Should Valve concentrate on Half Life and not L4D?

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Vrex360

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How about we just don't ask questions, stop acting like they've insulted us for deciding to make a game other than Half Life, stop pretending we have any right to tell them how to do their jobs and all just leave them be?

There's a crazy idea.....
 

NotAPie

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:p I know Valve will finish Half Life sooner or later so I don't really care, they are makeing games to keep us busy right?
RIGHT :D
 

D_987

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Sneaklemming said:
Trivun said:
Internet Kraken said:
You're an idiot.

Valve is divided into teams. One team is working on Half-Life, while another works on Left 4 Dead.
Ninja'd by the first poster. Now that is embarassing for me...

But yeah, basically this. I believe I mentioned it earlier on another thread, after all...
I think actually that youre wrong, but only in the detail,

I believe that Valve just published L4D and that Half-life is their own property, and VAlve studio would work on that,

So its not as simple as they have two teams, because they didnt MAKE L4D - they published it
?

Valve created Left 4 Dead and EA published it on the consoles...
 
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D_987 said:
Sneaklemming said:
Trivun said:
Internet Kraken said:
You're an idiot.

Valve is divided into teams. One team is working on Half-Life, while another works on Left 4 Dead.
Ninja'd by the first poster. Now that is embarassing for me...

But yeah, basically this. I believe I mentioned it earlier on another thread, after all...
I think actually that youre wrong, but only in the detail,

I believe that Valve just published L4D and that Half-life is their own property, and VAlve studio would work on that,

So its not as simple as they have two teams, because they didnt MAKE L4D - they published it
?

Valve created Left 4 Dead and EA published it on the consoles...
EA were the box publishers. (Yanno hard copies)
 

Trivun

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Sneaklemming said:
Trivun said:
Sneaklemming said:
Trivun said:
Internet Kraken said:
You're an idiot.

Valve is divided into teams. One team is working on Half-Life, while another works on Left 4 Dead.
Ninja'd by the first poster. Now that is embarassing for me...

But yeah, basically this. I believe I mentioned it earlier on another thread, after all...
I think actually that youre wrong, but only in the detail,

I believe that Valve just published L4D and that Half-life is their own property, and VAlve studio would work on that,

So its not as simple as they have two teams, because they didnt MAKE L4D - they published it
Hmmm, I have the game, looked at the box just now and it was definitely developed by Valve. I may be wrong, but according to that the finished product at least was all Valve's own development. Whether it was based on a previously purchased mod I have no idea, but the finished product at least is definitely a Valve development.
Arent the developers turtle rock studios? (I should really look this up, but I fail atm
D_987 said:
Sneaklemming said:
Trivun said:
Internet Kraken said:
You're an idiot.

Valve is divided into teams. One team is working on Half-Life, while another works on Left 4 Dead.
Ninja'd by the first poster. Now that is embarassing for me...

But yeah, basically this. I believe I mentioned it earlier on another thread, after all...
I think actually that youre wrong, but only in the detail,

I believe that Valve just published L4D and that Half-life is their own property, and VAlve studio would work on that,

So its not as simple as they have two teams, because they didnt MAKE L4D - they published it
?

Valve created Left 4 Dead and EA published it on the consoles...
Actually, I just looked it up. D_987, you're almost right, but not quite. Same to you, Sneaklemming. Turtle Rock Studios began development, but during development Valve purchased it from them and finished it themselves, so it was started by Turtle Rock but the official developer of the finished product was Valve. Valve published it themselves as well, but EA were the retail distributors. They didn't publish it, but they were responsible as a third party distributor for the retail version, while online sales were under the responsibility of Steam.
 
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Trivun said:
Sneaklemming said:
Trivun said:
Sneaklemming said:
Trivun said:
Internet Kraken said:
You're an idiot.

Valve is divided into teams. One team is working on Half-Life, while another works on Left 4 Dead.
Ninja'd by the first poster. Now that is embarassing for me...

But yeah, basically this. I believe I mentioned it earlier on another thread, after all...
I think actually that youre wrong, but only in the detail,

I believe that Valve just published L4D and that Half-life is their own property, and VAlve studio would work on that,

So its not as simple as they have two teams, because they didnt MAKE L4D - they published it
Hmmm, I have the game, looked at the box just now and it was definitely developed by Valve. I may be wrong, but according to that the finished product at least was all Valve's own development. Whether it was based on a previously purchased mod I have no idea, but the finished product at least is definitely a Valve development.
Arent the developers turtle rock studios? (I should really look this up, but I fail atm
D_987 said:
Sneaklemming said:
Trivun said:
Internet Kraken said:
You're an idiot.

Valve is divided into teams. One team is working on Half-Life, while another works on Left 4 Dead.
Ninja'd by the first poster. Now that is embarassing for me...

But yeah, basically this. I believe I mentioned it earlier on another thread, after all...
I think actually that youre wrong, but only in the detail,

I believe that Valve just published L4D and that Half-life is their own property, and VAlve studio would work on that,

So its not as simple as they have two teams, because they didnt MAKE L4D - they published it
?

Valve created Left 4 Dead and EA published it on the consoles...
Actually, I just looked it up. D_987, you're almost right, but not quite. Same to you, Sneaklemming. Turtle Rock Studios began development, but during development Valve purchased it from them and finished it themselves, so it was started by Turtle Rock but the official developer of the finished product was Valve. Valve published it themselves as well, but EA were the retail distributors. They didn't publish it, but they were responsible as a third party distributor for the retail version, while online sales were under the responsibility of Steam.
Ah o..k but is it the same situation for L4D 2?
 

Trivun

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Sneaklemming said:
Trivun said:
Actually, I just looked it up. D_987, you're almost right, but not quite. Same to you, Sneaklemming. Turtle Rock Studios began development, but during development Valve purchased it from them and finished it themselves, so it was started by Turtle Rock but the official developer of the finished product was Valve. Valve published it themselves as well, but EA were the retail distributors. They didn't publish it, but they were responsible as a third party distributor for the retail version, while online sales were under the responsibility of Steam.
Ah o..k but is it the same situation for L4D 2?
I wouldn't have thought so. Since Valve were responsible for most of the development for L4D after purchasing the mod from Turtle Rock, they would have had to create a seperate team to work on it, which of course wouldn't have an impact on Episode 3 since the team for that would have still been working on that project. Valve would have created a completely new team or had people who'd just finished working on other projects on the L4D team. Either way, since they already had the rights to the L4D franchise after buying them from Turtle Rock, they'd already have the team as well so they'd be able to begin work straight away and it would be completely Valve this team. That said, I'd imagine the publishing and distribution arrangements will be exactly the same.
 

Woe Is You

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Just to make something clear here: they bought Turtle Rock wholesale, so it's not like developers changed when the company changed.
 

letsnoobtehpwns

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sneak_copter said:
letsnoobtehpwns said:
I like Left 4 Dead better so Valve should put all their energy into Left 4 Dead.
Oh yes, because you represent 100% of Valve's fanbase, yes?

Ok, I'm sorry. That wasn't very nice. But I seriously want Ep. 3 first. I can't count how many times i've been rick-rolled by "HALF-LIFE EP3 GAMEPLAY!!11ELEVEN!"
I am Valves entire fanbase and WE demand more Left 4 Dead! (I'm not being serious, I just gave my opinion.)
 

ElArabDeMagnifico

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L4D seems like it's easier to make. They said Half-Life episode 3 is going to be their most "ambitious" project (the HL studio anyway) and with all the basic framework done for L4D it seems like the only thing that desperately needs changing is the AI director and level design.
 

internutt

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Left 4 Dead 2 is going to be a good game. It has everything that merits a sequel.

Left 4 Dead's sales depend on the popularity of the zombie genre of gaming. If they wait too long then zombies will not be commercially viable since gamers will have gone elsewhere. Much like how World War 2 games have gone out of fashion due to market over saturation.

Just because they are making a new Left 4 Dead does not mean they are abandoning the first either.

Half Life has a big reputation. The longer they spend on it, the more likely they are to keep this reputation.
 

brett1990

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yes im kinda pissed... well im not so much pissed that they are doing L4D 2, L4D 1 "is" a great game and im sure they will continue to update it like just like TF2 even if a sequel is out. but i am pissed that Half life 2:Episode 3 wasn't even mentioned at E3 2009, instead L4D 2 came out of nowhere... i mean come on VALVE!!! its been almost 2 years!!! what ever happened to "more frequent episodic releases" you said that remember?!!!

i just hope that its tacking this long because the "Source Engine" is getting a BIG update! the source engine was the prettiest engine out there but its starting to show its age. yes it scales down very well on most PC but that doesn't mean they cant add a higher level of graphical quality for people like me that have $300 vid cards, DX10 and a quad core!

they will release it when its ready and not a second sooner, because thats Valve, thats how they do things and it will be amazing!!! i just wish that it was brought to E3... :(

but i will buy L4D 2 the day it comes out on Nov. 17th!!! just 1 day short of a year from L4D 1's release... hmm...

for the "Source Engine" i want to see in HL2E3 is this...

1. post-processed lighting (like Crysis)

2. more use of good shaders, for the ground and walls. (like Stalker: Clear Sky)

3. and very interactive water (like Resistance 2)
 

frenchtoast1337

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true, but they are still one company with one common goal. And also, I really dont pay that much attention to the companys themselves, but more the games that they put out, so sorry for not knowing the inner workings of the Valve Corporation.