Should I preorder Bioshock infinite despite the controversy of Aliens?

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Brainwreck

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Whenever you buy a game, make sure you get the version with the useless plastic shit and "art books". Maybe you'll even get a lunch box. Or a mug. Or a mousepad!
That's some goddamn bang for your buck.

But I digress. You can literally set your money on fire and it would not make any sort of difference to me in any way whatsoever.
 

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Well Aliens was a shitty game in degelopment Hell, this is a Bioshock game being developed by Irrational, and not being worked on by the team that did Bioshock 2 (which sucked).
I really am alone in liking Bioshock 2, aren't I? Then again, I didn't finish the original (though I knew about "WYK" before I even touched the game) and I fully admit Bioshock 2's story was utter crap. However, on a gameplay level I found the gameplay to be very good, though it was usually too easy even on Hard and a couple Plasmids were gamebreaking (Decoy being a prime example). The atmosphere was great as well, imo, and exploration was still encouraged / rewarded.

As for the Multiplayer, it was very "meh" and needed a lot of work. Fun for a bit, but got old fast. The grind needed to unlock the good weapons was also a major PITA and simply did not positively contribute to the gameplay even slightly.

On Topic: I'd recommend against it. With formerly-beloved game devs releasing widely-considered crappy or lackluster games left and right within the past five years (Infinity Ward, DICE, Gearbox, Blizzard, Bioware, Capcom, arguably Bethesda, Square Enix, the list goes on), I wouldn't chance them getting your money before you know if they dropped the ball or not.
 

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http://www.greenmangaming.com/bundles/

I'll just leave this here. And uh the game's looking good and is part of an established series still your opinion of course.
 

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While I do think Bioshock is a pretty safe bet, especially after all the promotional material they've released, it's still a gamble. I generally choose not to preorder a game these days unless it's confirmed to be fairly limited in numbers like the Persona 4 Golden Special Edition was. I'll be honest though, I preordered because I am looking forward to the game and because I wanted the bonus TF2 items. So sue me.
 

Tanakh

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DAMN YOU!

Now i am in the fence too, on one hand x-com for free and I have the money, on the other I don't have the time and my backlog catalog is humongeous....

Fuck it, I won't, but if i was to play it on release would order it in a heartbeat.
 

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If you are so bothered by the prospect of losing the money on a preorder on a game that has a good chance of being great to excellent, then don't bother preordering, and wait. This situation is reminding me the whole herd effect of Diablo 3, except this time everybody is cautious at throwing money down. If you are this cautious and asking a third party who haven't played the game, then you aren't looking forward to Bioshock Infinite period. Just my take on it.

If it means anything just about all the journalist outlets have played the first 3-4 hours and said it wasn't a disappointment, so if anything it's not an Aliens repeat.

The essence of preordering used to be that the game in question was a must have that you just have to play at day 1, and you have waited for it for years. Now that meaning has been watered down.
 

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I hardly ever pre order any games since I'm more that guy that sits on the side lines and watched for reviews and other opinions along with other research to determine whether or not the game is truly worth buying.

And after seeing Colonial Marines tank so badly it shows pre ordering isn't always the best idea and in itself feels more like a gamble so I'd probably wait and see how Infinite goes.
 

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You live in europe, so you can do what I do: Wait for reviews by American critics (who get the game first), and then decide if you want the game for full price. You can get the pre-order and all the goodies on Steam until the last minute anyway.
 

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Assassin Xaero said:
This gaming community reminds me of airport security. One guy had a bomb in his shoe, now we all have to take our shoes off. It is a bit ridiculous.
This.

"Oh man, one game was hotly preordered and hyped to all Hell and turned out to be awful! CANCEL ALL PREORDERS FOREVER!"

It's your money, your time, your decision, OP. "Aliens: Colonial Marines" is in no way, shape or form an indication of some kind of publishing or pre-ordering zeitgeist of the industry. It isn't because one game was utter shit that another, from a completely different couple of publisher and developer, will be just as bad.

If you're *that* antsy about it, though - I wouldn't pre-order. Mostly to save yourself useless anxiety.
 

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I'd be getting the game for half the price and I can't decide whether that is worth the risk.
That's one way to save money. A better way to save money is to wait for reviews and not pay for any stinkers. It's better because you'll be rewarding good companies but not the bad ones
 

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Honestly I am going to pre-order the Premium Edition. I've always been a sucker for art books and tchotchkes. And hey some additional weapons/in-game currency isn't too bad either. I have never been disappointed in any of my previous pre-orders. Granted the fiasco that is A:CM has soured pre-ordering in my eyes a bit but I know that Irrational will deliver on this game.

All we can hope for is that this leads to gamers being a bit more cautious with their wallets so developers can't try and blitz a game past us to try and recoup their losses before word comes out that it's utter crap.
 

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IamLEAM1983 said:
Assassin Xaero said:
This gaming community reminds me of airport security. One guy had a bomb in his shoe, now we all have to take our shoes off. It is a bit ridiculous.
This.

"Oh man, one game was hotly preordered and hyped to all Hell and turned out to be awful! CANCEL ALL PREORDERS FOREVER!"

It's your money, your time, your decision, OP. "Aliens: Colonial Marines" is in no way, shape or form an indication of some kind of publishing or pre-ordering zeitgeist of the industry. It isn't because one game was utter shit that another, from a completely different couple of publisher and developer, will be just as bad.

If you're *that* antsy about it, though - I wouldn't pre-order. Mostly to save yourself useless anxiety.
The gaming communities reaction is rather understandable, people should be cautious about purchases they make. I would be more worried if the Aliens fiasco went by and nobody just gave a shit. Besides the caution for the time being is limited to waiting for reviews instead of buying everything day one. I know the comparison between something like Aliens, and Bioshock Infinite stinks, but well you know pre-ordering stuff is based on liking pre-release footage, and for even one developer/publisher to have the balls to lie with that kind of stuff is intolerable. No it's not a conspiracy, but this conduct has made us aware that the possibility truly exists for complete and utter false advertisement.

(WarZ fucking aside)
 

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Assassin Xaero said:
This gaming community reminds me of airport security. One guy had a bomb in his shoe, now we all have to take our shoes off. It is a bit ridiculous.
Ive been saying dont preorder for a long time and giving the same reasons that people are spouting for ACMs fiasco. So Im happy people finally are seeing the smart side of the argument. Hopefully it'll start making people really examine their consumer practices and buy smartly
 

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Windcaler said:
Assassin Xaero said:
This gaming community reminds me of airport security. One guy had a bomb in his shoe, now we all have to take our shoes off. It is a bit ridiculous.
Ive been saying dont preorder for a long time and giving the same reasons that people are spouting for ACMs fiasco. So Im happy people finally are seeing the smart side of the argument. Hopefully it'll start making people really examine their consumer practices and buy smartly
If you are saying the smart side is to not preorder, that is rather arrogant, since there really isn't a smart side on either side. When I preorder games, I'm going to buy the game anyway, so why not just put the money down now? I'm not going to wait for reviews (can't think of a single game where I read a review and decided not to buy it), and my opinion about games usually differs from other people, so what they say usually means nothing.
 

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ohnoitsabear said:
Personally, I'm against preorders, simply because there's so little to gain from them. It's not like it's difficult to find a game on launch day, and I have yet to see a preorder bonus that I would actually go out of my way to get, or that shouldn't just be in the game to begin with. So why deal with the risks of preordering something if there's nothing to gain from doing so? Plus, there's the whole encouraging bad business practices thing.
Pre-ordering on Steam might end up giving you a free copy of the original Bioshock and a free copy of X-com.
Over here Bioschock Infinite costs ?50 to pre-order, X-Com also costs ?50 and Bioshock costs ?20. So if I might gain ?70 worth of games if I pre-order it. Also quite a few TF2 items to go with that (which can be traded for more games).

Nothing to gain from a pre-order? I've got to disagree there.
 

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I do enjoy the gaming hive mind and how it works. One bad thing happens and a few people comment on it,and suddenly the entire site rallies to the cause and acts like it's been an issue all along, and that they are enlightened. One bad game does not mean preordering is bad. If the game ends up being bad, then so be it. If the game is good (or great), then nothing is lost. A few bad apples does not make the whole thing bad. Especially if the bonuses are good, and even more so if you are buying a physical copy.
 

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Assassin Xaero said:
Windcaler said:
Assassin Xaero said:
This gaming community reminds me of airport security. One guy had a bomb in his shoe, now we all have to take our shoes off. It is a bit ridiculous.
Ive been saying dont preorder for a long time and giving the same reasons that people are spouting for ACMs fiasco. So Im happy people finally are seeing the smart side of the argument. Hopefully it'll start making people really examine their consumer practices and buy smartly
If you are saying the smart side is to not preorder, that is rather arrogant, since there really isn't a smart side on either side. When I preorder games, I'm going to buy the game anyway, so why not just put the money down now? I'm not going to wait for reviews (can't think of a single game where I read a review and decided not to buy it), and my opinion about games usually differs from other people, so what they say usually means nothing.
There isnt a smart side to either side of the debate? No. Im afraid I have to disagree with you. You see by choosing not to gamble on the chance a game will be good youre loosing nothing worthwhile. You can still buy the game later. You can still buy it day 1 if you want to. However the reward for being patient is learning whether your money will be well spent or not. You can make that decision in a variety of ways and reviews are just 1 of them. Personally if I cant play the game at a friends place I watch a lets play/walkthrough and make judgements based on what I see and whether I believe the gameplay suits my personal tastes. Being patient and informing yourself on the product your buying before you buy it is smart

Im unsure why anyone would blindly put their money down on a product they know little to nothing about. It seems like a very irresponsible consumer practice to me. Do you do that with other products like firearms or cars?
 

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Personally I wouldn't. Totally against supporting the whole pre-order pre-orders nonsense they're trying to pull.

But if your getting it for PS3 you do get your moneys worth by getting Bioshock 1, plus this is Irrational making the game, not Gearbox.
It's your money you decide.
 

JagermanXcell

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Personally I wouldn't. Totally against supporting the whole pre-order pre-orders nonsense they're trying to pull.

But if your getting it for PS3 you do get your moneys worth by getting Bioshock 1, plus this is Irrational making the game, not Gearbox.
It's your money you decide.