Skyrim and fallout 4 VR.

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sXeth

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Lufia Erim said:
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well fallout 4 VR is the first game to make me pause and honestly consider getting VR
Oh yeah, sure. The prospect of sweating my ass off under an uncomfortable pair of goggles for hours with a bucket in front of me for the inevitable attack of motion sickness really makes me crave that VR experience.

Like, I don't get it. Is there even a game released after 2010 which is less suited to VR? Fallout and Elder Scrolls are games you play for hours on end and they both have super shitty graphics. You also spend ages flicking through menus in both, whether you're in combat, crafting something or gathering loot. Those are all arguments AGAINST VR. The Doom one I get, but these 2 open world titles? Its gonna crash and burn. There is no way to make Skyrim VR tolerable enough to convince someone to put 100 hours into it, but that directly contradicts its quantity over quality design.
Honestly, i think people want an open world VR title probably just as much as they want a online MMO in VR. I'll be honest, i have absolutely no idea how it will look, or play in VR. However, personally, a game like this is a dream come true. Being able to explore caves and temples, climb mountains, fight dragons. Its like DnD without the imagination. Hell i might just sit on top of a mountain and read the in game books.

It's the potential, the possibilities that makes me excited. I don't expect it to be perfect. I expect some clunk, but to me, it feels like the first step in the direction of true open world VR rexperiences.

Imagine this game does well, and besthesday decides to make a team dedicated to building a true open world game from the ground up for VR. That gets me excited. Sure regular games are here to stay, but think there is definitely a market for this.
The bit about reading the books kind of highlights the issue. Books in Skyrim are just 2d popups. There's nothing vaguely about them thats suited to a VR experience. Other then being in a 3d world viewed from first-person (and the minute you put on VR glasses you're gonna notice how out of position the viewpoint is), nothing about either game is setup to work with VR.

There's a distant possibility that they've actually been doing the work behind the scenes to overhaul the games, and aren't just dumping a slightly altered aspect ratio variation out. But the timing doesn't seem likely to allow for it, especially with it being two games and not just one.
 

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Lufia Erim said:
So over the course of E3 we got to see a couple of interesting VR titles. But the two that seem to be hyped up the most are Skyrim( PSVR) and Fall out 4 ( Vive/OCCULUS).

I have to admit, Skyrim has made me want to buy a PSVR. I was on the fence before ( i made another thread about VR not too long ago), but now i think I'm ready to take the plunge. I am so excited for this game, and am glad i didn't buy the remaster for ps4.
People are 'hyping' a six year old game that was never intended to be in VR? I don't get that impression at all, but jeese, if this is a shot in the arm at all to VR then things seem pretty desperate.

Personally, I couldn't return to that game without mods. In VR it would be a novelty - which seems appropriate. Fallout 4's different, as I've got plenty of hours left in that thing, but the same fundamental issues about what on earth it actually adds or changes arise.

I this going to be the system seller we need?
What's this "we"... Many people just don't give a toss about VR. At this point in gaming evolution it's tantamount to a semi-formed [yet already divided] medium of its own - and it is having to interface with established platforms that were never designed with it in mind. This current attempt at making VR a 'thing' is like trying to push square pegs into round holes.
 

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Skyrim VR has me interested, because it would be so gorgeous and I think I'd spend hours playing it. Fallout 4 not so much. Now if they did Fallout 3 VR I'd be sold in a heartbeat.
 

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I've said this many times to many people and I'm saying it again to you all, I do not have enough life left in me to play through Skyrim again.

Fallout 4 in VR is a tempting prospect though. However, it is not going to get me to buy a VR set. Why not? Ok, lets go down the Sony avenue with this as it will probably be the cheapest option (I haven't done any research on the matter, please don't go jumping all over me). For the best quality experience, you need a PS4 Pro because that's what the console was made for. You also need the goggles, the camera and the Move controllers. This in all comes to about ?700 - ?800.

Fuck that, I will stick with my standard PS4 and TV thanks very much.
 

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MC1980 said:
The expensive VR shit should be all about the virtual screens like monitors or TVs in an AR enviroment, so that it can supplant them. Then the convenience functions, like virtual shopping and concerts. Then a host of other things before games. But that's something the gaming focused side blinded themselves to, leading to here, you asking if after a dozen other games, is this the one to finally validate you. It won't.
Virtual screens like monitors or TVs in an AR environment is just plainly AR. You cannot use VR and AR synonymously, VR is being placed in a computer generated environment like the holodeck in Star Trek (if we were to push the boundaries of physics) and AR is simply existing in the real world with added modification to the environment realistically known as terminator vision and idealistically a holodeck without having to push boundaries of physics.
 

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Wow, so much hate...

I for one can't wait to try Fallout 4 in VR. Is it the best Fallout game? No, but it is still a fun game, I like it.

I actually do own a Vive, and up until now I have been a bit on the fence if it was worth it or not due to the lack of actual games for it. All the "demos" are fun and all but nothing that really grabs me for any length of time. Mostly I used it for Elite: Dangerous, but felt a bit iffy about not getting to use the thing to its full potential with roomscale and all, as you mostly just sit in a chair.

Then I finally got to try Minecraft in VR in my new apartment with a decent sized room setup.. Say what you will, but that right there is something else, and if that is what I'll get with Fallout 4 I'll be very happy. I mean I have played my fair share of Minecraft in the past, but playing it like that feels very different and new.
Sure all it is is a change to your point of view, but it makes a huge difference to the whole experience.
As for strapping a thing to my face? Not a big problem when I forget it's there.

There is one big issue with VR though, and that is movement. I hope they find a good way to move about in a open world soon, because teleporting is weird and sliding around can quickly make you motion sick.

In any case, I think just simply adding VR to already finished games is a good idea as long as you put some work into it.
While I'd love to see more new games designed for VR, we desperately need more full length games out there. Adding it to popular games is the easiest way to do it, as you don't have to develop all the content. And who cares if it's an older game? A good game is a good game dammit.
 

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I've already exhausted both Skyrim and Fallout 4 of all content. I'm not playing through either one of those games again. Nothing about this excites me. VR really needs a killer app of its own designed for VR from the ground up. Then it's got to get fantastic reviews followed by great word of mouth. Then I might start to consider it. Until then, I'll just remain optimistic about it and hang onto my wallet.