Skinny bad, fat is good lol

[The White Hunter]

You know, after reading that, I get the feeling that something has been overlooked.

I can't quite put my finger on it.

If only there was weight between 'pencil thin' and 'chunky monkey', that everyone should strive for...

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As long their current size is not detrimental to their health, why should a person have to 'strive' for any weight?

Kind of the point I was making.

Any weight that isn't ideal for your height is detrimental to your health.

May I add that it's not even like that healthy weight area is particularly small or requires ahuge amount of maintenance. If I recall correctly if you're 5'10/5'11 and a 20 something male it's anywhere between 9 and a half stone and 12 stone 2 pounds.

Pretty easy mark to hit...

Exactly, it's not exactly a narrow margin either way.

Pretty much, I only know because I was around 14 stone and made the commitment to get off my ass and stop being so god damn fat all the time.

It's surprisingly easy to maintain a healthy weight once you actually try ¬_¬

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

It's surprisingly easy to maintain a healthy weight once you actually try ¬_¬

I managed to gain a reasonable amount of muscle mass to turn me from a weeny stick into an average body build just by actually trying to do regular exercise. Its just nice not to be weaker or slower than other people. I dont understand how being LESS able to do things can be seen as good. I wont demonise people or whatever but its nice to be able to run for the train without almost passing out.

 

[The White Hunter]

It's surprisingly easy to maintain a healthy weight once you actually try ¬_¬

I managed to gain a reasonable amount of muscle mass to turn me from a weeny stick into an average body build just by actually trying to do regular exercise. Its just nice not to be weaker or slower than other people. I dont understand how being LESS able to do things can be seen as good. I wont demonise people or whatever but its nice to be able to run for the train without almost passing out.

Yeah I'm now at the very healthy 10 stone and 8 pounds with no real excess body fat left. It's good now I can do things like run for a train I also look better and feel much better about myself. It's not hard to work up a sweat regularly and build some muscle power.

 

[Toilet]

It's surprisingly easy to maintain a healthy weight once you actually try ¬_¬

I managed to gain a reasonable amount of muscle mass to turn me from a weeny stick into an average body build just by actually trying to do regular exercise. Its just nice not to be weaker or slower than other people. I dont understand how being LESS able to do things can be seen as good. I wont demonise people or whatever but its nice to be able to run for the train without almost passing out.

Yeah I'm now at the very healthy 10 stone and 8 pounds with no real excess body fat left. It's good now I can do things like run for a train I also look better and feel much better about myself. It's not hard to work up a sweat regularly and build some muscle power.

Agreed, I started running regularly in August, it has become quite addictive and has been a part of my regular routine for long enough that I feel bad if I don't get the daily rush. I also do general push ups, sit ups, squats and pull ups as well to get some definition on me. It makes me feel nice and I don't tend to have much junk food either, the worst thing I tend to regularly eat is a bowl of Crunchy Nut cereal.

It doesn't feel good being stagnant and unhealthy, I cannot stomach fast food anymore and to keep myself from being stagnant I make challenges out of it like seeing how many push ups I can do during a loading screen. Seriously if you play video games regularly try it.

Also this fat acceptance bullshit I see around is laughable, last time I weighed myself I was hovering around the 9 stone mark and back when I was 16 I used to be about 14 stone and get fish and chips regularly at lunch while I was at school. Just to clarify I am 5'8" and they call me Mr Weetabix now because I am low in fat and shredded.

 

[The White Hunter]

It's surprisingly easy to maintain a healthy weight once you actually try ¬_¬

I managed to gain a reasonable amount of muscle mass to turn me from a weeny stick into an average body build just by actually trying to do regular exercise. Its just nice not to be weaker or slower than other people. I dont understand how being LESS able to do things can be seen as good. I wont demonise people or whatever but its nice to be able to run for the train without almost passing out.

Yeah I'm now at the very healthy 10 stone and 8 pounds with no real excess body fat left. It's good now I can do things like run for a train I also look better and feel much better about myself. It's not hard to work up a sweat regularly and build some muscle power.

Agreed, I started running regularly in August, it has become quite addictive and has been a part of my regular routine for long enough that I feel bad if I don't get the daily rush. I also do general push ups, sit ups, squats and pull ups as well to get some definition on me. It makes me feel nice and I don't tend to have much junk food either, the worst thing I tend to regularly eat is a bowl of Crunchy Nut cereal.

It doesn't feel good being stagnant and unhealthy, I cannot stomach fast food anymore and to keep myself from being stagnant I make challenges out of it like seeing how many push ups I can do during a loading screen. Seriously if you play video games regularly try it.

Also this fat acceptance bullshit I see around is laughable, last time I weighed myself I was hovering around the 9 stone mark and back when I was 16 I used to be about 14 stone and get fish and chips regularly at lunch while I was at school. Just to clarify I am 5'8" and they call me Mr Weetabix now because I am low in fat and shredded.

I do a good twenty to thirty minutes of solid exercise every few days, it was every days but now it's more maintenance than trying to lose as much as possible. I stopped drinking and eating crap food as much too. I regularly do crunches, squats, pushups, a few leg specific exercises and a few for my back aswell as tricep dips, in short but very intense sessions.

I may well try doing crunches at loading screens and things that sounds like a lot of fun I'm not ripped and I don't have a six pack but then I don't want that, I'm fairly muscular and strong with a lot more endurance and stamina than I ever used to have. Would be nice if my fat friend didn't keep telling me I don't excercise right when he's a tub of lard though, same as it'd be nice if he didn't act like he's a heavyweight champ when I used to kick his ass all the time

Capcha: Easy as cake. well capcha, I advise replacing that cake with some cereal or fruit

Edit: Thankl god that got thought I though my wifi cannibalized it -____-

 

[DkLnBr]

You know, after reading that, I get the feeling that something has been overlooked.

I can't quite put my finger on it.

If only there was weight between 'pencil thin' and 'chunky monkey', that everyone should strive for...

¬_¬

This. Going overboard on the port side is no better than going overboard on the starboard side. Sure they're opposite sides, but you're still going to end up in the water [/analogy]. It doesn't always have to be between the extremes, there is a middle ground

 

[Boris Goodenough]

There was a recent study that said the peak BMI (in terms of lifespan) for women would be 22.5 and 24.5 for men, with little to no negative effects up until 27.
Also BMI can only be used if you don't bulk up.

 

[Gamer_152]

I think it's a reasonably small portion of the idealised women in the media that are actually size zeros, and a reasonably small portion of the female population who've actually wanted to reach that weight, I don't think this is something new. However, the media isn't going to change any time soon and we're far from skinny female bodies not being the idealised image anymore. Additionally, your point about people saying there's no idealised male image is a strawman, and it must be acknowledged that there aren't nearly the same expectations of men that there are of women.

 

[rob_simple]

I'll make this super short , we all know what the media boosts day in and day out all year when it comes to models or fashion basically women with no bust no butt and looking they starved themselves for 3 months, and for men..oh wait there isn't an ideal image for a man my bad xD *sarcasm*

Well, that's bullshit.

Look at the cover of a fitness magazine and you'll see guys with washboard abs and pecs you could use as a shelf. What kind of men are most revered in Hollywood? The good-looking, built ones like Gerard Butler and Ryan Gosling. Who do we use when we need a fall-guy to poke fun at? Usually some fat schmuck or weird beanpole like Wayne Knight or Stephen Merchant (I a fan of both, just making a point here).

As far as I'm aware, there has never been a woman's magazine that has out and out said, 'you need to look like this to be beautiful,' although admittedly that idea has become more ingrained in society, but to say there is no male equivalent is utter nonsense.

I would be genuinely interested to know how many people actually think a catwalk model like Kate Moss is more attractive than sultry pudding-enthusiast, Nigella Lawson.

 

[Dead Seerius]

So what you're saying is ... The media should still glorify a certain body image? And, what's that, we're back to square one?

How about we not make any body image 'perfect' and instead focus on the important thing - Being too skinny is bad for your health. Being too fat is bad for your health. It's reccomended that you keep yourself in good health.
Reccomended. You are free to do what you want with yourself.

 

[Woodsey]

People have been trying to get the media to change for years.

It's come to the extent that largish healthy sizes are condemned as death fats. You'll also note that the usual response to fat people is to say they are a disgusting blight on society, because this time when we say it, it'll fix something, unlike the hundred times before that.

I dunno, I often see stuff that says "look at these gorgeous curvy women!" when they're clearly overweight. Seems to be a fad that fades in and out every few months. Of course it's not good to be genuinely anorexic, but redefining curvy to excuse someone with rolls of fat doesn't do anyone any favours either.

 

[Nigh Invulnerable]

You know, after reading that, I get the feeling that something has been overlooked.

I can't quite put my finger on it.

If only there was weight between 'pencil thin' and 'chunky monkey', that everyone should strive for...

¬_¬

Some kind of happy medium?!? Get out of here, you hippy! ;P

 

[lechat]

So what you're saying is ... The media should still glorify a certain body image? And, what's that, we're back to square one?

How about we not make any body image 'perfect' and instead focus on the important thing - Being too skinny is bad for your health. Being too fat is bad for your health. It's reccomended that you keep yourself in good health.
Reccomended. You are free to do what you want with yourself.

yes the media should glorify a certain body image. i am really getting sick and tired of all the ppl in the media that are obviously overweight and just because they are happy with how they look somehow we should look up to them.
i really don't see the difference in being grossly overweight and being a smoker or a drug addict, in both cases you are lowering your life expectancy and degrading your health

also fuck BMI the only thing that matters in the health of your body when it comes to weight is body fat percentage. for about $30 bucks you can pick up body fat scale or you could just take a look in the mirror and if you see a gut or can grab chucks of fat on your hips and give em a little shake then you are fat

there is also almost no such thing as too skinny. provided you are not anorexic and do actually eat food and don't pass out from going for a walk then you are more than likely healthy

the ideal body fat for men is about 10-20%

the ideal body fat for women is about 20-30%

you may not be ripped at those body fat percentages depending on muscle mass but the numbers basically do not change.

 

[Tentaquil]

Oh man this thread would be rustling my jimmies if it wasn't so hilarious.
/fit/ would have a field day with this.

I'm just gonna say that it takes hard work to be healthy, and laziness and sloth to be unhealthy.

 

[Dead Seerius]

So what you're saying is ... The media should still glorify a certain body image? And, what's that, we're back to square one?

How about we not make any body image 'perfect' and instead focus on the important thing - Being too skinny is bad for your health. Being too fat is bad for your health. It's reccomended that you keep yourself in good health.
Reccomended. You are free to do what you want with yourself.

yes the media should glorify a certain body image. i am really getting sick and tired of all the ppl in the media that are obviously overweight and just because they are happy with how they look somehow we should look up to them.
i really don't see the difference in being grossly overweight and being a smoker or a drug addict, in both cases you are lowering your life expectancy and degrading your health

also fuck BMI the only thing that matters in the health of your body when it comes to weight is body fat percentage. for about $30 bucks you can pick up body fat scale or you could just take a look in the mirror and if you see a gut or can grab chucks of fat on your hips and give em a little shake then you are fat

there is also almost no such thing as too skinny. provided you are not anorexic and do actually eat food and don't pass out from going for a walk then you are more than likely healthy

Perhaps our definitions of 'glorify' are different because I agree with what you said you mostly. I'm not saying the media should de-emphasize the benefits of being in shape or tell everyone "hey, it's cool to be fat!" or something like that. Like you and I both said, being overweight isn't good for your health. I'm glad the media promotes being in shape.

By 'glorify' I mean give the impression that if you don't look like the people on the cover of the magazines, you're not beautiful/you need to look like those people. Granted, I doubt we'll see the day where the public sees being overweight as unanimously attractive; I was being theoretical to point out the flaw in the OP's logic.

And by 'too skinny' I was implying anorexia, with bulimia also being quite bad for your health. A bit on the extreme side, but that'd be 'too' skinny for ya.

 

[DarkRyter]

Nothing is bad or good. No one decides that. Especially not society.

 

[Paradoxrifts]

The only opinion you should never ignore about your weight is that of your general practitioner. It's that fucking simple.

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[lechat]

The only opinion you should never ignore about your weight is that of your general practitioner. It's that fucking simple.

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damn that pretty much would be /thread except from my experiance GPs are far to kind in saying the blatantly obvious of "you should really lose some weight"