Should you be allowed to kill children in games?

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OManoghue

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I think so, but it depends on the game. In Fallout 3 you can kill anyone you like, except those little pricks in Lamplight. In a free roaming open world game like that it kinda takes you out of the immersion when your bullets travel through a kids head and hit Sticky in the chest.
 

tomdablob

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Personally (and I'm SO going to be attacked for saying this...) I feel that you should be allowed to have As Much Realism As Possible in games.

That's right, I think you should be able to do anything you like in games - with all the wonder and horror that comes with it.

Because personally I like to play a game as if I'm me.
And then I like to play as if I'm the polar opposite as me.
And sometimes I like to blow off steam and snipe people and go on a rampage etc.
And sometimes I like to play like a saint (for example I sometimes load up various GTA games and see how far through I can get by driving perfectly killing almost no-one and making money with taxi missions etc, just for a change you know?)

I have no problem with murdering, raping, curb stomping etc etc anyone in a game because games are ways to 'experience' thing you don't in real life.

In games you already do things you wouldn't normally do and killing swathes of adults in a game is in no way any more or less acceptable than say raping a child in a game. It's just something different to experience in the game that wouldn't happen in life - as is the point in games.

I have a feeling that the people who have problems with the morals of the situation get very immersed and almost see the game as real.

I don't get so immersed with a game that I don't remember it's just a game, so I have no problem with anything in games or literature (e.g. lolita).

Now if a game was like a holosuite then I probably would have moral issues, but the fact that you have a thing in your hands and you're controlling actions on a screen already stops full immersion.

Hope that's added something to the discussion :D
 

JonnyZOMG

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Signa said:
I'm going to say no for now, because of the whole "obscene" rule that Extra Credits pointed out in the Free Speech episode. After the supreme court ruling is over, sure, why not?
Except for this, I honestly don't understand the hypocrisy of the argument against it. Why is it fine to shoot innocent adults and not children? It may sound psychopathic, but really... If anything, wouldn't it give the player a more emotional choice? Personally, if it's incorperated into a realistic, or at least engaging, enough world, I can't imagine I'd be mowing down children; though I was one of those that avoided killing Little Sisters in Bioshock out of guilt, so you're always gonna get people who disagree.

Like above though, the only point against it, as far as I'm concerned, is the controversy caused by either ill-minded journalists or developers that choose to use it as a point of controversy, to either ban or sell games, respectively.
 

Sarah Kerrigan

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tomdablob said:
Personally (and I'm SO going to be attacked for saying this...) I feel that you should be allowed to have As Much Realism As Possible in games.

That's right, I think you should be able to do anything you like in games - with all the wonder and horror that comes with it.

Because personally I like to play a game as if I'm me.
And then I like to play as if I'm the polar opposite as me.
And sometimes I like to blow off steam and snipe people and go on a rampage etc.
And sometimes I like to play like a saint (for example I sometimes load up various GTA games and see how far through I can get by driving perfectly killing almost no-one and making money with taxi missions etc, just for a change you know?)

I have no problem with murdering, raping, curb stomping etc etc anyone in a game because games are ways to 'experience' thing you don't in real life.

In games you already do things you wouldn't normally do and killing swathes of adults in a game is in no way any more or less acceptable than say raping a child in a game. It's just something different to experience in the game that wouldn't happen in life - as is the point in games.

I have a feeling that the people who have problems with the morals of the situation get very immersed and almost see the game as real.

I don't get so immersed with a game that I don't remember it's just a game, so I have no problem with anything in games or literature (e.g. lolita).

Now if a game was like a holosuite then I probably would have moral issues, but the fact that you have a thing in your hands and you're controlling actions on a screen already stops full immersion.

Hope that's added something to the discussion :D
Actually, dear, that's some amazing points. I give you a good applause.
 

DemonicVixen

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Ahem.... If the Sims games allow you to starve, drown, burn etc your children, then why cant other games?

Then again, i personally think its rather cruel, game or not, there is something sickening about killing a child/teen or even pensioner, more so then killing an adult.
I dont mind killing people, but i dont find it fun killing innocents, or killing the above. Adults over 20 are bad enough.

(oh, and i DESPISE killing animals in a game. Even Perfect World, i dont mind killing the mythical creatures, but not the cats/rabbits/hens/horses or dogs that wander around the map and i hate the people that purposely do it also, as if they're so BIG and MACHO for killing something that doesnt fight back and only has 1 health point. Pathetic is what i call those people)
 

theSovietConnection

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There has only ever been one child in a video game I have ever felt compelled to kill. ONly one.



A simple "SetEssential 0000313b 0" fixed that, though ;)
 

Vault101

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I would usually be against it but god that kid, the leader of the kids from little lamplight caverns, Fallout 3, that Arrogant little prick I would have liked to teach him some manners,

Just because he was a kid didn't mean he could act like an A-hole especially to me
 

Sn1P3r M98

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I think we should. It isn't real and really isn't much different then killing virtual full grown people imo.
 

Tonythion

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Yes, oh God yes.

I'm not a big fan of Fable but I played Fable II decided to go on a rampage in a little town and before I could even kill anyone (I did loot a house though) Some little girl snitched on me. I tried to kill her to shut her up but...I couldn't, not because I didn't want to, but because the game didn't let me. The little girl cost me some health.

I mean if you can kill everyone else (and kick chicken...animal abuse!) why not kill little kids to get your evil meter up?

I hate Fable....
 

cannot_aim

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It really depends on the game but on the whole I say it should be allowed but not overdone. It could be used very well as shock value in a game.
 

Vault101

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FargoDog said:
ciortas1 said:
FargoDog said:
If it's for the story, yes. For example in Dragon Age you have that choice at one point, and that worked really well. But when it's just gunning down children for the sake of it, then it's just pointless and is controversial and violent for the sake of it.
Are you one of those people who says GTA is just gunning down people for the sake of it? I mean really.

Take Fallout 3 for example, there is a certain city full of little annoying god damn kids. Have you not tried killing them? It's as if the game taunted you to kill them, only to find out they just get knocked out and then stand up again. It's not realistic, it's dumb and it's only there to be politically correct. Just think of the children, rite?
No, I meant when developers put it in with the only purpose being 'You can kill kids! Hurhur!' and watch the media frenzy ramp up their sales. If Fallout 3 had the ability to kill kids, it wouldn't be a problem as it's not a huge part of the game. It's only when it's glorified that it's stupid. Not offensive or tasteless, I frankly couldn't give a damn about the moral dilemma over some shooting some pixels, but simply stupid.
I think it would be a probelm if you could kill children in fallout 3, because that info would get to the anit-video game brigade regardless of weather or not it was advertised and they would cause a shitstorm that could have gotten it banned, I don;t think it would have mattered how much a part of the game it was but just the fact the you could do it...Like In australia aparently they werent happy that you could take morphine so they had to change it to "med-ex" can you imagine what they would have done if you could kill children?
 

Mikeyfell

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you mean be able to physically kill those 13 year old fuck bags who are ruining my Halo Reach experience over Xbox Live?
yeah I'd be down for that

or are you talking about fable?
 

Death God

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It's fine because it's a game and not in any way real but it doesn't mean that you make a game all about child murder either. Moderation but it's all good because it's a game. Therefore, not real.
 

twasdfzxcv

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I say if you're allow to kill a certain type of creature in games, then you should be allow to kill the children of that type of creature, be it human, aliens or giant space monsters.

Death God said:
It's fine because it's a game and not in any way real but it doesn't mean that you make a game all about child murder either. Moderation but it's all good because it's a game. Therefore, not real.
I'd love to see a game build entirely on killing children. Maybe with some moral message or something, like "killing children is good for the environment".