFT just dont give your money to Blizzard!
 

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run as fast as u can aion in it self is a fun game but ncfail is horrible they can and will ban u with no good reason what so ever.
i was a lvl 55 sin with some of the best gear in game i put a lot of hours in it only to get banned for having played with a person(i dont know who) that cheated.
aion is dying so there is no point in playing. if u like that kind of game wait for ArchAge its made by XL games that is run by jake song a former ncsoft dev. but left them to start up on his own.

i was lvl 55 with some of the best gear in game i put a lot of hours in it only to get banned for having played with a person(i dont know who) that cheated.