Should you be allowed to kill children in games?

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Unrulyhandbag

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Lucas_90 said:
Seems odd to me how there can be so much trepidation around the issue of perhaps MAYBE killing a child (in a game), and yet there can be such a carefree attitude towards murdering swaths of law enforcement officers.

I'll soon be applying to join my country's federal police force, and I'll be the first to admit to enjoying the GTA games, but I just don't know why the debate isn't seriously focused on killing law enforcement officers, rather than children.
In a game you often interact with the world using a gun it's no fun to shoot targets with no defence so you need a target that carries one. And you want a target to be easy to identify ie: has a uniform so that the eye is drawn to it and the player knows the expected response.

Easy to identify targets that carry guns in normal society? Soldiers, police ummm.... no that's about it. Everyone else is just a person with a gun.

Why not point the question at films and TV they use the same people for pretty much the same reasons. They need action with guns and a reason for characters to have them, the audience needs to be aware of the characters with guns or to at least build expected responses to a scene.

Gunning down police officers in a game makes no difference to my attitude to police in real life. The fact that the ones I've met and the few I know personal have been irritating braggarts that seem to enjoy their powers without actually knowing what they are doesn't change the fact that I'm not going to shoot them because SHOOTING PEOPLE IS WRONG AND EVERYBODY KNOWS IT.

Same goes for children I might gun down a few children in fallout and fallout2 as the morons stroll through my arcs of fire or block a door but I'm not going to slaughter a school bus full them based on how easy it is in a game. Immortal characters in a game piss me off no end weather they are quest characters or children but at least there's a legitimate gaming related reason for unkillable quest dispensers.

edit: Games have rules those rules are different than social rules. My 6 year old daughter knows this she loves to play-fight and considers 'killing' enemies in logo starwars to be trivial but she never uses violence or even hostility in normal life.

The whole "children are precious how could you do it" is utter nonsense. I love my children and consider children in general to be more interesting humans than most adults but a virtual cardboard cut-out is not in any way shape or form a child.
 

sephiroth1991

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If its done tasetfully and for a perpose. In a game like GTA no no no but for games like Fallout and dragon age yes yes yes.
 

vamp rocks

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i think if a game is trying to go for the "gritty realistic" edge, or just wants to be realistic in general then i should be allowed.. i can understand why there is alot of moral debate behind this but to be honest, its just a game. people dont play games where they kill people and then go out and kill people, despite what some people would have you beleive... and if someone is mentally unstable enough to play a game and then go out and kill people because of it, then chances are they would have no greviences with topping a kid anyway, and letting you kill the children in the games wouldnt have any effect in the first place.
 

ShotgunSmoke

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Yes. Children are the most annoying creatures on Earth. I'll stab them and play around in their blood.

Seriously, though, why not? Why is killing polygonal, fake children different from killing polygonal, fake adults? They're computer-generated. They are not people.

It's just stupid that all free-roam worlds are populated by people over 18.
 

Munkebo

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ShotgunSmoke said:
Yes. Children are the most annoying creatures on Earth. I'll stab them and play around in their blood.

Seriously, though, why not? Why is killing polygonal, fake children different from killing polygonal, fake adults?

It's just stupid that all free-roam worlds are populated by people over 18.
Never thought about it that way.
 

RichardThompson

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Pixels =/= real life. Of course you should be able to, do we expect that games like House of the Dead have a mysterious sub-plot that all the humans under 4'2" escaped because it was deemed unsound? No, it's party of the bloody story. If you find some enjoyment to killing them, so be it.
 

Something Amyss

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I don't really care if you can or can't. It's nto really going to alter my gaming experience. I'd lean towards shouldn't, though.
 

FamoFunk

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As a Mother, I would not buy a game that involves killing Children. I really don't care if it's not real, it would make me feel very uncomfortable.
 
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Cassita said:
You should be allowed to do anything at all in a game.

Last I checked, pixels have no rights.
Mr. Pot meet Mr. Kettle.

OT: I just want to kill those kids in Fallout 3...

'I bet you're evil cause your mommy didn't love you!'

'Oh you are SO dead kid!' *Fat Man to the face*
 

Some_Jackass

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In the end, theyre just pixels, so murder away.
Theyre no different than the cops, crime bosses, zombies, innocent bystanders and people who cut me off in traffic that I mow down in a typical day of gaming anyway.

...and if a game wants to claim to be realistic, how can they NOT include mortal children?
 

n00beffect

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Definetely! Everything, and I repeat EVERYTHING, that is not allowed in RL should absolutely be allowed in games! And I mean everything! Why? Because that's probably the only way you could actually do it without having to harm anybody except yourself (probably). Rape, murder, I am gonna go as far as to say pedophillia... Because if games had all these things, there'd be a lot less REAL damage, and a lot more virtual one. Back on topic - Of course! Children are stupid annoying creatures and even the decentest of parents has the need to *****-slap a kid once in a while. I am absolutely positive of that. Because it's human nature, unfortunately, to want to hurt others. So my answers is totally YES! If there was a game specifically designed so that you can trash the hell out of some fat kid, I'd play all freaking day! Yes! That's the kind of monster I am and I am not afraid to admit it. Thank you!
 

FamoFunk

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ciortas1 said:
FamoFunk said:
As a Mother, I would not buy a game that involves killing Children. I really don't care if it's not real, it would make me feel very uncomfortable.
Nobody will be making you buy it. We're talking consistency here.

Edit: actually, you said you just wouldn't buy it. Excuse me for confusing you with a moral high horse rider.


And again, I ask the question, just how is it more morally wrong in any way to kill children instead of adults?
No problem lol

To me it's more wrong because children are more innocent than adults, they didn't ask for a war like on CoD or a Zombie outbreak like on L4D.

I know most adults wouldn't either, but adults are able to deal with the consequences and try to sort the problem out, therefore would more than likely be an innocent bystander over children.

IDK, I can't, as you can see, really explain it... but I still stand by I would not like it.
 

badpun

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If its senseless violence then no, but if it adds to the integrity of the storyline or enhances the game then perhaps depends on the context too.