Sick of being the good guy!

[Zeema]

Play Prototype. It's impossible to be the good guy, literally. Even though they paint Mercer as the good guy. He really isn't.

yes yes yes yes and Double YES

thats the funniest game very and you can be evil like a boss

 

[Therumancer]

I always hate being the good guy. So does anyone know any titles (preferably fantasy) where you can be truly evil? Also RTS games (like disciples) with truly evil factions, are also verry welcome.

I already played :

-Dungeons
-Overlord 1,2
-Dungeon Keeper
- Heroes of might and magic series
- Disciples

And please, do not say that you can be evil in games like Dragon age or fable. In those games you can only be a dick at most. I mean Boohoo, you won't help someone with a quest and therefore someone dies, you are being an egoistic a-hole at that moment you are not evil. If you could be truly evil in dragon then you should have options like :

give finger to everyone and join the freaking blight. Now that would be evil. Or as a mage character you could summon demons to posses your party. Now that is being a bad guy.

So if someone has any titles or any upcoming titles where you can be TRULY evil please tell me.

Well, in most sandbox games you have that option. In Saint's Row, Grand Theft Auto, Yakuza, etc... your character is usually at the very least a high functioning sociopath.

Truthfully though "evil" is something most games stay away from in the fashion your talking about because while it would find a definate niche audience, it also disturbs people. Rape, graphic torture, and other assorted things just generally aren't supported. Many games allow you to engage in regular 'ol mass murder, but usually tend to gloss over the ramifications.

The problem with being evil in games is that you need to create an entire enviroment intended to support it, and also make it a satisfying thing for the player to do, rather than just making being evil amount to being a jerk for no paticularly good reason.

In the past I've said that if I ever wanted to try and produce a game, assuming I had tens of millions of dollars to invest, I'd probably want to make a sandbox game that would be a giant love letter to 80s horror movies, except following through on all of the sex, violence, and mutilation. Letting the player create and cutomize their very own supernatural maniac in the spirit of Jason Vorhees or Freddy Kruegar. Either that or a crime sim where instead of being a gang banger you play as a seriel killer and rape/torture/kill in a more subtle and graphic fashion with concealment being the goal, the game programmed with variables similar to the old VICAPS system where people could see how long they could get away with it before they wound up trapping themselves. Such a framework could be worked into a greater narrative. I was thinking it would be similar to playing "armchair criminal" on a lot of levels, how all of us have read a seriel killer profile, or mystery novel/thriller and thought "if I was this maniac I could do much better" even if we won't admit it, and probably have no real desire to actually do those kinds of things, especially if you use real variables for pattern recongnition and such and "play against the system" it would be a way of finding out if you'd be better or not.

 

[AD-Stu]

You get to be pretty evil in both KOTOR games if you so choose... but in the first game in particular it's the particularly cartoonish Star Wars brand of evil, so I guess you can take that with a grain of salt

The Lord of the Rings: Battle for Middle Earth games also let you play as the forces of Isengard/Mordor, which is pretty much textbook evil. I don't think the plot is all that great though.

 

[Mister Six]

Crusader Kings 1&2, to advance your dynasty you have to be an evil son of a *****.

For Example:
Your eldest son and heir is an Imbecile? Assassinate him so that your younger son can take his place.

Your son is married to a the daughter of a landed noble whose lands you would like for yourself? Kill of all her siblings so she either inherits the titles or that her children, your grandchildren, do so.

Your liege got you down by preventing your attempts lower his authority in the Duchy/Kingdom? Kill off all his sons so the other nobles are likely to revolt.

Unable to expand beyond your borders because you lack a Cassus Belli? Declare a holy war against Muslims/Heretics to kill them and take their land.

The pope not doing what you want him to? Assassinate him. Or better yet make one of your Bishops the Antipope and take control of the religion.

Really you can get away with a lot of evil shit in CK2.

 

[Wierdguy]

Yeah sure you can sacrifice people in fable but other then that there is not much you can do. You are still bound to the main quest to stop the "bad guys" And that is the problem with most of the games. sure there is a moral system where you could be supposedly "evil" but you are actualy just being the dick. And you are stil doing what you are supposed to do saving the world.

That's why I liked the overlord series so much because you are truly evil there. Ok its kind of silly evil but still you are the evil overlord ( esp. in overlord 2 ).

Actually...

Spoiler: Spoiler

... youre not, in both games youre still just the lesser of two evils. First game? You were actually one of the heroes now being used as a pawn for the REAL bad guy. Second game? You actually (without realizing it sure but still)fight against a much larger more embeded evil, and the game doesnt end with you defeating the good guys and establishing tyranny, but rather with you defeating a greater evil and replacing one tyranny for another.

So yeah... even there youre sort of the "good" guy in the end.

 

[Jodah]

The LoTR RTS game has a campaign for the Witch King (might be an expansion though). You can also play as Sauron in skirmishes.

 

[Xangba]

from what I have heard from friends about fable 3 it is kind of linear. even when you are evil you still save the people and that is lame. And that is the problem with game where you are "supposedly" evil. Look at ME2 you can be a renegade, and make some a-hole moves. but you still end up saving the day.

Mass Effect renegade was not meant to be "evil," it's bold, xenophobic, pro-human, and whatever-it-takes. And being a dick too of course. Shepard was always meant to save the galaxy either way.

OT: Neverwinter Nights 2 is pretty good. At the end of the OC you can

Spoiler

Actually join the bad guy instead of fighting him. Oh and kill all your loyal followers by doing so.

and at the end of the Mask of the Betrayer expansion you can

Spoiler

Embrace the curse and became a soul-eating demented beast, with the epilogue describing you hunting down your dead companions souls to feast on them and prevent them rest. You also kill gods who get in your way

Non-spoiler version: Your comment about joining the darkspawn? Pretty much. It's been a looong time though so I'm a little blurry on the rest of the game, but there are sure to be some other evil options during the rest of the campaign. After all, there are three evil alignments.

 

[lacktheknack]

Try the Geneforge series. Align with the Takers, KILL EVERYBODY AAAAARRRRRRRGH.

 

[BarbaricGoose]

Evil Genius is fun. The evilness in the game is on the lighthearted and silly side, though.

 

[chimeracreator]

Tropico 1, 3 and 4 lets you be the dictator of a small island. So if you're a horrible leader you can create an oppressive police state, civil wars and constant rebellions.

Dark Messiah of Might and Magic also gives you the option of being evil, and technically the greater of two evils.

Also, Overlord is not about you being the lesser of two evils. You can choose to the lesser of two evils if you want to, but you can also be the greater of two evils if you feel like it. The reason you're taking over the world from the other forces of evil isn't because you want to free them. It's because you want to conquer it so those two-bit wannabe evildoers better get out of your way.

 

[Infernai]

Dude, just play Drakengard for PS2. You wanna play the badguy? Well, you aren't really the main villain but..you're main character is still pretty freaking evil and psychotic (One mission during one of the alternate paths literally has you murder child soldiers). In short, his motivation for fighting the evil empire is because they wronged him at one point. He doesn't give two shits about saving the world, he just wants to murder the ever loving crap out of things.

You wanna be evil? That's arguably the best example i've got.

 

[guidance]

Prototype man, your options are evil, or slightly more evil.

 

[Sansha]

Sim City 4, now that is a game where you can be evil.

Get a huge slum going next to the nuclear plant then unleash a tornado? Trap a whole bunch of people on the freeway and make an earthquake?

That's kind of what I did. I established a titanic super-city run by nuclear power plants. Then I reshaped the city to put all the low-income residential zones next to the power plants, gave them an independent water and transport system, as well as schools, clinics, police and fire stations.

My experiments into cancer-fueled superpowers continue.

 

[xPixelatedx]

Since someone said Prototype, I will say Minecraft. Find an 'anything goes' server and start trolling. The best part? You actually are being evil to people, since you are ruining their hard work and killing them so they lose things they spent hours getting.

 

[arnoldthebird]

You can be evil in the Saints games...
Walking around with your giant purple bat humiliating everyone, you can either be a public menace or a terrorist, take your pick

 

[Tiger Sora]

Command & Conquer. Faction, Nod. A quasi religious, terrorist organization / businesses. First thought hell bent on world domination, but really they are trying to bring on an invasion of aliens so that their leader and chosen may ascend to the aliens worlds.

They preform inhumane experiments on humans with Tiberian.
Murder civilians.
Sabotage, subterfudge.
Genocide.
Use of WMD's. Nuclear, bio, chemical.

Really just about any despicable act you could think of this group preforms.
I'd call Nod and their leader Kane, pretty damn evil.
Kane is also supposed to be the biblical Cain. The first human to murder.

 

[trooper6]

from what I have heard from friends about fable 3 it is kind of linear. even when you are evil you still save the people and that is lame. And that is the problem with game where you are "supposedly" evil. Look at ME2 you can be a renegade, and make some a-hole moves. but you still end up saving the day. I just don't understand why game developers wont make more games where you play from completly from the evil perspective.

To bring up a phrase we would often say during D&D games, "There is a differencen between Chaotic-Evil and Chaotic-Stupid." -- (we would also say, "There is a difference between Lawful-Good and Lawful-Stupid" as well...but that's a different story).

Just because you are totally evil doesn't mean you won't save the world. If the world is destroyed, you can't be the evil Overlord...because, you know, you are dead along with everyone else in your plane.

Play KotOR 1. You save the galaxy, yes. So you can rule it as your own evil self.

Or, if you really get off on just mass slaughter when no restrictions, you can play a sandbox sort of game like Morrowind or Oblivion or Skyrim. Rather than trying to save anything, you can just murder civilians...all. day. long.