Should the UK have a Royal Family?

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DJ_Bunce

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keep them. they do no harm and a damn sight of good. also, having a monarchy is cool - gives the world something to recognise us by
 

DirgeNovak

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No. Us Canadians have to pay fuckloads of money for the governor general and lieutenant governors, who are basically representatives of a foreign queen, who herself is just a useless figurehead.

Oh, and that little vacation William and Kate took here this summer? Yeah, we paid all of it. Fuck you, Your Royal Highness.
 

Rylingo

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Yosharian said:
27CDruid said:
Considering the amount MPs are paid and their ridiculous bonuses (which were legalised after controversy activities), the Royal Family are not my first target for cuts.
Are you kidding? At least MPs do something for our country...
The MPs do as much harm as good and they have legalised their own fraudulent behaviour, allowing them to claim on second houses etc.

They have turned third level education into an unmittigated disaster which encompasses the worst the capitalism and socialism has to offer.

They have lied about reductions made to hospital and police staff numbers.

They refused to have a referendum on Europe effectively damaging the democratic system to the point were you must wonder if it can still be classed as democratic.

They shoved money into the hands of bank CEO's when they should just have let banks like northern rock collapse (but rescue the savings of lenders).

And frankly they haven't shown balls. The MPs lack cojones.
 

green gear

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I'm Irish and I would love to see the "Royal Family" fall. I hate them so much.
Oliver cromwell's measures against Ireland have been characterised as genocidal or near- genocidal and he overthrew the english monarchy. and you want the royal family to fall?
 

Harrowdown

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On principal alone, i'd get shot of them. However, they draw in a bundle in tourism money, and serve as a decent enough focal point for foreign relations and the like.
 

BristolBerserker

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I love having a monarchy for several reasons.
1. They and their estates bring in money to the UK
2. They are a major aspect of British and commonwealth culture
3. Prince Philip is hilarious
4. The french don't have a royal family, if they did the UK would be the most republican nation on earth, and wouldn't be called the UK
5. The armed forces and other services swear allegiance to the queen, not to a constantly changing government
6. Removing them would rip out a lot of stuff that makes us British
7. The royal family do a lot of ambassador style work for they UK, helping establish trade and good relations between nations

There are more but i'd run out of space and start to bore people, but i do feel they if you don't like or respect or just appreciate the monarchy, then you can't really call yourself British.
 

WolfThomas

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I have no problem with the UK keeping their royal family, what annoys me is that the Queen is my countries head of state, not a popularly elected Australian.
 

green gear

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Yosharian said:
27CDruid said:
Considering the amount MPs are paid and their ridiculous bonuses (which were legalised after controversy activities), the Royal Family are not my first target for cuts.
Are you kidding? At least MPs do something for our country...
today between them members of the royal family hold approximently 3000 patronages of charitable organisations

aslo today levi bellfield found guilty of the murder of milly dowler and two other young girls suffered facial cuts and brusing in an minor attack by a fellow prisoner, and may claim compensation up to £30,000 from the prison service. paid for by the taxpayer

well a least MPs do something for our country.
 

Lusty

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SacremPyrobolum said:
Lusty said:
dex-dex said:
Daystar Clarion said:
dex-dex said:
you will not be able to get rid of her easily.
I have learned something new today.

And now I will regurgitate those facts as if they were my own!

[HEADING=2]Huzzah![/HEADING]
Glad to know I have contributed to someone's gains in knowledge.
Except you haven't. Every time I see that bloody video I really wish someone would post the response to it. So here it is:


And the financials aren't the point anyway! I would much rather sacrifice the money they [don't actually] make and live in a proper democracy with an elected house of Lords, separation of church and state, no more Lords Templar etc etc etc.
One person says one thing, the other person says another. Which is right, we will never know...

The tourism thing is nonsense as well. If we turfed the Royals out of Buckingham Palace and Windsor, and opened up the stunning royal collections of art that for some reason no one is allowed to see, we'd make a fortune.

Happily I think it won't take too many years of King Charles to convince everyone to get rid of them.
One person says one thing the other says the opposite. You will believe who you want to believe.
The guy in the second video was being unsporting and making an ass of himself so I'll go with the first video.
Yeah. He was being an ass so screw all the facts!
 

green gear

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Lusty said:
SacremPyrobolum said:
Lusty said:
dex-dex said:
Daystar Clarion said:
dex-dex said:
you will not be able to get rid of her easily.
I have learned something new today.

And now I will regurgitate those facts as if they were my own!

[HEADING=2]Huzzah![/HEADING]
Glad to know I have contributed to someone's gains in knowledge.
Except you haven't. Every time I see that bloody video I really wish someone would post the response to it. So here it is:


And the financials aren't the point anyway! I would much rather sacrifice the money they [don't actually] make and live in a proper democracy with an elected house of Lords, separation of church and state, no more Lords Templar etc etc etc.
One person says one thing, the other person says another. Which is right, we will never know...

The tourism thing is nonsense as well. If we turfed the Royals out of Buckingham Palace and Windsor, and opened up the stunning royal collections of art that for some reason no one is allowed to see, we'd make a fortune.

Happily I think it won't take too many years of King Charles to convince everyone to get rid of them.
One person says one thing the other says the opposite. You will believe who you want to believe.
The guy in the second video was being unsporting and making an ass of himself so I'll go with the first video.
Yeah. He was being an ass so screw all the facts!
you like fact's lusty here are some facts just because two people can make and put two videos on youtube dose not mean either is telling the truth or knows what there talking about.
yes our country has problems, but we have it better than most, but if you want to live in a proper democracy go live in Iran.
 

Lukeje

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If the Royals bring in so much tourist money then why does the government need to fund them through taxpayer's money?
 
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Lukeje said:
If the Royals bring in so much tourist money then why does the government need to fund them through taxpayer's money?
You really think our government knows ANYthing about money?

Basically, they act as economy stimulants, therefore increasing the flow of money around the system, so they're paid for being figureheads. Quite a neat system overall. America does the same with Disneyland.
 

Baron von Blitztank

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I see no reason why they shouldn't exist aslong as they stay quiet and out of the media but if you want my opinion then you can look into that empty corner over there to see the amount of fucks I give about them.
 

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Just saw the reply video posted something like five times above my own post, and, while I'm sure that it has its own flaws and mistakes, it is convincing. Not totally sure where I stand now; I've supported both views in the past, and now I'm just about to give up on the entire issue. :p
 

Mullahgrrl

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Thanatus1992 said:
Mullahgrrl said:
Didnt you watch the other video? those numbers are bogus.
The second video whines about lack of taxes, but doesn't say what would happen if we start taxing them. The royals would probably dissolve the agreement, leaving us with significantly less money than we get from them now.

Also, they're immune from inheritance tax because they don't own much of what people think they do. What gets transferred from monarch to monarch tends to belong to the country but is cared for by the Royals.
No, I meant the part where everything they own are originally stolen from the British people through lies, brute force and the clever use of hedges.