Shows that Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot

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Johnny Novgorod said:
Twin Peaks. I love the show to death but it's riddled with inconsistency problems throughout its (rather lengthy) second season. Solving Laura Palmer's death mid-season was wrong and left a plot void that gave way to lots of stupid filler and circular subplots. By the end of the show it was getting interesting again and it got cancelled. So much for that.
Those fifteen episodes where it's good though still make it one of the best shows ever. And the episode where Laura Palmar's killer gets revealed is blood curdling.

But yeah, it goes so fucking down the drain after that. What pissed me off the most was Cooper and Aundrey suddely not having any feelings for eachother anymore, and him instantly losing his heart to Roller Girl. The only good thing after that was every scene with Benjamin Horne.
 

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MLP:FiM.
I love the show, but they completely botched the Equestria Games "Arc".
They spent the whole season building up to it, then blew it by having the actual games happen in the background of a f*****g Spike episode.
Never mind the fact that Spike episodes are my least favorite, they only showed glimpses of the events and made the focus Spike moping around outside of the games.

Waste of a big event...
 

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Casual Shinji said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
Twin Peaks. I love the show to death but it's riddled with inconsistency problems throughout its (rather lengthy) second season. Solving Laura Palmer's death mid-season was wrong and left a plot void that gave way to lots of stupid filler and circular subplots. By the end of the show it was getting interesting again and it got cancelled. So much for that.
Those fifteen episodes where it's good though still make it one of the best shows ever. And the episode where Laura Palmar's killer gets revealed is blood curdling.

But yeah, it goes so fucking down the drain after that. What pissed me off the most was Cooper and Aundrey suddely not having any feelings for eachother anymore, and him instantly losing his heart to Roller Girl. The only good thing after that was every scene with Benjamin Horne.
I read somewhere that there was some exec meddling that forced the writers to drop the Cooper-Audrey romance because of the age difference. So they made up Annie to have a damsel in distress for Cooper to rescue in the finale, and Billy Zane came in to get Coop off Audrey's mind.
 

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SAO mentioned, SnK mentioned, Naruto mentioned, need to pull an obscure one outta my ass... hmmm

Rosario + Vampire!

Now now wait wait, everybody including me knew perfectly well what they were getting themselves into here, but seriously? My god I was so disappointed. All I can say is, the manga did it right, ecchi and harem sure, but they managed to weave in a dark plot that was at least pretty interesting, and the former never got in the way of the latter. The anime was utter bollocks, both seasons of it.

Oh damn it I still can't resist giving my input on SAO and SnK, screw this I SAY WHAT I WANT!

Why did you cram 2 separate virtual worlds into one season!!!??? WHY!!??? 25 episodes set in Aincrad would have been perfect, the pacing wouldn't be all over the place, the romance wouldn't have been so forced and crammed in, characters would have been given more time to develop, and you'd basically have 10/10 material right there.

Attack on Titan... Did you run out of fuel? You were speeding and power sliding through corners like a pro for about the first 10 episodes, then somehow things changed. The plot would basically go up to rocket speed then suddenly slow to a crawl for a long time. The defense of Trost part 2 was slow, but it was still acceptable. Then came the damned "Special Titan" (won't spoil it), entire episodes would be devoted to the characters just standing there and having long flashbacks, only to make way for intense action in the last 2 minutes or so. The pacing finally recovered in the end (last few episodes), so that was good.

Now that should be a problem with the pacing, not the plot right? No. Because of this retarded pacing, a lot of things were simply handwaved. To make it short, we basically still know close to jack shit about the universe SnK is set in, and why things ended up the way it did.
 
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RariShyZealot said:
MLP:FiM.
I love the show, but they completely botched the Equestria Games "Arc".
They spent the whole season building up to it, then blew it by having the actual games happen in the background of a f*****g Spike episode.
Never mind the fact that Spike episodes are my least favorite, they only showed glimpses of the events and made the focus Spike moping around outside of the games.

Waste of a big event...
I never even really noticed the buildup to the Games since the series as a whole is writing itself into a corner... Without Lauren Faust's involvement, the show is losing all sense of nuance and cohesion. I'd say the wasted plot comes along far sooner than the Equestria Games in the form of Nightmare Moon's true identity. It's largely implied both by Faust and by the series proper that NM isn't Luna's "darker half," if you'll forgive the horrible word choice, but an entirely separate entity that latched onto Luna's feelings of jealousy over her sister's popularity.

If not then, then the Chrysalis/Shining Armor/Cadence arc certainly counts. The point is the show jumped the shark looong ago.

It's still fun to watch, though, for the most part. It's just also clear that the creative team are scraping the bottom of the barrel for ideas now.
 

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Strike Witches. Y'all might say that it's just a fanservice show and I shouldn't be angry at it for being one. I disagree. The show clearly is trying to have plot and drama and characters, but it is so fucking undermined by it's stupid fanservice bullshit that it fails as both a drama and a fanservice show. And the second season is the lazest copy-paste job I've seen in years.
Never watched it, but I think this is a problem with the asthetic instead of the plot, the plot would be the same even if they actually dressed properly. Still, how bad is the second season?
It's pretty much the first season all over again no joke. Same basic plot, same long-ass 2 episode intro, same mid season fucking around, episode 7s crazy again, and the last to eps suddenly remember that they wanted to do a plot and botch that.

If you've ever watched code geass season 2, just imagine the first two episodes of that, but give that treatment to the entire season. The producers realized that they could just sell the series again to fans, so they did.

The plots problem isn't necessarily that it's bad. With some work it could have been decent, but every scene is underminded by panty shots that completely ruin the mood. If the characters just bothered to wear tights or normal military clothes the show could have been salvageable.
 

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Star Trek Voyager wasted great plot ideas on a weekly basis, minus a few truly awesome episodes here or there.

And it's almost entirely due to the writing. Competence and continuity are extreme rarities, and that's especially jarring when compared to its co-running predecessor Deep Space Nine (which wasn't perfect, but you could tell the cast and writers actually gave a shit most of the time).

I could add more, but that would just degenerate into a rant against Rick Berman and not actual discussion, so I'll just leave it at that.
 

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Firefly.

Thats right I said it, the TV show wasted a perfectly good setting and characters with most of the episodes being boring nothings.
Hmmm, while I agree that Firefly was my own choice for a letdown, I personally found it wasn't the series that lost me, but the movie.

In the series, I was really enjoying the mystery behind River and her powers, and the Preacher, and the fact that we never saw an actual Reaver (we watched a boy lose his mind, supposedly as Reavers did originally, but still). Then the movie Serenity came along, and threw up all over my enjoyment, basically flinging the curtain back to reveal the wizard (or in this case, a dancer 'waif-fu-ing' a bunch of cenobyte wannabes). But that's just how I felt, and if others really liked Serenity, then so be it. I've been told that as a Joss Whedon vehicle, I should have known it would devolve into this kind of spectacle, but I never watched any of his series work except for Roseanne.

Which I loved, by the way.
 

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I'll second Sword Art Online (Season 1, didn't watch Season 2). Along with the tension created by the premise, the story showed a lot of potential to deal with the people who play online games and the relationships that form between them due to playing those games. And honestly, with all the lamenting we see about friendships formed online, that was a story that I would love to see. However, almost every character that was introduced was mostly dropped after the first or second episode they were in, and every interesting plot element was thrown away just as quickly. The end result is that none of the characters or their relationships felt meaningful in the slightest, and so much of it came across as really bad filler. Sure, some episodes were interesting, but the overall story was seriously lacking.
Wasn't there another Anime like that? Dot Hack or something like that, it had some cross-over with games of the same name?
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
Twin Peaks. I love the show to death but it's riddled with inconsistency problems throughout its (rather lengthy) second season. Solving Laura Palmer's death mid-season was wrong and left a plot void that gave way to lots of stupid filler and circular subplots. By the end of the show it was getting interesting again and it got cancelled. So much for that.
Executive meddling. Lynch never wanted the mystery solved at all, and he was right. Still it had its moments like silent runners, new shoes, and the owls not being what they seemed.

delta4062 said:
Why Dinosaurs though? Won't they just get wiped out the same way they Dino's do eventually?
One hundred and thirty five million years or so is plenty of time to come up with a solution given we've only been on the planet for about 200,000 years and only really been exhibiting modern behavior for 50,000.
 

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Fate/Zero. I enjoyed Madoka Magica and Saya no Uta but Gen Urobuchi dropped the ball here. I honestly don't understand why he had to put so much emphasis on Kiritsugu and walk the tired route of badass cliches with his character. The highlight of the show will forever be the first outro because in that minute or so I feel more for the characters than I do in 40 minutes of tragic backstory. I would have loved to see the show go in-depth into the servant's past life because that shit is compelling.
 

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Someone already mentioned it, but Sons of Anarchy.

Started off great: was made by the same people who did "The Shield" (my favorite show ever), established that you weren't really supposed to 'like' the main characters, and showed them having real issues that they had to deal with and constantly having their backs to the wall.

But as the show went on it just got more and more eye-rollingly stupid.
-Jax has basically been turned into a biker version of James Bond. He can seduce any woman just by looking at them, wins every fight he's in, and seems smarter than the entire town put together.

-The Sons, despite supposedly being high school drop-outs and small-time criminals, are continuously able to out-wit not only every other gang out there, but the entire Federal Government over and over again.

-One can argue this one, but the whole idea that Tara is a freakin' Doctor and is married to a guy with a criminal record who she knows murders people and sells weapons to street gangs for a living is just a little too far-fetched.
 

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Heroes was a great big let-down in the second season. The first season was awesome. I was hyped for season 2. Then...blech :(
 

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Imma have to keep bashing Naruto with others. It's ironic how far the show has fallen from it's premise. It's appeal was to see an absolute zero rising in power and earning other's trust with hard work, but instead it that whole arc has now been turned into "because you were destined to" -story. Also, powercreeping has ruined the show's appeal as well. I truly enjoyed the fights in the first series because of the different and interesting techniques used as well as the tactics that played a part in them. And now it's been turned into Dragonball Z...
 

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VoidWanderer said:
MysticSlayer said:
I'll second Sword Art Online (Season 1, didn't watch Season 2). Along with the tension created by the premise, the story showed a lot of potential to deal with the people who play online games and the relationships that form between them due to playing those games. And honestly, with all the lamenting we see about friendships formed online, that was a story that I would love to see. However, almost every character that was introduced was mostly dropped after the first or second episode they were in, and every interesting plot element was thrown away just as quickly. The end result is that none of the characters or their relationships felt meaningful in the slightest, and so much of it came across as really bad filler. Sure, some episodes were interesting, but the overall story was seriously lacking.
Wasn't there another Anime like that? Dot Hack or something like that, it had some cross-over with games of the same name?
I don't think SAO has anything to do with actual games, just a light novel. It just uses the MMORPG setting for the premise. But there are other animes like it, and I believe Dot Hack is one of them. Log Horizon also has a similar premise, and it actually is very good after the first couple of episodes.
 
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Heroes. That's a rare case of near-universal agreement that season one was great, and everything after that sucked.

I kind of agree with people mentioning Voyager, but I still liked that show. Some of the characters were great (The Doctor, Seven, Tuvok), some of the episodes were great (seriously, Voyager is weird in that it is generally mediocre to decent, with the occasional spike of true brilliance), and I'm a Star Trek fanboy, so I'm a bit blind to its minor flaws.

What REALLY wasted its potential was Enterprise. I understand that by the end of Voyager Star Trek's popularity had waned a lot from the heyday of TNG/DS9. So they decided to make it sleeker and sexier for the young and brain-damaged audiences. But instead of a fledgling Starfleet taking its first big steps into deep space, discovering new worlds and meeting familiar races for the first time, instead of getting a sense of exhilarating and terrifying exploration and learning that the galaxy is much bigger and more dangerous than you ever dreamed...we got Captain Archer and his two sidekicks acting smug in everyone's face, shooting or proselytizing their way out of every situation, and just plain stupid characterization and plot threads. It was bad. Like, as stated before I am a total fanboy willing to enjoy Star Trek even in many of its dumbest moments, but I just couldn't keep up with Enterprise.
 

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Heroes. That's a rare case of near-universal agreement that season one was great, and everything after that sucked.
I don't remember where I read this, but apparently each Season of "Heroes" was supposed to have completely different characters with completely different powers and a totally new storyline. Even though there were definitely some great characters in the first season, I think that would have made the show way better if they had tried that format.
 

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3. Highschool of the Dead.

The initial premise; Dawn of the Dead meets Lord of the Flies when a group of highschoolers find themselves stuck in the middle of the zombie apocalypse, and need to struggle to survive while society breaks down around them.

What the series became:


So, what shows do you think wasted a perfectly good plot for the sake of fanservice/pandering to the lowest common denominator.
I've got to ask, is that video representative of the series overall? I ask because it's the only example from the show that anyone ever uses, and usually when there's a big hate-off on something because of fanservice or female characters not wearing the right amount/type of clothing for someone's feminist sensibilities and only one example ever gets used, it's because that one example isn't representative, but makes for good rage bait.

babinro said:
Death Note is fantastic up until part way into Season 2. It takes a significant turn and goes downhill from there.
There's actually a simple explanation for that -- they utterly broke the pacing. Prior to a certain event that necessitates the introduction of Near and Mello, every episode covers about the same amount of the manga (about 2 1/4 chapters/ep), meaning the two generally share the same pacing (the anime cuts some detail and speeds it up a bit, but not too badly). After that certain major event happens, they pacing changes up to an average of 4 1/2 chapters/ep, and they start cutting things and rewriting things to try to cram most of it in.

I'm also of the "Near cheated and used the Death Note to kill Light/Mikami in order to 'prove' Light was Kira" school of thought, especially given that Near outright starts saying what people will do and how they will react, and Mikami doesn't live all that long after Kira is revealed (in the anime he dies in the same scene from suicide, in the manga 10 days later in jail under mysterious circumstances) and Near burns the Death Notes immediately afterward.

Bremaine said:
Dexter hands down. It was such an awesome show and then it fell apart around season 5 or so. I didn't even bother watching the final season because it just became a joke of a show near the end.
Hated the ending. It would have actually been an OK ending (if a little off theme compared to the books or the earlier seasons of the show), if not for that last scene.

gandhi the peacemake said:
Spoiler warning ahead of time, as this is a long post and spoilers are scattered throughout.

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Tenzin turns from a sometimes overbearing wise airbending teacher to an inept and all too easily flustered teacher.
Trying to indoctrinate a bunch of mostly adults into an entirely new culture is an entirely different beast than raising a handful of kids within that culture or teaching one teenager how to air bend. He's out of his depth and isn't coping well. He didn't cope well with Jinora being better than him at the spiritual stuff at first, either.

gandhi the peacemake said:
3.) Dark Avatar, boo.
It could have been done well, instead it became a kaiju fight resolved by space Jesus.
 

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Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam.

Before this show saw American release, I'd read summaries online of the Japanese episodes, and man, it all sounded awesome. But then when I watched it, even though the overarching plot *sounds* really cool, each individual scene was crap. On a macro level the show looks good, but on a micro level poor dialogue and a lack of attention to detail kills it. It's sort of Battlestar Galactica's problem in reverse - on that show, each individual scene is wonderfully written and acted, and it's enough to draw you in, but if you ever take a step back you realize instantly that the overall plot is utter nonsense.