Should you be allowed to kill children in games?
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I don't see why not. If we're at a point where we can blow everything away except children, well, why are we holding back and being virtuous in this one instance? I forgot this was even barred until I was trying to kill the kids at the Republic of Dave, and then it all sank in again. It isn't real, so all pixels should be fair game.
If I could put the faces of the arrogant little shitbags round my area on the faces of the children, then yes. When did kids forget how to play and start deciding to wear tracksuits and swear at passers by at age 10?
But for like a GTA style massacre? Maybe not. It'd be kind of pointless and somebody would be on it screaming it's singlehandedly causing world poverty and earthquakes.
But for like a GTA style massacre? Maybe not. It'd be kind of pointless and somebody would be on it screaming it's singlehandedly causing world poverty and earthquakes.
I think that if you have a sandbox game (Fallout for instance) and you want to give the player freedom, then you should allow them to do anything, and that includes killing children. I would say that the designer should think of some way to make the decision to kill children one that weighs heavily on the conscience of the player (not just losing 500 karma points or something stupid like that, though maybe if you set a value like "for every child you kill you have to earn twice as many good karmic points as you did before" or "every time you kill a child x amount of karmic points are subtracted from your maximum available karmic points." Etcetera.) Though really I think that there should probably be something more moving than sticking to those stupid karmic systems in the first place. I find they subtract from a game.
Seems odd to me how there can be so much trepidation around the issue of perhaps MAYBE killing a child (in a game), and yet there can be such a carefree attitude towards murdering swaths of law enforcement officers.
I'll soon be applying to join my country's federal police force, and I'll be the first to admit to enjoying the GTA games, but I just don't know why the debate isn't seriously focused on killing law enforcement officers, rather than children.
I'll soon be applying to join my country's federal police force, and I'll be the first to admit to enjoying the GTA games, but I just don't know why the debate isn't seriously focused on killing law enforcement officers, rather than children.
We already kinda have killed children in Bioshock (some of us anyway). If its whether we should be able to car jack a schoolbus in GTA5 and go on a rampage then I say no. People tend to be very sensetive about violence against children, movies/tv hardly ever depict it graphically so I see no way videogames could.
Pretty much this, the main thing is that it has a point and is done tastefully (like in the afformentioned Bioshock example)FargoDog said:
It is a fine line to walk I think. Take for example Fallout 2, in fallout 2 you can indeed kill children just for the sake of killing them. In that game which is setup to be a "brutal unforgiving world" (I know theres other aspects to fallout too!) not being able to kill them might seem out of place.
I do though fully understand why people may not wish for it to happen. My opinion is a little divided If it fits the feel of the game, then I can kinda unstand having it in.
I do though fully understand why people may not wish for it to happen. My opinion is a little divided If it fits the feel of the game, then I can kinda unstand having it in.
It was all the more fustrating considering Fallout 1 & 2 both allowed you to kill children. I cna understand that they don't want to do something like now, what with videogames being the new scrape goat and new generation graphics making it a bit graphic but DON'T FILL A WHOLE VILLAGE WITH FILTHY LITTLE FUCKERS!! That must been a result of "let a moron make a design descision" day.ciortas1 said:
If there are children in the game anyway, and if you could kill an adult in the exact same situation, yes you should be able to. I wouldn't, but invincible god-children is just immersion-breaking, and makes me wonder why they need me to do anything when a child is immune to mortality.
Especially in games supposedly about freedom (ahem, Fable 2). In the first game I accepted it since you couldn't kill anyone in that town, but come on...would a demonic, heartless serial killer still be friendly and protective towards random children that keep pestering him?
Especially in games supposedly about freedom (ahem, Fable 2). In the first game I accepted it since you couldn't kill anyone in that town, but come on...would a demonic, heartless serial killer still be friendly and protective towards random children that keep pestering him?
For those of you mentioning Dragon Age, it's worth noting that you don't actually kill Connor - He turns into a demon before the fight. The same with Wild Flower (Chai Ka/Ya Zhen) in Jade Empire.
A dev explained [http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/4770843%26lf%3D8#4770895] on the official forums that depicting violence to children makes the game illegal in some markets e.g. Germany.
A dev explained [http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/4770843%26lf%3D8#4770895] on the official forums that depicting violence to children makes the game illegal in some markets e.g. Germany.
I don't see why not. I mean, I think there is probably some psychological issues with you if you really want to play a game where you are a hunter of children....
But if a game let's you kill people, children are just more people. It's not like a child's life has any more value than an adult. The perception seems to be that way, but really, when it comes down to it, killing is killing.
But if a game let's you kill people, children are just more people. It's not like a child's life has any more value than an adult. The perception seems to be that way, but really, when it comes down to it, killing is killing.
Children should be mortal, that's all I can say.
If we're not going to have killable kids, don't include them.
If we're not going to have killable kids, don't include them.
You could do that in Fallout 2 if you wished. It wasnt exactly the point of the game but you could, and when yer trying to save farmers from bandits...well... Accidents do happen, and the game punishes you for killing children as well so I dont see why not. Now a game about just killing children would just be as tasteless as it would be pointless.
I think yes.
I mean, I don't think it's good to run around killing children all the time in games, but is killing adults in the same way any better?
But I think it could bring a bit more possibilities to quests involving children - if you solve all problems by just killing, why can't you solve problems by killing children?
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I mean, I don't think it's good to run around killing children all the time in games, but is killing adults in the same way any better?
But I think it could bring a bit more possibilities to quests involving children - if you solve all problems by just killing, why can't you solve problems by killing children?
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Totally agree.Kenko said: