Should the death sentence be used more?

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Arizona Kyle

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In a day and age where men/women are killing each other, stealing millions of dollars, using drugs to the extreme, selling drugs, and oh so much more. Do you believe that the death sentence should be used more often rather then wasting tax payer money on some criminal that will never get out of prison
 

El Cookio

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Surely, as killing people is a crime, killing someone for committing a crime is a bit..daft? I'd prefer to see harsher schooling, kids get away with far too much at school which perhaps leaves them open to believe that they can get away with what they like out of school? At my school kids used to be smoking, cigarettes and weed, and used to just do what they liked. Plus my school was one of the better ones in the area. Now i'm not old enough to know what it was like to get caned for misbehaving but I know I wouldn't have kept doing stuff wrong if I got caned or worse for it.
 

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The death penalty isn't a deterrent, the way its handled (at least in the US) leavse condemned waiting for decades while all the complicated procedures go through so it's not cheaper than imprisonment anyway, and it discounts the possibility the chance of finding teh person innocent with new evidence (well, after those decades are up).

On the other hand, I have no particular objection to it, I merely think it's not the best approach, not that it is inherently particularly wrong.
 

Jonluw

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Considering that there is no death penalty where I live, and the longest prison sentence is 21 years, no, I do not think the death sentence should be used more.
 

Thaluikhain

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ravensheart18 said:
Let's look at the top 10 executors in 2009:
That really should be per capita if it is to mean anything, though, but I see your point.
 

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El Cookio said:
Surely, as killing people is a crime, killing someone for committing a crime is a bit..daft?
But keeping someone locked up is also a crime, and what do we do with the people who do that?

Honestly, I don't see death as a punishment, I'd rather have serious murders live out their lives miserable in a cell.
 

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Arizona Kyle said:
In a day and age where men/women are killing each other, stealing millions of dollars, using drugs to the extreme, selling drugs, and oh so much more. Do you believe that the death sentence should be used more often rather then wasting tax payer money on some criminal that will never get out of prison
You really want to put people to death for "using drugs to the extreme"? I'd have to kill almost everybody I know.

Anyway it often costs more to execute one prisoner than to keep him alive in prison for the rest of his life. If we're looking at it purely from a cost/benefit perspective by far the best option is to make prisoners do community service so they can give back to the economy. I'm convinced that one of the main reasons the USA got hit so hard by the GFC while Australia sailed through pretty much unscathed is because the USA has such a large percentage of their potential workforce sitting around doing nothing.
 

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I'm not at all religious right now, but I'm pretty certain that:

1. Thou shalt not kill
2. Thou shalt not steal

and a couple of the others are pretty good tenets to live by, universally. Only in cases of extreme self defence should you even consider it.

What's the life-sentence perp going to do to you if you don't kill him? Hurt your feelings?


There are cases every now and then that I may state "those people just need killing" ... and it'd be interesting to simulate a virtual world where they were suddenly just "disappeared" and see how society gets on ... but realistically you wouldn't do it. Cuz otherwise i'd be in so much trouble for mass-murder right now. Death sentences are naught but state sponsored murder.
 
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The death penalty only works on cases where you are 100% certain they committed the crime
so personally i would not advocate its use in any way until there is some form of foolproof lie detector, and if said detector already exists why do we not use it.
but in that eventuality then perhaps the death penalty should be used, but all in all harsher schooling/better prison systems seem to be a more cogent idea
 

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Grouchy Imp said:
Arizona Kyle said:
Do you believe that the death sentence should be used more often
I'm pretty sure most people find that it's used only once...
Ba-dum-bum! Also that is really a more modern sentiment, on many occasions there would be several death sentences delivered... for entertainment value I guess.

OT: Wholly dependent on the crime, though sociopaths and psychopaths shouldn't even have their feet touch the ground on the way between their arrest and execution.
 

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BonsaiK said:
Anyway it often costs more to execute one prisoner than to keep him alive in prison for the rest of his life. If we're looking at it purely from a cost/benefit perspective by far the best option is to make prisoners do community service so they can give back to the economy. I'm convinced that one of the main reasons the USA got hit so hard by the GFC while Australia sailed through pretty much unscathed is because the USA has such a large percentage of their potential workforce sitting around doing nothing.
Er...even in the US, the amount of condemned criminals is still pretty small. Also, the US is a world leader in using inmate labour...possibly due to the privititation of the prison system.

Australis didn't suffer due to the GFC as much as the US because the US caused the problem and it spread outwards, while Australia's biggest export partner, China, wasn't too badly effected.
 

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I think it should be used more, Hell why do inmates on death row take o long to die? Convict them, bring them out back and put a bullet in their head.
 

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Swny Nerdgasm said:
I think it should be used more, Hell why do inmates on death row take o long to die? Convict them, bring them out back and put a bullet in their head.
This, ya could argue that there's a lot of convictions where the person was innocent, but there's even more where it was blatantly obvious that the person was guilty, described it in detail, then laughed about it. Throwing him on death row for 25 years, and using tax payers money to keep him fed, sheltered and healthy is just lame. It's sad that someone in jail could get a toothache, go to the site doctor to get fixed, and sit back in their cell sucking a lollipop by weeks end. But then a tax payer does the same thing, and ends up with a $750 bill at the end cuz he finds out his insurance doesn't cover what he needed done.
 

Mr Cwtchy

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I don't think it should be used at all. Just too much room for error that you can't go back on.
 

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twistedheat15 said:
Swny Nerdgasm said:
I think it should be used more, Hell why do inmates on death row take o long to die? Convict them, bring them out back and put a bullet in their head.
This, ya could argue that there's a lot of convictions where the person was innocent, but there's even more where it was blatantly obvious that the person was guilty, described it in detail, then laughed about it. Throwing him on death row for 25 years, and using tax payers money to keep him fed, sheltered and healthy is just lame. It's sad that someone in jail could get a toothache, go to the site doctor to get fixed, and sit back in their cell sucking a lollipop by weeks end. But then a tax payer does the same thing, and ends up with a $750 bill at the end cuz he finds out his insurance doesn't cover what he needed done.
Well, this argument of course only works in those backwater, third-world countries where routine medical procedures regularly bankrupt people due to a non-functioning care-system.

Additionally, you might wanna find someone who has actually been in prison and have nice chat with him, about how much golly fun it is to lose control over your life and be deprived of your freedom.
Best find somebody who tried to kill himself while in prison,
I hear there are one or two people who tried to do that for whatever silly reason.
(Seriously dude, if you think prison is fun or IN ANY WAY preferable to live outside of prison, you might want to get your head chec... oh shit, forgot, that´s expensive. Dammit.)