Well I think you are the bad guy in Manhunt. Either way that game is extremely brutal and banned in Australia.
Sick of being the good guy!
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The reason why it's hard to create a compelling game where you play as an undeniable evil person who revels in their evil is because it is hard to create a compelling or relate-able evil protagonist. If the protagonist KNOWS they are evil and are committing evil for the sake of evil then it comes off as corny and insincere. If they commit evil so that they might ultimately commit good (see Revan) then they are not really the kind of evil you are looking for. The problem with what you are asking for is that in order for you to join up with the truely "bad" guys your character would have to be completely stupid as you would be shooting yourself in the foot and most likely signing your own death warrant.Karnot said:
It's like asking why you can't play as a zombie in a zombie survival horror game and that's because it's practically impossible to create a compelling character out of a mindless zombie who just follows orders/hunger and the game would have no staying power because nobody could relate to or feel any connection to any of the characters.
Probably the most compelling realistic "evil" characters you play as are characters who simply follow orders and do as they are told because they don't have the courage to resist the system they are controlled by. The problem with characters like these is that they tend to be very cowardly and uninteresting because they avoid conflict and conflict is what pretty much constitutes the majority of any story so it's hard to work with a character like that. So in order to fix this the game usually makes them a "good" person who is asked to do evil things and then has to deal with the internal conflict of whether to carry out his orders or to resist the system at his own detriment.
Prototype is probably the best example I can think of at the moment in which a game creates a relate-able (if slightly insane) character who is evil. The game accomplishes this by making you think that you are the good guy by having you fight seemingly evil people who are trying to hurt you and it's only after you step back and really look at what you've been doing that you see just how evil you really are.
SC2: HotS when it comes out, Zerg are pretty damn evil.
Other than that.... it's hard to say, evil seems rather ambiguous in this context. Empire: Total War is about trying to conquer lands, does that count? Maybe Carmageddon, surely that counts? It's violent certainly, but it's more gratuitous violence than evil violence. Hm.
Other than that.... it's hard to say, evil seems rather ambiguous in this context. Empire: Total War is about trying to conquer lands, does that count? Maybe Carmageddon, surely that counts? It's violent certainly, but it's more gratuitous violence than evil violence. Hm.
Well if you're into something abit retro then how about the game "Evil Genius". You pretty much playing a Jame Bond type of villain as you plan to take over the world!
Nah,you don't play Hitman to be the bad guy,you play Hitman for the stealth,the atmosphere,the assassinations and how you execute them.It's not a game where you can choose to be a dick,even if you have the option going in a killing spree,but I think that takes out the fun out of a stealth game.Reet72 said:
AND while wearing a rather dashing suit too! I loved that game, specially when you could bowl your head at people and piss in a dam to infect a towntippy2k2 said:
KOTOR is a game where you can be evil, I'm not sure how much as I haven't beaten it (yet) but it's there.
Black and White lets you do some fun things. Like set villagers on fire and throwing them into opposing villages to have him light their buildings on fire. Or set wolves on their fleshy asses, or have your creature throw his turds at them.
Yes your doing all this to take down another God but you can chose whether your doing it to stop him and let peace reign or to steal his followers.
Lord of the rings: Battle for middle Earth 1/2 pick evil campaign... done
Skyrim.. ?
Alien Vs Predator 1 & 2 & 2010 - pick alien or predator... and you're a evil mofo
Star Wars: Knights of the old republic... go evil path.. UNLIMITED POWAAAA!!!
Mount & Blade - any of the games and go nuts!
Star Wars: Empire at War - pick empire campaign
what i just could get from the top of my head...
Skyrim.. ?
Alien Vs Predator 1 & 2 & 2010 - pick alien or predator... and you're a evil mofo
Star Wars: Knights of the old republic... go evil path.. UNLIMITED POWAAAA!!!
Mount & Blade - any of the games and go nuts!
Star Wars: Empire at War - pick empire campaign
what i just could get from the top of my head...
New Vegas, period. There is nothing stopping you from slaughtering every man, woman or beast in the ENTIRE game with a variety of entertaining weapons. (Disclaimer: Kids and Yes Man are excluded from the above, and Yes Man only so you can complete the damn game)
Dragon Age DLC where you are a darkspawn and kill the surviving gray wardens. It's called darkspawn chronicles.Karnot said:
or the classic, GTA.
those are the 2 that come to mind.
In all honesty, I think God of War 2 & 3 deserves quite a mention. After simply being a brutal psychotic out for revenge in GoW 1, Kratos turns to the point where he slaughters cities and kills pretty much everything in the greek pantheon, for the sake of... uhm. I'm not quite sure. He seems to be mad because Zeus stabbed him in game 2, something Zeus did for quite obvious reasons (and he survived it anyways), and then he sulks his way through everything and pretty much destroys the entire world in the pettiest quest I can ever remember having played through.
Just to point out a few possibilities:immortalfrieza said:
- Kill (almost) anyone for their loot. (All)
- Kill children (with attacks to the eyes or groin). (FO1/FO2)
- Sell out your people to the mutants and get a long cinematic "enemies win" ending (FO1)
- Sell your party members into slavery (FO2)
- Sell your wife or husband into slavery (FO2)
- Kill a party member in a live vivisection to put their brain in a Robobrain (FO2)
- Cannibalize people (FNV)
- Kill Dr. Mitchell who saved your life and help the Powder Gangers oppress Goodsprings. (FNV)
- Work for Decker, Gizmo and other bad guys (FO1)
- Work for any of the crime families in New Reno, doing hits, framing people, assisting human-testing drug farms, drug running, etc (FO2)
- Betray, fuck over and conspire against countless people and factions (All)
- Ask your party members to hold activated timed explosives (FO1/FO2)
- Become a drug addicted, child killing porn star (FO2)
Yes there are some penalties but also a lot of rewards for being a total bastard. The options exist quite viably: it's not like trying to play a bad guy in Red Dead Redemption.
Have you ever played Neverwinter Nights 2?
The original game comes off as a bit contrived for evil characters, but the expansion, mask of the betrayer, does the 'evil' pathways beautifully. The story and endings make sense for evil characters, and by the end of it the gods themselves are absolutely terrified of the PC.
The original game comes off as a bit contrived for evil characters, but the expansion, mask of the betrayer, does the 'evil' pathways beautifully. The story and endings make sense for evil characters, and by the end of it the gods themselves are absolutely terrified of the PC.
Well, you could try Evil Genius. You get to take over the world with hilarious mission. Like injecting Pamplona bulls with steroids.
Or well, having your minions do it.
Also, if you like MMOs, you could try EVE online.
You get to be as much of an asshole to real people as you want and you can scam them as much as you want.
Or you could be an honest miner...
Or well, having your minions do it.
Also, if you like MMOs, you could try EVE online.
You get to be as much of an asshole to real people as you want and you can scam them as much as you want.
Or you could be an honest miner...
