Should organ donation be manditory?

[Kingsnake661]

no, nor should it be opt out either for several reasons

1: it infringes on individual rights, personal choice and is unethical
2: there are far too many people on the planet at any rate (7 billion and rising)[/B]
3: why should someone who's specific organs are shutting down be more deserving of a second chance than anyone else who is terminally ill? and why should that be through taking someone elses organs?
4: the double standard/hypocrisy involved, as its essentially state sponsored and enforced grave robbing/organ trafficking
5: even if i am dead it's still my body and i want it to be treated with dignity, taking another persons property without their permission (regardless of whether they're living or deceased) is a crime, theft to be precise, and if we don't own our body what do we own?
6: makes no allowance for peoples religious or philosophical beliefs regarding maintaining the integrity of the body
7: is just plain arbitrary
8: it is never wise to make assumptions on someones part in regards to their final wishes that they may have not communicated prior to their demise, benefit of the doubt is key

Id be interested to see if you still had that attitude if you or somone close to you is slowly dying and waiting for a heart/kidney

also I think if you care so much about what hapens to your body after you die THEN you should make it very clear

otherwise...taking religion out of the equasion, your dead why do you care?

Facing ones convections is never easy. Some would still feel the same, and hold true to there belifs, others would faulter, I'd like to think i have the strength of charater to actively live by my convections. And I hope i never have to test that either. *shrug*

Irreguardless, while you correctly highlight the plight of the family in need, your ignoring the plight of the family that just lost a loved one, and may well also be having there loved ones wishes or relgious viewpoints trampled on in the process. What of them? This is not a question or situatuion with an easy, or even right answer.

Manditory? No. To many people have vaild reason against it. (religious, personal beilfs.) I don't belive in trampling on them. But I wouldn't be against an opt out program. If your religious belifs aren't strong enough to actively act on, IE, you opt out, then, well, there you go. If your belifs aren't strong enough to motivate action, then, well, they aren't core values to you now are they?

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

I honestly wouldn't mind this.

And opt-in still allows this.

That's the problem. It's not about selfishness or selflessness, but personal(or guardian's) choice.

 

[LuckyClover95]

I like the idea of an opt-out system. I'm religious, but I don't believe donating organs is wrong (Jesus tried to heal people and we should try to be like Jesus, right? Anyway.) and I carry a donar card and have since when I was about 10 and my friends brother died and they donated his organs. However, if you believe it is wrong you are entitled to your belief.
Also, guy on the first page said he couldn't think of any religions that would ban it, but I know about half of Christianity and all of Islam does.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

I would say on your 16th birthday a mandatory clown should come to your house, give you an organ-shaped cake and ask you if you want to donate or not.

Sir, I'd like to give you a medal for actually managing to creep the hell out of me.

Would the Clown look like this?

 

[NezumiiroKitsune]

No fucking way. f y'all think that then donating money to the poor should be mandatory. A kidney takes 10 years from your life, and makes it harder for you to piss, and limits the amount of times you can get drunk.

Are there any long-term risks?

There is a small possibility of a slight rise in blood pressure and excess protein in your urine. However studies have shown that there is no long-term effect on the health of the donor or your remaining kidney.

Am I at greater risk of developing kidney failure?

You are at no greater risk of developing kidney failure after donating than anyone in the general population.

Will it shorten my lifespan?

Studies have shown that donors live longer than the average population. This is because donors are selected on the basis of good health and are thoroughly screened prior to donation.

Will I have to change my lifestyle after donating?

No. You should lead a normal healthy life as before.

Will donating my kidney affect a future pregnancy or fathering a child?

The small amount of data available shows that, having donated one kidney, there is no evidence to suggest an increased risk of complications during pregnancy. A man?s fertility will not be affected.

http://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/ukt/how_to_become_a_donor/living_kidney_donation/questions_and_answers.jsp

However they don't mean live transplant. They mean donation solely after brain death.

 

[Alien Mole]

I honestly wouldn't mind this.

And opt-in still allows this.

That's the problem. It's not about selfishness or selflessness, but personal(or guardian's) choice.

How is it about that? The way I see it, either system allows an exactly equal amount of personal choice. It's just that in an opt-out system, 'can't be arsed' is, as a choice, beneficial to your fellow man.

 

[Weslebear]

My shit's mine, I'm tight in life and I am tight in death.

Someone would only get an organ if I was still alive (So I can consent or not depending on the details of why they need the organ, no alcoholic bastard is going to waste my kidneys etc), they were very close to me and it wouldn't kill me to lose it.

 

[GamemasterAnthony]

Rather interesting that I was watching MovieBob's review of "Repo Men" when I saw this thread in the Most Recent list...

Short answer: NO! The problem I see with making organ donation mandatory not only falls on personal rights, whether we are talking civil or religious, but it also creates a very scary problem as well. The problem being that as soon as you are forced into donation, you are soon seen as nothing more than a potential source of viable parts for other people...even before you are in any condition where you no longer need them.

Seriously...picture that scenario if you will, as it might actually be used as a screenplay for a movie. You are now required to donate and suddenly right in the middle of just walking from here to the bank, some random person comes up and asks for some part of you because their relative is dying. Unfortunately, it suddenly becomes an even worse situation as you don't have a say in the matter. You are hauled off to have a kidney removed because you have no choice but to donate one.

Or even worse...mandatory donation could create a black market of the blackest kind for organs. Basically where people are quite literally killed just so their parts could be harvested and used. Could you imagine THAT sick scenario?!?

So, like I said...no. Organ donation should NOT be made mandatory under any situation. The human race deserves better than to be seen as nothing more than spare parts for other members of the human race.

CAPTCHA: Theadish shame.

Heh...shame indeed.

 

[Shio]

No. My body, my organs. When I'm dead, my will has first rights to decide what happens to my body, followed by my family.

I don't care if someone needs them. That's not my problem.

Wow.

You're just a terrible, selfish person. I could see your point of view up until that last line. I imagine you'd care if you were slowly dying of organ failure because the it would be your problem. Do you really care for others so little?

I personally believe it should be an opt-out system. I agree that it is someone's right to maintain their organs after death, but what purpose does that really serve? In death you could give others life. Not just one person, many people. If you really cared so much about your rights to withhold your organs then you should be able to cobble together the will power to announce it to your doctor.

Hey, if you want the government to own your body until you inform them otherwise, go ahead. I however don't.

And to use someone else's metaphor:

"London Zoo is looking for some fresh meat to feed their animals and they'd quite like your corpse once the organs have been removed. You'd be helping to feed some animals that will die without your help, so we've decided that if you don't want your corpse fed to the hungry tigers, all you have to do is visit London Zoo once before you die.

That's only fair, isn't it? I mean, you wouldn't want those poor animals to die - and you're not using the rest of your body, are you?"

That's cool, yeah? You can opt out if you want. Just go to London Zoo.

Hmm? What's that? You don't want to? Our views on what is right and what is wrong are different? You don't think you should have to go to the Zoo to tell them not to feed your remains to the lions? Interesting how an opt-out system is fine when it's your opt-out system.

 

[Canid117]

I would say on your 16th birthday a mandatory clown should come to your house, give you an organ-shaped cake and ask you if you want to donate or not.

Sir, I'd like to give you a medal for actually managing to creep the hell out of me.

Would the Clown look like this?

They float!

OP: I dunno enough about organ donation to say yay or nay.

 

[Cheesus333]

We really don't have true control or possession of a lot of things in this world. Most of what we own, from the land we live on to the clothes on our back, we get or borrow from someone else. The government even takes your money in the name of benefitting the whole country. There's not a great deal of things outside of our own bodies and minds that we can hold firm and total ownership of.

But please, for the love of God, don't take away our organs unless we give you them. There's a line that you just don't cross with a dead man's possessions, so if he says that he wants his corpse to remain intact, respect his wishes.

I'm not against organ donation whatsoever, and I intend to, um, 'recycle' most of my own when I'm gone, but I completely understand if someone else doesn't and I wouldn't try to force them into it.

The organs of the dead should revert, automatically, to the state (and thus be distributed to the health service in an unbiased fashion) upon death. No opt out, No excuses, Any qualms you have with Organ donation are fortunately trumped by "People will die if you don't".

After the funeral The body should also become state property as cadavers are severely in-demand medical training tools. You may as well be burying medical text books when you bury bodies.

This is quite a disturbing post, to be honest... especially the comparison between dead human beings and books. I wouldn't want to go through life knowing that what I leave behind will be the shell of myself for learning doctors to have a poke at. Sure, volunteering yourself for medical research and such is fine if that's what you want to do, but I don't think we should just assume cooperation of the terminal or deceased.

 

[ultimateownage]

However, are you saying that it should be mandatory after death or during life? Call me selfish, but during life I want to keep my organs intact.

This is what I first thought:
Probably posted by someone else, but oh well.

 

[Paradoxrifts]

Making organ donation mandatory seems more than a little draconian when all you really need to do is create a meaningful incentive for people to sign up for organ donation in the first place. The first step would be to place the potential organ donors themselves on top of the list of those people who would be first in line to receive an organ should they find themselves in need of one. Give people with more years listed as organ donors seniority on the list over people who've been signed up for less and you've created conditions where you'd have to be stupid not to sign up for organ donation.

As for people willing to receive organs when they need them but not sign up to donate them when they don't? If they're not below the age of majority, then I say fuck em'.

 

[RabbidKuriboh]

sweet christ the idiocy in this thread is painfull

of course organ donation should be mandatory! people who object to it are completely illogical and selfish who would take someone else's organ to save their on ass in a heartbeat

 

[C95J]

Although I myself have no problems with donating organs, I believe that a person has the sole rights to their own body, so if they don't want to donate, they don't have to.

 

[DarkRyter]

As much as I wish it were the case, that wouldn't be right.

I know there are people who need and deserve organs. And I approve of anyone who will give them that chance.

But I understand that there are those who don't want to save lives, whether they're dogmatic followers of a certain faith, or are mere misanthropes.

Having the freedom to do good also means having the freedom not to.

 

[Jakub324]

I agree. Aside form anything else, it's just selfish to keep something you can't use, unless you're religious. I agree that there should be an opt-out system.

 

[Tib088]

I have a doner card, and I think more people should carry them

 

[UnendingLight]

It may sound like paranoia, but I'd rather not be killed because someone wants my organs.