Skinny bad, fat is good lol

[slypizza]

Yaay another controversial topic ( or at least to %70 of people )

I'll make this super short , we all know what the media boosts day in and day out all year when it comes to models or fashion basically women with no bust no butt and looking they starved themselves for 3 months, and for men..oh wait there isn't an ideal image for a man my bad xD *sarcasm*

case in point most people (I'm guessing) don't go for girls who have..basically nothing I have a sister whos pencil thin when I hug her I feel like I'm hugging a board ,I know we don't pay mind to a lot of magazines today but heres my question would you think the media would jump on the bandwagon that being skinny isn't the ideal image anymore

and take this is in all forms, games/movies/books whatever being an anorexic has been the going trend since forever I believe there are a handful that like girls who have some weight on them and the same goes for men ( even tho it may be the opposite because every male seems to be fat these days..) so you think the media will jump on the bandwagon and change its marketing idea or at least add to it or will they stay to what they'll always been doing and keep beating the dead horse until its body decays into the dirt.

Edit" and before everyone starts pounding away " so your saying obese is a good thing" when I say fat I mean something small chubby/husky small levels of course I'm not for obesity..

 

[Thaluikhain]

People have been trying to get the media to change for years.

It's come to the extent that largish healthy sizes are condemned as death fats. You'll also note that the usual response to fat people is to say they are a disgusting blight on society, because this time when we say it, it'll fix something, unlike the hundred times before that.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

You know, after reading that, I get the feeling that something has been overlooked.

I can't quite put my finger on it.

If only there was weight between 'pencil thin' and 'chunky monkey', that everyone should strive for...

¬_¬

 

[Calibanbutcher]

You know, after reading that, I get the feeling that something has been overlooked.

I can't quite put my finger on it.

If only there was weight between 'pencil thin' and 'chunky monkey', that everyone should strive for...

¬_¬

Good god man, what are you, some kind of mad man?
A moderate middle-ground?
Heresy, someone get me an exorcist, this man is clearly possessed.

 

[Thaluikhain]

You know, after reading that, I get the feeling that something has been overlooked.

I can't quite put my finger on it.

If only there was weight between 'pencil thin' and 'chunky monkey', that everyone should strive for...

¬_¬

Or perhaps, if people weren't obliged to fit into someone else's ideas of what their body should be.

 

[Quaxar]

Historically, being "fat" has been a standard of beauty for a very long time (the <url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_of_Willendorf>Venus of Willendorf is more than 20.000 years old) because fat was wealth in a society where resources were scarce.
Now during the Victorian Era in Europe the image went from fat as a symbol of wealth to being skinny as a symbol of being civilised, because even though you had the food you were civil enough to resist it. This is also around the same time where having extensive lawns became a trend, because you could show you were so wealthy you had no need for growing any food on your land.
Many island populations that naturally have less food have and do still regard more weight as more desireable. Not that their opinions mattered compared with the vast European colonial empires.

And in a society where fatty, sugary and generally unhealthy food is cheap and being active and healthy requires time, money and effort are you really wondering why being skinny is a desireable status symbol?
No wonder especially in women there is an inverse correlation between weight and education & income.

 

[Whitbane]

Screw the media, I'll like what I want.

 

[hazabaza1]

You know, after reading that, I get the feeling that something has been overlooked.

I can't quite put my finger on it.

If only there was weight between 'pencil thin' and 'chunky monkey', that everyone should strive for...

¬_¬

Pencil Monkey?

Yeah, that sounds right. Let's all strive to become pencil monkeys!

This is the first thing I found when google image searching "pencil monkey".

Truly, all of humanity would benefit were this change to occur.

 

[Realitycrash]

You know, after reading that, I get the feeling that something has been overlooked.

I can't quite put my finger on it.

If only there was weight between 'pencil thin' and 'chunky monkey', that everyone should strive for...

¬_¬

Or perhaps, if people weren't obliged to fit into someone else's ideas of what their body should be.

Define 'obliged', though. Society doesn't 'oblige' anyone, it just strongly encourages.

 

[Thaluikhain]

You know, after reading that, I get the feeling that something has been overlooked.

I can't quite put my finger on it.

If only there was weight between 'pencil thin' and 'chunky monkey', that everyone should strive for...

¬_¬

Or perhaps, if people weren't obliged to fit into someone else's ideas of what their body should be.

Define 'obliged', though. Society doesn't 'oblige' anyone, it just strongly encourages.

Daystar Clarion said "that everyone should strive for", that was what I was responding to.

Though, I'd say the difference between being obliged and being very strongly encouraged is a bit vague an tenuous.

 

[Realitycrash]

You know, after reading that, I get the feeling that something has been overlooked.

I can't quite put my finger on it.

If only there was weight between 'pencil thin' and 'chunky monkey', that everyone should strive for...

¬_¬

Or perhaps, if people weren't obliged to fit into someone else's ideas of what their body should be.

Define 'obliged', though. Society doesn't 'oblige' anyone, it just strongly encourages.

Daystar Clarion said "that everyone should strive for", that was what I was responding to.

Though, I'd say the difference between being obliged and being very strongly encouraged is a bit vague an tenuous.

If you fit societies ideal, you get perks in most social situations (work, partners, etc). Dreaming of the day society doesn't have an ideal is like dreaming of the day pigs will fly. It won't happen. Every society has a set or prerogatives that are in general arbitrary and probably counter-productive to its own success and happiness. It's not that we shouldn't condemn them, it's just that we really can't make them truly go away.

Edit: Even if societies ideal was the 'healthy' one, people would still stress to be 'ideal'.

 

[Thaluikhain]

You know, after reading that, I get the feeling that something has been overlooked.

I can't quite put my finger on it.

If only there was weight between 'pencil thin' and 'chunky monkey', that everyone should strive for...

¬_¬

Or perhaps, if people weren't obliged to fit into someone else's ideas of what their body should be.

Define 'obliged', though. Society doesn't 'oblige' anyone, it just strongly encourages.

Daystar Clarion said "that everyone should strive for", that was what I was responding to.

Though, I'd say the difference between being obliged and being very strongly encouraged is a bit vague an tenuous.

If you fit societies ideal, you get perks in most social situations (work, partners, etc). Dreaming of the day society doesn't have an ideal is like dreaming of the day pigs will fly. It won't happen. Every society has a set or prerogatives that are in general arbitrary and probably counter-productive to its own success and happiness. It's not that we shouldn't condemn them, it's just that we really can't make them truly go away.

Certainly, but the effects and pressure to conform could be minimised.

 

[HardkorSB]

People have been trying to get the media to change for years.

The media change all the time.
Most people bitching about weight issues in the media however, either do it in their homes or write random comments on the internet. That doesn't change anything.
Also, you don't really see as much anorexic women on TV as you would in the 80's and 90's.
Now (at least form what I've seen) people are getting obsessed with going to the gym, playing sports, zumba, dancing and other stuff that keeps you healthy.
Most women I've met over the past few years do some kind of physical activity and they do it pretty often. I haven't met many women who want to be skinny (at least not skinny in a supermodel kind of way).

It's come to the extent that largish healthy sizes are condemned as death fats. You'll also note that the usual response to fat people is to say they are a disgusting blight on society

That's like saying that the usual beliefs of a Christian are those of a WBC member.
People don't care, for the most part, as long as it's not an inconvenience (for example, if you can't work as fast a you're expected to or you get tired and have to rest after 10 minutes of walking). Sure, fat people may not be able to turn people on all that much but in day to day lives, it really doesn't matter.

 

[Wadders]

You know, after reading that, I get the feeling that something has been overlooked.

I can't quite put my finger on it.

If only there was weight between 'pencil thin' and 'chunky monkey', that everyone should strive for...

¬_¬

As long their current size is not detrimental to their health, why should a person have to 'strive' for any weight?

 

[SaetonChapelle]

Everyone has their own definition of what makes someone attractive.

Also, there are ideal images for men. Men "should be" of a larger build, muscular, and attractive (tones, double chin perhaps). Although less then females, males also have body images and suffer from various image disorders.

In many instances our media does promote women who are "more full". However in the fashion media it is easier for people to fit models that don't have many curves. A curvy women is significantly more of a pain to work with, especially for seeming. And at times models change, so to have a group of women who have the same basic size and shape makes things much easier. Yeah, it doesn't help others self esteems due to this lack of knowledge in the area, but its why it's so popular.

I'm starting to see curvier women as being more attractive in the media and basically all around as of late. Maybe it's just me.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

You know, after reading that, I get the feeling that something has been overlooked.

I can't quite put my finger on it.

If only there was weight between 'pencil thin' and 'chunky monkey', that everyone should strive for...

¬_¬

I think most people are too scared of the word 'normal' at this point to talk about anything but being either anorexic or overweight.

 

[R.Nevermore]

I've never understood the obsession with changing what society finds attractive that so many liberals have. I would consider myself as liberal as the next man but I am also able to admit that I prefer my girls skinny. There's a line that can be crossed of course when it begins to look unhealthy, but it is possible to maintain looking skinny while being healthy also.

Of course I am told by many 'progressive thinkers' that I am bad for having this preference and that I am the reason girls starve themselves, or simply that I've been brainwashed by the media.

Perhaps... perhaps society in general agrees with me? It's a subjective thing after all... Maybe people just find skinny girls more sexually appealing. Why must those who believe what I believe be demonized for what we believe?

 

[juraigamer]

Very skinny is bad, very fat is bad.

In terms of the medical realm, somewhere between those, but closer to skinny is the healthiest.