Should the atomic bombs been dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

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Zephirius

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The Atom bombs were bad, but they always overshadow the firebombings of Tokyo, which included the most destructive bombing raid of all time. Half of the city was annihilated throughout the war. I suppose the Atom bombs would've been much worse had they not been just barely developed. The power of today's nukes doesn't compare to the "new-fangled" nukes of WW2.
 

Faeanor

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I think that it was the logical choice at the time. And it's also good that they were dropped. Hopefully we'll never have to detonate a weapon like that in war again. Here's to hoping.
 

Lullabye

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Skarin said:
On July 27, 1945, the Allied powers requested Japan in the Potsdam Declaration to surrender unconditionally, or destruction would continue. However, the military did not consider surrendering under such terms, partially even after US military forces dropped two atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki on August 6 and 9, and the Soviet Union entered the war against Japan on August 8.
On August 14, however, Emperor Showa finally decided to surrender unconditionally.


A pretty much straightforward question, I would like to view every ones opinions on the matter. Think not completely direct and also think about the effect that it has on the survivors children, if they would have surrendered.
I think one bomb would have sufficed, but japan was so damn stubborn.
(I mean that in a good way, sort of.)
 

ChaosGenesis

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Does it really matter at this point? Can't exactly call mulligan and have a do over.

Maybe the display of firepower was the only thing that stopped France from unleashing their secret underground super-soldier military and ultimately taking over the world.
 

Lullabye

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Zephirius said:
The Atom bombs were bad, but they always overshadow the firebombings of Tokyo, which included the most destructive bombing raid of all time. Half of the city was annihilated throughout the war. I suppose the Atom bombs would've been much worse had they not been just barely developed. The power of today's nukes doesn't compare to the "new-fangled" nukes of WW2.
atom bombs were and are not bad. the people using them and commissioning them to be built tend to fall under that category. guns don't kill people, people kill people.(and somtimes natural disasters but im talkin war.)
I saw the vids of the hydrogen bomb. mile and a half wide crater? holy fuck! google earth the spot, you'll see. ocean where there should be land.
 

Low Frost

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Yes.
In open war, there is no such thing as an option to terrible to use. It's only later, when the looming threat of the conflict has passed, that people entertain questions of "What could of happened?". Often these people had nothing to do with the battles, were not risking theie lives for their countries, and ultimately, are in no real position to lay judgement upon others.
 

jsnod25

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in short, yes it was needed to cause the end of the war. The goal was not to kill as many people as possible, it was to elimite infrastructure and dissable their ability to porduce more weapons.

Also for those of you who think that it was a war crime dont fully understand the situation at all. Firstly we had to respond to the attack at pearl harbor which was dastardly in and of itself. Secondly we had bombers that were droping leaflets for days, hundreds of thousands of them, tell the people to leave the town and evacuate the area. Not to mention we told the Japanese that they would face terrible destruction if they did not surrender, but how do you describe somthing that the world hasnt seen yet, so i dont think they understood what we were capable of. Lastly the germans were also in the process of building the atomic bomb as well, but if it werent for Niels Henrik David Bohr, the german jewish physisist who defected ot avoid being killed because he was jewish, came to america and finished the much needed mathmatical equations needed to make the bomb work. His counter part was NOT jewish and was still in germany working on the bomb for the germans, and did all that he could to slow it down and prevent them from having it.

It was just a miraculous series of events that lead to the US having it first, and it wasnt easy for the president to make that desision either, so to say he should have been tried for a war crime is rediculous. If the germans had control of it first, the world as we know it would be drastically different. And if the bomb wasnt used to end the war on BOTH fronts, then millions more lives would have been lost.

You people who dissagree are the kind of people who criticise hunters and could never kill an animal, but you run to mcdonalds and eat a hamburger without thinking twice... hypocracy and ingnorance at its finest.
 

Lullabye

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ChaosGenesis said:
Does it really matter at this point? Can't exactly call mulligan and have a do over.

Maybe the display of firepower was the only thing that stopped France from unleashing their secret underground super-soldier military and ultimately taking over the world.
of course it mattters.does the phrase " learn from our mistakes" ring a bell?
I wish france took over the world. recently i heard that they have the highest quality of living. anyway its better than america taking the world over, they don't understand what it entails.
 

sonidraw

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There were several reasons for dropping the A-Bombs, not just one. One of those reasons that I remember of the top of my head is that the Soviet Union was expected to invade Japan in the near future, and to prevent that, WW2 had to be ended quickly. Otherwise, there was some threat of Japan being divided like Korea and Germany (or worse: becoming 100% occupied by the USSR).

And then think about this: the number of lives taken and the property damage caused by the A-Bombs is only a fraction of the number of lives taken and the property damage caused by all the other bombs dropped by the Americans on Japan. What makes the A-Bomb so sensational is that it's one bomb, one explosion. It's more symbolic than practical. An attempt at inspiring awe and fear rather than dealing physical damage.

Which makes you wonder why we even really need big nukes. Small nukes or conventional weapons work better in the practical application of war.
 

Kellerb

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just plain no. the war was basically over anyway, they just HAD to test it....

its a monument to human stupidity.
 

Masterthief

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Wounded Melody said:
Yes.
See: Nanking, China
For that atrocity alone I would have agreed with the bombing. let alone everything else.
So to teach people that killing is wrong we should kill thousands of innocent civilians and ruin the lives of hundreds of unborn children?
I like you logic.