Sick grandad becomes first person in Britain to die on national television

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Knusper

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I just watched it now and I was fascinated, I'm surprised there has been no more of an uproar at this, though.
 

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JasonKaotic said:
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JasonKaotic said:
This is pretty wrong on way too many levels. How the hell is this allowed?!
Why is it wrong? People face death in their families all the time, why shouldn't it be allowed on TV?
Not because of the sight of someone dying, it's just a bit disrespectful. I don't think anyone wants to spend the last moments of their life with a camera pressed in their face, then their family mourning their death with people just stood there recording them.
But he agreed to it. It wouldn't have been filmed if he hadn't.
 

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Personally, I'm not against it. Witnessing a non-violent death may hopefully help with this enormous, paralyzing terror the West has about death in general. Plenty of other cultures celebrate death and embrace it. If this is a step in that direction, good job.
 

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There's a MAJOR difference between filming a death for entertainment/pornographic purposes to put it on the air and filming it for educational purposes and putting it on the air. How is death an inappropriate subject for kids? Kids can die, too, ya know.
 

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The family and the man provided informed consent and the program was shown post-watershed. I understand that this may have made you feel uneasy and I empathise with you for that, but something making you feel uncomfortable and something being immoral are two very different things, it's failing to realise this which has been the downfall of a lot of "moral guardians" in the past.
 

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Where can I watch it? This concept actually sounds quite thought-through and everything...

Y'know, like a documentation. Not like they put him on a stage and spun the wheel of cancer until it came out "death". Now that would be sick.
This on the other hand... I've seen worse, really.

EDIT: Huge wall of rules? Don't make me read them all again to see what has changed, just tell me "X is now different, check it out!" and it'd be much easier.
 

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i personally didn't watch it (may have a gander on iplayer at some stage) but i have no objections. death is the only certainty in life, the family and the man gave full consent, and most importantly you decide if you want to watch it. if it offends you, change the channel.

you aren't being forced to watch this, and if you're watching it just so you can complain, you need to get out more

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Quaxar said:
Where can I watch it? This concept actually sounds quite thought-through and everything...

Y'know, like a documentation. Not like they put him on a stage and spun the wheel of cancer until it came out "death". Now that would be sick.
This on the other hand... I've seen worse, really.

EDIT: Huge wall of rules? Don't make me read them all again to see what has changed, just tell me "X is now different, check it out!" and it'd be much easier.
depending on where you live, you might be able to watch it on bbc iplayer, i assume it will be put up there.

off topic, the wall of rules they changed the warning systems, i didn't notice anything else different.
 

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If the Family don't mind and the man himself doesn't mind, then I see no harm.

I watched and it was fascinating.

If parents don't want their kids to watch questionable content then they shouldn't let them watch TV at that time (21:00). Anyway, I don't think the program would hold children's attention.
^That. I really don't see any problem with this. Don't like it, change the channel.
 

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Well, I can't speak for anybody but myself, but I don't find this harmful in any way. I watched both of my great-grandmothers and an aunt die. It's not pretty, but it's how life works. I am more concerned about parents that sugarcoat the truth for kids with "grammy's gone to a better place now". Sure, you can be religious if you want and say that she's in heaven, but don't raise your kid under the misconception that death and dying should not be a part of their life, or you'll have some real problems once more and more close relatives die.

Well, I'll be able to test that hypothesis myself once I find a partner who will put up with me and my ways xD I'll report back in approx. 20-30 years. brb...
 

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Cpt Corallis said:
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This is wrong on SO many levels =| i can't believe the BBC have showed this!

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/05/12/sick-grandad-becomes-first-person-in-britain-to-die-on-national-television-115875-23124043/

I actually can't believe the Family aloud it either, it's just...wrong! The BBC says it's for science, i say it's wrong and should not have been shown! What if kids were to have see this? it's just stupid and to be honest i think the family should be ashamed!

Your thoughts?
OH MY GOD! Did you see as well that they showed the first few minutes of a babies life! The programmers at the BBC disgust me. How dare they get permission from a dying man to use his death as a means of educating people on a topic that is not usually discussed! How dare they make an insightful and thought provoking programme!
Yeah, HOW COULD THEY *wink* :D

i watched it earlier this evening and didn't find it disrespectful in the slightest. i'm 21 and in (hopefully) 63 years time i can still remember what i saw and say to myself "i've watched it happen, and i'm comfortable with it." that was the meaning of the recording, to teach people death ain't always that scary.
 

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k-ossuburb said:
Well said, I couldn't agree more. It sounds like a very profound documentary and the only reason it's unsettling is because it forces us to be face to face with the truth of our mortality. Granted I think there's probably a suitable age for children to watch it, but I believe parents are well within their rights to decided if it's something they want to expose their children to.

Frankly it sounds like the documentary treats it with the same respect that I've seen the BBC treat everything with. Whether people like it or not the family consented to have the death shown on television and notice that it's not they who are up in arms over it.

Funny thing is if the same thing had cropped up over here in the states the media would have caved in a flipping instant to the pressure.
 

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I hate when people are afraid of something, so they claim that they're protecting children from trauma. I'm sorry, but your fragile inner child is what you're trying to protect, not someone else's kids. I saw my grandparents die--both of them--in the hospital. It was not traumatic. It taught me about life and death. And most kids already get that things, y'know, die.

Child molesters and rapists? Yeah, I think kids can wait a few years. But death? That's like keeping kids ignorant of sex: the longer you do that, the more likely they'll end up weird.
 

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Robot Overlord said:
What about that guy who shot himself in the face on TV? Pretty sure that was like 20 years ago
Budd Dwyer. About 24 years ago and it was just the face. He put the gun in his mouth and shot up into his skull.
 

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Death is a natraul way of life...Better to show it now than see (or hear about) their own loved ones dying first, then seeing some random stranger die.
And as GlaDOS would say "for science. you monster"
 

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Meh people die and this guy clearly lived a full life. What about this is wrong.

It's like sex on tv. I don't really give a toss whether it's on there or not, but if people want to limit it to scientific or artistic displays I'm fine with that too.