Should the death sentence be used more?

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New Troll said:
Eye For An Eye justice, with extreme prejudice. I'm all for it.

I believe executions are much more economical than life-imprisonment. I could be wrong, but have yet to see otherwise. Course I'm also not a big fan of the prison system. Turning criminals into sadists before releasing them back among the world. Sure there's those who do in fact turn thier life around, but they seem to be the minority. Just not worth it in my opinion.
So... you are all for taking a life if to cut costs?

That... isn't exactly the most... humane, thing to do.

Also, criminal reform.

Plus, you would kill those that would reform.
 

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meowchef said:
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meowchef said:
Every single time a person is convicted of rape or murder.
But, in the former, you would be sentencing them to a fate worse than the crime.
Not necessarily. They destroyed at least one life... you destroy one life.
An Eye For An Eye isn't exactly the best way to go about things. :/

Plus, there are those that put such a horrible experience behind them, therefore, you would be killing somebody for an entirely different reason. An unjust reason.

ninjastovall0 said:
LegendaryGamer0 said:
meowchef said:
Every single time a person is convicted of rape or murder.
But, in the former, you would be sentencing them to a fate worse than the crime.
Have you been raped? how do you know its worse? Such a traumatic experience and then having to live with it could be seen as worse than death.
In one, you live.

The other, can be a fate worse than death itself.
 

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When you start using the death sentence on serious crimes except for murder then it starts being a bit blurry when you can use it.
For instance, if I get shot in the head for robbing a bank, isn't it then better to shoot all the hostages and get out as quickly as possible? Leaving no witnesses?
If I get executed for mugging someone, shouldn't I then as well just murder my mugging victim?
See where this is going? Also, to who's set of justice and believes do we adjust to?
A crazy bigot might get into power and make it illegal to be gay and that you would get the death sentence.

Murdering people for however bad their crime is, is not right.
Because the state is taking a life here, you voted the state, so techniclly YOU! Are murdering him. YOU! Are taking a life. It's you! Who took the ability to vote and got these people in.

Good day, and have a nice life.
 

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Personally I'd see death as the better punishment to being locked up for eternity.
But it is really not a subject I put much thought on,
I just think "fuck you parasites" and don't pay attention to the criminals.

(Sure, it might be stupid, but I just can't help but not care for criminals)
 

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meowchef said:
LegendaryGamer0 said:
meowchef said:
Every single time a person is convicted of rape or murder.
But, in the former, you would be sentencing them to a fate worse than the crime.
Not necessarily. They destroyed at least one life... you destroy one life.
Also, who is anyone to decide if a life will be destroyed?

You can never justify it. Ever.

ninjastovall0 said:
LegendaryGamer0 said:
New Troll said:
Eye For An Eye justice, with extreme prejudice. I'm all for it.

I believe executions are much more economical than life-imprisonment. I could be wrong, but have yet to see otherwise. Course I'm also not a big fan of the prison system. Turning criminals into sadists before releasing them back among the world. Sure there's those who do in fact turn thier life around, but they seem to be the minority. Just not worth it in my opinion.
So... you are all for taking a life if to cut costs?

That... isn't exactly the most... humane, thing to do.

Also, criminal reform.

Plus, you would kill those that would reform.
Whats the point of serving out life sentences again? especially 3 or 4 life sentences?
Multiple sentences are shit.

Still not a justification.

ninjastovall0 said:
LegendaryGamer0 said:
In one, you live.

The other, can be a fate worse than death itself.
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The Stonker said:
See where this is going? Also, to who's set of justice and believes do we adjust to?
A crazy bigot might get into power and make it illegal to be gay and that you would get the death sentence.

Murdering people for however bad their crime is, is not right.
Because the state is taking a life here, you voted the state, so techniclly YOU! Are murdering him. YOU! Are taking a life. It's you! Who took the ability to vote and got these people in.
By your logic we shouldn't have any penalties at all. That same logic can be used to say "A crazy bigot might get in power and make it illegal to be gay and that you would be put in jail for the rest of your life, therefore we shouldn't have jails." Personally, I would rather be killed than put in jail.

And I disagree that killing murderers is "not right." It is VERY right to kill people who kill innocents. Eye for an Eye after all.
 

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The Stonker said:
When you start using the death sentence on serious crimes except for murder then it starts being a bit blurry when you can use it.
For instance, if I get shot in the head for robbing a bank, isn't it then better to shoot all the hostages and get out as quickly as possible? Leaving no witnesses?
If I get executed for mugging someone, shouldn't I then as well just murder my mugging victim?
See where this is going? Also, to who's set of justice and believes do we adjust to?
A crazy bigot might get into power and make it illegal to be gay and that you would get the death sentence.

Murdering people for however bad their crime is, is not right.
Because the state is taking a life here, you voted the state, so techniclly YOU! Are murdering him. YOU! Are taking a life. It's you! Who took the ability to vote and got these people in.

Good day, and have a nice life.
Hail To The King, Baby.

 

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The Night Shade said:
Yes it should because criminals would think twice before commiting a crime
Statistics prove you wrong.

Capital Punishment as a deterrent does not work.

Ever.
 

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I don't trust the US justice system to keep people locked up, at all. Considering though that someone can rot on death row for several decades before actually being killed I can't really hold my argument based on that.

The worst of the worst never feel bad about what they did and in the most heinous of crimes yeah, I support the death penalty. Not because I think that's some kind of adequate punishment but because I don't want someone that deranged to continue living be they locked away or not.
If you don't trust the justice system to keep them locked up, do you trust the justice system to even get the right guy?

My grief with the death penalty is that the action is irreversible, and innocent people have been put to death, with their innocence proven only after they died.
 

Bocaj2000

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Is the US the only first world country to still have the death penalty? It is an outdated and backwards method of justice anyway.
 

Iwana Humpalot

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No, death sentence is not a punishment, it's a way to get out of the punishment, also it's really cruel. In prison, the criminal could think about what he did for a good time and learn that what he did was wrong and eventually live a happy normal life when he/she gets out.

And i have heard from alot of sources that executions cost about same amount or even more than many, many, many years in prison.

But i do belive that all the maniacs like mass-murderes should be killed or have rest of his/her lifetime in prison where he/she can't harm anybody.

Edit: Also, what if the guy who was killed by deat penalty didn't actually do the crime and was staged and the police would find this out many years later. It has happened, just horrible..
 

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KeyMaster45 said:
The worst of the worst never feel bad about what they did and in the most heinous of crimes yeah, I support the death penalty. Not because I think that's some kind of adequate punishment but because I don't want someone that deranged to continue living be they locked away or not.
But, then you are making a decision that is no better than what they most likely made.

By that logic, someone who kills people just because they believe said persons are "mentally deranged", can be considered deranged themselves.

You see where I'm going with this, right?
 

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Do two rights make a wrong? Why do we have the right to take away someone's life, (actually two deaths, the fear of waiting decades to be killed, and then actual death) just because they took someone else's away?

Also, the death penalty does not work as a deterrent, it is shown over and over that crime rates slightly increase after an execution.

I want to take a more constructive approach. Let's actually try getting decreases in crime rates instead of killing people, get to the source of the criminal activity.
 

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Bocaj2000 said:
Is the US the only first world country to still have the death penalty? It is an outdated and backwards method of justice anyway.
Which, sadly, doesn't exactly paint a good picture of it's citizens.

Many who support it seem like blood-thirsty psychopaths. :/

Really doesn't help the rest of us. :/
 

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Arizona Kyle said:
rather then wasting tax payer money on some criminal that will never get out of prison
Enforcing the death penalty in California costs the state $250'000'000 per year (yes, that's million), this cost is mostly incurred through legal appeals, maintaining Death Row and arranging said executions. That is substantially more than the cost of every single life prisoner in Cali state prisons.

Death penalty is a bad idea, expensive and if the convicted gets exhonerated later you can't release a corpse. Considering the hole in Cali's finances, you'd think they'd just ditch it.
 

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BioHazardMan said:
Do two rights make a wrong? Why do we have the right to take away someone's life, (actually two deaths, the fear of waiting decades to be killed, and then actual death) just because they took someone else's away?

Also, the death penalty does not work as a deterrent, it is shown over and over that crime rates slightly increase after an execution.

I want to take a more constructive approach. Let's actually try getting decreases in crime rates instead of killing people, get to the source of the criminal activity.
First...



Second...

I can name several, depending on the crime. Theft, can come from poverty.

Assault, can be from any number of things.

Murder... well, that is quite a long list. (O_O)
 

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fix-the-spade said:
Arizona Kyle said:
rather then wasting tax payer money on some criminal that will never get out of prison
Enforcing the death penalty in California costs the state $250'000'000 per year (yes, that million), this cost is mostly incurred through legal appeals, maintaining Death Row and arranging said executions. That is substantially more than the cost of every single life prisoner in Cali state prisons.

Death penalty is a bad idea, expensive and if the convicted gets exhonerated later you can't release a corpse. Considering the hole in Cali's finances, you'd think they'd just ditch it.
Hell, you'd think they'd go for life instead and feed them cheaper food. (O_O)