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I think this might, at least, recoup its money. One of the main reasons why M. Night doesn't do well any more because you can easily find out his 'twists' which as a lot of posters point out, is his whole gimmick. What's this twist, what's this twist. Back in the time of the Sixth Sense, you could still relatively miss it. Save for us computer geeks of that time, it wasn't wide spread. Cut to now, and everyone is issued a smart phone from birth.

The other reason is that his movies are horrible.

However, one of the reasons why it might at least recoup is for the simple fact that we all like the spectacle of watching a trainwreck, and M. Night is quickly becoming Hollywood's Tommy Wiseau.
 

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When I first saw that trailer, two things came to mind that day: Is this a modern [re]take on Hansel and Gretel and why does the boy look more familiar than the mother on Skype, who looks like she's had previous movie roles before?

Other than that, I have no expectations for this movie the same way I did when I finally saw After Earth, Shyamalan did a great job not directing Wayward Pines, and the last time I got hyped for something turned out to be a horrible adaptation that I was too blind to see it as such until after a good re-watch of the original source material... Then again, the one movie from Shyamalan I still want to see [on DVD] is Lady in the Water just to "satisfy" my younger self since he got hyped for that particular movie just by seeing the first trailer in a theater near him at the time...
Lady in the Water is horrible. I'm willing to bet the feeling you have of not knowing right now, is better than anything you could feel during the course of actually watching the movie. It is really, really bad. And no small portion of the film is devoted to self-agrandizing and giving the finger to critics.

I know a lot of people feel differently, but Unbreakable is still my favorite film of his. Immediately followed by The Sixth Sense. Signs started to lose me in the third act; but it was watchable and I found a lot of it genuinely funny and touching. And it all went down hill from there.

But this movie, I don't know. The idea of seing people you love, or who are related to you, behave strangely/dangerously is really unnerving. And from what I saw, I can imagine that there would be scenes that would creep me out a little. HOWEVER, I can already tell I won't be able to accept the idea that the grandparents are existing in a vaccuum - so much so that legitimate concerns about their behavior is written off as them literally being "just old". If they are that fucked up, how do their kids not know? Do their kids never visit them? If their kids never visit them, why do they care to send the grandkids to visit them? When the grandparents act all weird why do the parents not trust the grandkids (their kids)? They trust these strangers they know nothing about and never see more than their offspring? WTF?

I know for a fact that when I was a kid, if I went to someone's house and they started acting all weird, I and called my parents about it, they would get their asses the car, drive ANY distance and find out what the actual fuck was going on and get me the hell out of there. I know because I needed them to get me from somewhere when I was little and they did. Just like any normal parent would.

So all I'll be able to see in this movie is a garbage miscommunication conflict plot to hang a horror story on.

And that's LAAAAAZY!

Edit: After watching the second preview which included another SEPARATE scene of the kids asking their mom to come get them and help them - their plea evidently going unanswered, I have to say: No. Fuck this movie and fuck its lazy script.
 

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vagabondwillsmile said:
Edit: After watching the second preview which included another SEPARATE scene of the kids asking their mom to come get them and help them - their plea evidently going unanswered, I have to say: No. Fuck this movie and fuck its lazy script.
My head canon is that the twist is that the mother and the grand parents are epic jerks, and that all the strange behavior and douchie parenting is a practical joke they're playing on the kids.

I am 100% sure that is a better twist then what will actually be in the movie.
 

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I've seen a few tv commercials for this. They never mentioned Shyamalan as the director.

Seems it's shot in and around Philly. So, not much of a twist there.
Just saw one of those commercials an hour ago, they do mention him at the end actually.

Anyway, who wants to make bets on what the "twist" is at the end? The obvious one is that the grandmother has dementia or something like that, but I'm leaning towards the "Unreliable Narrator" trope. I dunno, maybe the kids had some sort of drug problem and were sent to their grandparents' house to get clean, and the weird behavior they're seeing is a combination of withdrawal symptoms and their grandparents freaking out over it. Or something stupid like the kids were demon possessed and that they were sent way out in the sticks to be quarantined.
 

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Where's the promised sequel to Unbreakable you miserable bastard? Stop trying horror, you're crap at it.

CAPTCH: "nice job". After doing all but actually assassinating every good thing about Avatar the Last Airbender, Shyamalan will need to not only make one of the best movies ever, but cure one kind of cancer, to hear me say those words.
 

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I heard an interesting theory that the aliens in Signs were actually demons and the reason the water harmed them was because it was holy water, coming from the home of a priest. Given the story is about faith, I can see that. It's a stretch though.

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Just saw one of those commercials an hour ago, they do mention him at the end actually.

Anyway, who wants to make bets on what the "twist" is at the end? The obvious one is that the grandmother has dementia or something like that, but I'm leaning towards the "Unreliable Narrator" trope. I dunno, maybe the kids had some sort of drug problem and were sent to their grandparents' house to get clean, and the weird behavior they're seeing is a combination of withdrawal symptoms and their grandparents freaking out over it. Or something stupid like the kids were demon possessed and that they were sent way out in the sticks to be quarantined.
Unreliable narrator doesn't work though. The movie is found footage.

I'm gonna go with the dementia one. Though someone on youtube pointed out that at 1:28 you can see the kids' camera on the laptop is covered by something. It might be shining too bright on reflective plastic but it might be worth noting. Maybe it's meant to be something, maybe proof the kids are the crazy ones and the found footage isn't actually the real POV?

Or maybe this is a rare non-twist ending. The twist is there is no twist.

OH OH OH! I got it! The grandparents are into roleplaying and don't want the kids to see, and grandma sometimes stays in character afterwards. The oven scene she's playing the witch from Hansel and Gretel and the grandpa is the father that saves them in the variations of the story that have the dad not be a pushover.
 

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...My point being that this looks like another Happening.

And I can't fucking wait for more of the above.
 

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Well, Shyamalan's dialogue has always been really strange, so perhaps if he just writes it as a normal movie and switches out the setting to be a horror movie, it could work.

Cinematography isn't bad.

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It's really difficult to say anything good really. I mean, his movies were pretty good at one point, then utter dross and then just under par and boring.

This looks like the latter category.
 

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Ah yes, another masterpiece by Shyamalan. The artist that has done what I thought would be impossible. Actually make me feel sorry for the bastard for continuously showing how much he has lost the plot.
 

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Vausch said:
I heard an interesting theory that the aliens in Signs were actually demons and the reason the water harmed them was because it was holy water, coming from the home of a priest. Given the story is about faith, I can see that. It's a stretch though.

Gottesstrafe said:
Just saw one of those commercials an hour ago, they do mention him at the end actually.

Anyway, who wants to make bets on what the "twist" is at the end? The obvious one is that the grandmother has dementia or something like that, but I'm leaning towards the "Unreliable Narrator" trope. I dunno, maybe the kids had some sort of drug problem and were sent to their grandparents' house to get clean, and the weird behavior they're seeing is a combination of withdrawal symptoms and their grandparents freaking out over it. Or something stupid like the kids were demon possessed and that they were sent way out in the sticks to be quarantined.
Unreliable narrator doesn't work though. The movie is found footage.

I'm gonna go with the dementia one. Though someone on youtube pointed out that at 1:28 you can see the kids' camera on the laptop is covered by something. It might be shining too bright on reflective plastic but it might be worth noting. Maybe it's meant to be something, maybe proof the kids are the crazy ones and the found footage isn't actually the real POV?

Or maybe this is a rare non-twist ending. The twist is there is no twist.

OH OH OH! I got it! The grandparents are into roleplaying and don't want the kids to see, and grandma sometimes stays in character afterwards. The oven scene she's playing the witch from Hansel and Gretel and the grandpa is the father that saves them in the variations of the story that have the dad not be a pushover.
True, I guess I was thinking of it along the lines of not strictly posthumous "found footage" so much as a story in progress through shaky-cam. Then at some point the kids or a 3rd party would look at the film and see what was really going on a la Oculus, but there's a lot of mental gymnastics to go through in order to reach that point.
 

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M. Night Sayaman obviously got a terrbile case of "Watchowskis", an affliction that make directors try to recreate they first (and usually) only succes, but just failing more and more.

The worst part, is that you can see the good idea behind these movies, they have a lot of potential. I mock M. Night Saibamen, but I really wish he made a movie that would compete with Sixth Sense.
 

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This film looks like a classic, a classic comedy horror that is!

Seriously, this might be the funniest movie of the year
 

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DanteRL said:
M. Night Sayaman obviously got a terrbile case of "Watchowskis", an affliction that make directors try to recreate they first (and usually) only succes, but just failing more and more.

The worst part, is that you can see the good idea behind these movies, they have a lot of potential. I mock M. Night Saibamen, but I really wish he made a movie that would compete with Sixth Sense.
Well he did make Unbreakable.

Shyamalamamannalan might do best to go and re-watch Are You Afraid of the Dark. He claims he got the idea for The 6th Sense from an episode of that show. Some of the scenarios are actually legitimately creepy, especially for a kids' show. Maybe he should try remaking The Tale of the Dark Music. That's held by fans as one of the scariest episodes. Or Dead Man's Float.
 

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This film looks like a classic, a classic comedy horror that is!

Seriously, this might be the funniest movie of the year
Y'know, you're actually on to something. The Visit is intended as a horror-comedy apparently.

So does that mean if it gets laughs...it would be successful?
 

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Vausch said:
Quellist said:
This film looks like a classic, a classic comedy horror that is!

Seriously, this might be the funniest movie of the year
Y'know, you're actually on to something. The Visit is intended as a horror-comedy apparently.

So does that mean if it gets laughs...it would be successful?
I've heard it wasn't originally intended as being funny but due to test audience reaction it was re-cut and re-branded as comedy horror. If true and it goes on to be successful that would be hilarious