Should we tell the Muggles?

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Signa

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Pearwood said:
Signa said:
First of all, they are in England where guns are quite uncommon.
Looks like someone's never been to Manchester! :)
Nope, but aren't they still illegal over there? That's besides the point though, any good wizard could just conjure or summon one.
 

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This has the potential to be a VERY bad idea. Agent K put it best, actually. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkCwFkOZoOY]

I suspect the mass panic will cause wizardkind to fall back into the shadows for a bit, at least until they calm down and realize what assgaskets they were at the potential for great things they were losing out on by being wankers about the magic folk. They'll then feel more comfortable around wizards and accept them...if for no other reason than to use them and their abilities for their benefit.

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I don't know who supplies the bong, but I suspect he won't be anymore.
 

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I was under the impression not everyone could even see magic. How many people would believe what you can't see or use?
 

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Signa said:
Nope, but aren't they still illegal over there? That's besides the point though, any good wizard could just conjure or summon one.
Yeah civilians can't have them, police and presumably smart Aurors have them though. And like anything else that's illegal, you can find them if you've got money.
 

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Regnes said:
I've thought about this before, and honestly the best solution is to eradicate the muggles by peaceful means. Think about it, if a witch/wizard couple breed, their offspring is a witch/wizard, if a witch or wizard breeds with a muggle, their offspring is also going to be a witch or wizard. Magical genes are a highly dominant trait, and if the magical community would make an effort to start breeding with the muggles, the world would be a much better place.

Just take over the sperm banks and secretly replace them with wizard spunk, seek out new couples who could do with another child and get the woman pregnant, and help out the couples where the man is infertile. Over time enough families will have a witch or wizard that the barrier between both worlds will be highly distorted and they can tear the walls down. At this point they could be incredibly aggressive and sterilize muggle males, but it would probably be better to release propaganda promoting the benefits of having magical children through wizarding sperm banks.

Would work too, I mean, how many parents would want to bring a child into this world knowing that it would effectively be of an inferior class, they would want to use the sperm banks and produce a child that is superior to the regular folk.

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Also blood transfusions might possibly be an option, but I sort of doubt it. It's indicated that when one wizard takes on another wizard's blood, they can gain magical properties they didn't have but that the donor did have. So it's possible that if you gave a muggle a blood transfusion from a magical person that they could take on magical properties themselves.

I have doubts about this though because it would be such an obvious cure for squibs if it were true.
I read this, and my only thought is... well... disgust. Your talking about breeding out "muggles". Sure, it could be argued that thats what farmers do with livestock, but than your basically saying that anybody without magic is not even human now.

Personally, I dont really care for the style of magic in the Harry Potter Verse. But unless some massive event happens that makes hiding the truth about magic impossible, I would maintain the currant level of ingorance.
 

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Pearwood said:
A bigger question - why did no one just shoot Voldemort? Let him come back 7 times, he's always going to be waving a stick around and shouting, takes longer to do that than it does to pull a trigger.
because all guns were destroyed...by magic...or dramatic necessity take your pick lol I did always question why they didn't just kill him 6 more times though
 

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him over there said:
I love how everyone assumes that being a wizard makes you some all powerful totally different tier being from non wizards. They're still human, you could shoot them just like the rest of them.

So the wizards shouldn't tell the muggles for their own protection because all people fear that which they see as superior. The muggles would naturally try, and succeed (see guns) at killing them.
Yea everyone seems to think the wizards are super powerful but in all honesty, if there was ever a war between muggles and wizards, the muggles would slaughter them with few casualties.
 

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Pearwood said:
A bigger question - why did no one just shoot Voldemort? Let him come back 7 times, he's always going to be waving a stick around and shouting, takes longer to do that than it does to pull a trigger.
tippy2k2 said:
Pearwood said:
A bigger question - why did no one just shoot Voldemort? Let him come back 7 times, he's always going to be waving a stick around and shouting, takes longer to do that than it does to pull a trigger.
I always questioned that myself and maybe someone here will have a reason...

My friend who read it said that electronics and "modern stuff" break with wizards, in which case, Harry Dresdon his ass with a six-shooter (or high powered sniper rifle).

To answer the question, yes, reveal it. I haven't read HP so maybe there are things they can't do but it seems like healing spells alone would be pretty damn useful.
Voldemort broke his soul into 7 pieces so he would become immortal, it's not just a case of killing him 7 times and that's it, that's why harry and co had to go round destroying the horcrux's, Also human technology doesn't work around magic so if we went in all guns blazing all a wizard/witch would have to do is cast a bit of magic.
 

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Signa said:
Pearwood said:
A bigger question - why did no one just shoot Voldemort? Let him come back 7 times, he's always going to be waving a stick around and shouting, takes longer to do that than it does to pull a trigger.
First of all, they are in England where guns are quite uncommon. Second of all, shut up!
Just check all the Farmers and their Mums too
 

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Just slap Apple logos on all the new spell books, and charge 600 dollars per book, people will eat that right up.

Even if you don't get any powers from it.

Best way to reveal.
 

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For all the people who say "Herf-a-derf, snipers..." and always will...

It's shown that a joke shop can enchant and mass produce items of clothing with deflection charms on them. Voldemort probably has magical protection up the wazoo, and even if he doesn't, it's not like his location is ever clear or particularly permanent. I mean fuck it, us muggles could barely find Bin Laden, what chances do we have against someone who can fly and teleport?
 

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SS2Dante said:
Yes they do. In the HP universe electronic equipment breaks near areas of high magical activity. (See Goblet of Fire). A gun would presumably work any time, and individual wizards can use electronics, but put more than a few of them together and it seems to act like an EMP.
Remind me. It has really been a while since I've read the books. I do remember that stuff didn't work in Hogwards, stuff like walkmans and cameras, but I can't remember why that was. I thought that was part of a spell put over the school but I may be wrong.

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Also human technology doesn't work around magic so if we went in all guns blazing all a wizard/witch would have to do is cast a bit of magic.
However I'm pretty sure that's false. TDF has old tech breaking round wizards - almost everything that's not about 50-ish years (or more) old. Magic there makes new firearms misfire, but nothing like that has been established in HP, to my knowledge.

And how do you picture the wizards casting magic, if they are shot.

Besides, there are tons of weapons that aren't firearms and can be used - melee weapons like knives, batons or just a rock in a friggin' sock. Also poisons, darts, molotov cocktails. Don't tell me fire will stop burning around wizards (excluding magic) and chemicals will behave differently (again, without magic).
 

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TheUsername0131 said:
If it was revealed, the religious would? NERD RAGE!
Considering how hard some sections of the religious world NERD RAGED simply at the existence of these books, yeah, you're 100% right there.

"Harry Potter, making evil look innocent."
 

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Geo Da Sponge said:
For all the people who say "Herf-a-derf, snipers..." and always will...

It's shown that a joke shop can enchant and mass produce items of clothing with deflection charms on them. Voldemort probably has magical protection up the wazoo, and even if he doesn't, it's not like his location is ever clear or particularly permanent. I mean fuck it, us muggles could barely find Bin Laden, what chances do we have against someone who can fly and teleport?
Thank you for saying this. I've had this argument with people for ages. You, my friend, just won the internet.
 

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Pearwood said:
A bigger question - why did no one just shoot Voldemort? Let him come back 7 times, he's always going to be waving a stick around and shouting, takes longer to do that than it does to pull a trigger.
Wizards are unfamiliar with muggle technologies which is exactly what Ron Weasley's Dad does at the Ministry of Magic. The Wizards are just way behind it seems with tech!
 

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Catie Caraco said:
Geo Da Sponge said:
For all the people who say "Herf-a-derf, snipers..." and always will...

It's shown that a joke shop can enchant and mass produce items of clothing with deflection charms on them. Voldemort probably has magical protection up the wazoo, and even if he doesn't, it's not like his location is ever clear or particularly permanent. I mean fuck it, us muggles could barely find Bin Laden, what chances do we have against someone who can fly and teleport?
Thank you for saying this. I've had this argument with people for ages. You, my friend, just won the internet.
While I agree with you, I must say that Voldemort has been known to underestimate anything that is not magical (as have wizards in general). There's a good chance he just wouldn't have considered the possibility of Muggle weapons at all.
 

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GundamSentinel said:
Catie Caraco said:
Geo Da Sponge said:
For all the people who say "Herf-a-derf, snipers..." and always will...

It's shown that a joke shop can enchant and mass produce items of clothing with deflection charms on them. Voldemort probably has magical protection up the wazoo, and even if he doesn't, it's not like his location is ever clear or particularly permanent. I mean fuck it, us muggles could barely find Bin Laden, what chances do we have against someone who can fly and teleport?
Thank you for saying this. I've had this argument with people for ages. You, my friend, just won the internet.
While I agree with you, I must say that Voldemort has been known to underestimate anything that is not magical (as have wizards in general). There's a good chance he just wouldn't have considered the possibility of Muggle weapons at all.
I concede your point, but counter with the fact that protection spells probably don't single out specific types of threats, or if they do, Voldy would have used all that he could think of. He didn't get as far as he did by ignoring small details, at least in the magical world. We know that they can use concussive spells, incendiary spells, slashing spells, and spells that throw things at adversaries. (In order, Rictusempra used to blast away Aragog's children, Incendio, Sectumsempra which Harry uses to slash open Draco's chest, and Serpensortia as well as Windardium Leviosa.) So while Voldemort probably isn't on the look out for small pieces of metal being propelled at high velocity, I'm sure protections against the four 'wizarding' attacks mentioned above will probably cover his bases.

Side note, I find it amusing that Chrome doesn't recognize 'wizarding' but it does recognize Voldemort.