You're confusing to things. As far as I know, Shh (sonic hedgehog) is not the same as the P53 gene. It is it's official name however, so you were right in that.Mournblade94 said:An important point to note:
The p53 gene which is responsible for embryonic axis formation in human embryos, and cell division suppression in humans is called the Sonic the Hedgehog gene. That is its official scientific name.
It makes the sonic the hedgehog protein. So maybe the developers remark is not that far off. The person that discovers a gene or protein gets to name it.
You would too, if you spent any amount of time around them. Ever check out the SonicRetro forums? People argue about the most pedantic little things, speak with AUTHORITY on subjective matters as though their word were final, even when the rest of the community is doing the exact same thing with a disagreeing stance... It can be a really unpleasant part of the internet.anthony87 said:I never realised people thought so little of Sonic fans.
The name of the gene is not sonic the hedgehog but I did not think it necessary to get that technical here. The protein was indeed named for sonic the Hedgehog. The protein itself unmutated resembles a hedgehog. This particular one was named sonic. All of the proteins in the hedgehog series have the spikey appearance.Thedutchjelle said:You're confusing to things. As far as I know, Shh (sonic hedgehog) is not the same as the P53 gene. It is it's official name however, so you were right in that.Mournblade94 said:An important point to note:
The p53 gene which is responsible for embryonic axis formation in human embryos, and cell division suppression in humans is called the Sonic the Hedgehog gene. That is its official scientific name.
It makes the sonic the hedgehog protein. So maybe the developers remark is not that far off. The person that discovers a gene or protein gets to name it.
It was named that way because the fly (or mice..?) that had a mutation in that gene looked spikey.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gene/20423
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gene/2768677
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shh
Hm. Didnt think of the protein. Kinda weird that P53 doesnt code for the P53 protein..? Normally it works that way, atleast it does for P51. Uniprot tells me SHH codes for the SHH protein, not p53 ( http://www.uniprot.org/uniprot/?query=SHH&sort=score )Mournblade94 said:The name of the gene is not sonic the hedgehog but I did not think it necessary to get that technical here. The protein was indeed named for sonic the Hedgehog. The protein itself unmutated resembles a hedgehog. This particular one was named sonic. All of the proteins in the hedgehog series have the spikey appearance.Thedutchjelle said:You're confusing to things. As far as I know, Shh (sonic hedgehog) is not the same as the P53 gene. It is it's official name however, so you were right in that.Mournblade94 said:An important point to note:
The p53 gene which is responsible for embryonic axis formation in human embryos, and cell division suppression in humans is called the Sonic the Hedgehog gene. That is its official scientific name.
It makes the sonic the hedgehog protein. So maybe the developers remark is not that far off. The person that discovers a gene or protein gets to name it.
It was named that way because the fly (or mice..?) that had a mutation in that gene looked spikey.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gene/20423
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gene/2768677
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shh
I am correct on all counts. And I better be since I work in the field.
Yes it appears my original post of writing off the cuff and not being technical confused youThedutchjelle said:Hm. Didnt think of the protein. Kinda weird that P53 doesnt code for the P53 protein..? Normally it works that way, atleast it does for P51. Uniprot tells me SHH codes for the SHH protein, not p53 ( http://www.uniprot.org/uniprot/?query=SHH&sort=score )Mournblade94 said:The name of the gene is not sonic the hedgehog but I did not think it necessary to get that technical here. The protein was indeed named for sonic the Hedgehog. The protein itself unmutated resembles a hedgehog. This particular one was named sonic. All of the proteins in the hedgehog series have the spikey appearance.Thedutchjelle said:You're confusing to things. As far as I know, Shh (sonic hedgehog) is not the same as the P53 gene. It is it's official name however, so you were right in that.Mournblade94 said:An important point to note:
The p53 gene which is responsible for embryonic axis formation in human embryos, and cell division suppression in humans is called the Sonic the Hedgehog gene. That is its official scientific name.
It makes the sonic the hedgehog protein. So maybe the developers remark is not that far off. The person that discovers a gene or protein gets to name it.
It was named that way because the fly (or mice..?) that had a mutation in that gene looked spikey.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gene/20423
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gene/2768677
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shh
I am correct on all counts. And I better be since I work in the field.
So I still don't fully agree. But I'm only a 2nd year student Biomedical Sciences, not a professional, so I could've made a mistake or perhaps simply misunderstood you . I'll stop this here before it gets horrible derailed.
Cheers.
I'm not trying to be needlessly inflammatory or anything because I love this website, but. . . have you spent any time on the forums here at The Escapist? The average Game Discussion or Off-Topic thread is usually full of people pedantically arguing about how objectively terrible CoD or Battlefield or Gears of War or Halo or Metal Gear Solid or Final Fantasy or Sonic the Hedgehog or Dead Space or Bioshock or WoW or Batman must be because they personally don't like those games. Or how the entire Mass Effect series is ruined forever because of ten minutes of bad writing after 20-30 hours of excellent writing before it, as well as two great games even further before it.Covarr said:You would too, if you spent any amount of time around them. Ever check out the SonicRetro forums? People argue about the most pedantic little things, speak with AUTHORITY on subjective matters as though their word were final, even when the rest of the community is doing the exact same thing with a disagreeing stance... It can be a really unpleasant part of the internet.anthony87 said:I never realised people thought so little of Sonic fans.
That being said, they really do know how to tear apart a Sonic game, find exactly what's wrong with it, and hack it until it's awesome. I'd call them diverse, even EXTREMELY intelligent (well, many of them, at least)... just not particularly sophisticated as a whole.
P.S. Thanks
I feel a presence I haven't felt since...Blunderboy said:Hmmm for no reason at all I am reminded of Eternal Nothingness. Strange.
Tharwen said:That's not a baby seal, it's a furry baguette with a face.RJ 17 said:![]()
Baby seal approves of today's comic and the joke of sophisticated Sonic fans.
He also wants to know how Sonic fans are even still around. >.>
Obviously.