Skyrim DLC (or lack thereof on PS3)

[babinro]

IMO, if a company isn't going to treat the system with respect they shouldn't release the game for it.

We've seen this countless times with games on the Wii compared to their PS3/Xbox counterparts.
On occasion we see this on PC games from PS3/Xbox counterparts.
This is a rare case of it being very different from PS3 to Xbox.

Beyond being vocal about it, I sincerely hope gamers vote with their wallets.
If/when the DLC or a GOTY edition comes out on PS3 DON'T buy it if you disagree with these practices.
Don't complain only to give the company more money...it sends the wrong message.

 

[Lazy Kitty]

Well, I feel kind of sorry for PS3 pea- users.
Having to deal with so many bugs on a system that's apparently pretty hard to work with.
At least we have mods.
*puts on pc elitist club monocle*

 

[Defenestra]

I really don't think they're not releasing on PS3 out of malice or a crippling fear of money. If it's not out, it's because they can't make it work yet. I might have to call this a step up in terms of responsible behaviour, now that I think back to the swarm of bugs in New Vegas when it first came out.

'course, I play mostly on PC, so it's not like I, personally, have been denied access to the DLC. Not that I've bought it yet. I do intend to pick some of them up, though if I want to build a house, I'll play Minecraft.

 

[SoulSalmon]

It seems people don't know the full story here.
Short version: Microsoft pushed Bethesda into a contract that meant they had to release everything for the 360 before the other consoles (at least 30 days). The details aren't too well known beyond that, but that's why there's a delay on PC releases.
As for the PS3, it's simply not familiar ground. You can argue that it's incapability on Bethesda's part but despite how much they tried they simply couldn't get all of their code to play nice on a PS3.

Anyone who's played the PS3 version can attest to how buggy it can be, really strange combinations like buying an iron ingot in Solitude while a Dark Brotherhood quest is running and you have cheese in your favourites can cause a memory error, and they can't feasibly test every combination possible. And as you can imagine, it only gets worse as they add more variables (DLC).
Ultimately the 'blame' lies with Bethesda for not being familiar enough with the PS3 or hiring some people who were, but it's not like they just up and decided "You know what'd be awesome? pissing off PS3 users!".

 

[Alandoril]

It seems people don't know the full story here.
Short version: Microsoft pushed Bethesda into a contract that meant they had to release everything for the 360 before the other consoles (at least 30 days). The details aren't too well known beyond that, but that's why there's a delay on PC releases.
As for the PS3, it's simply not familiar ground. You can argue that it's incapability on Bethesda's part but despite how much they tried they simply couldn't get all of their code to play nice on a PS3.

Anyone who's played the PS3 version can attest to how buggy it can be, really strange combinations like buying an iron ingot in Solitude while a Dark Brotherhood quest is running and you have cheese in your favourites can cause a memory error, and they can't feasibly test every combination possible. And as you can imagine, it only gets worse as they add more variables (DLC).
Ultimately the 'blame' lies with Bethesda for not being familiar enough with the PS3 or hiring some people who were, but it's not like they just up and decided "You know what'd be awesome? pissing off PS3 users!".

But essentially, that is exactly what they said by not bothering to deal with it in the first place. And the way they've handled it is nothing short of arrogant.

 

[SoulSalmon]

But essentially, that is exactly what they said by not bothering to deal with it in the first place. And the way they've handled it is nothing short of arrogant.

Arrogant huh? so can you how me some examples of that? a post by someone representing them that's basically told PS3 users that it's their fault?

If asking for some help is arrogant then I shed a tear for future titles, they only want people to upload their save files so that they can dissect them and figure out what you're doing that the PS3 can't handle, they might have never tested storing Skooma in a corpse in Sovngarde while you have a Whiterun Guards shield stored in Honeyside, and the only way they're gonna find out that that causes issues is if someone else comes across it.

 

[Zeckt]

Why don't you just purchase the game on the console it was made for?

Because not all of us have that console.

Me, I've done pretty much what one consumer can. Sold my copy, deleted my info, never buying another Bethesda product again. It's fairly clear they don't value my money as much as they value PC or Xbox customers.

Oh well, I guess you could play the OTHER massively open ended single player fantasy rpg. Oh wait, there aren't any anymore.

They lose both ways with your types. They are arrogant if they say they won't bother with the dlc on ps3, but they are also arrogant for admitting there is a problem. Double standard much? I honestly have a very low opinion of people who refuse to play good and fun games simply because they have a problem with the company. No matter how much you say you hate bethesda, the game is still GOOD AND FUN! so enjoy missing out on something you would really enjoy I guess?

 

[Milanezi]

What I think is that we players of Bethesda games do not complain as much as we should. Bethesda's Fallout 3 was filled with game crippling bugs, so was Skyrim (and I understand Oblivion as well). Now they can't find a way to fit the DLC's into PS3, ripping PS3 owners off a large portion of the the game: it's one thing to release a game and say "Xbox 360 will have EXCLUSIVE DLC", Ps3 owners won't EXPECT the DLC, they might get pissed at Bethesda, but at least they knew what was coming, it's another thing entirely to say "Everyone gets DLC", and then just don't do it.

PC users get the privilege of creation kits and stuff... But even those who point THAT out must understand, mods and creation kits are non-official, what about people who only want the official stuff? Again, the PROMISED official stuff.

I feel we attack EA so much, but even though they really deserve it at times, Bethesda deserves just as much (if not even more so), after all, they're gorgeous RPG are known for being, at times, almost unplayable at launch...

 

[GonzoGamer]

I dont really care anymore, I had enough Bethesda games on PS3 with Fallout 3 GOTY. I was originally planning to buy Skyrim, then I heard it doesnt work correctly either, so I looked up New Vegas Ultimate Edition which turned out is worse then 3, so I made the conclusion: F*** you Bethesda. My PC could run all of them, but no, you wont get any money from me, if you dont care, why should I? Screw you, I will play your games on my friends X360, for free, almost done with Oblivion...

That's pretty much how I feel. I've played enough Bethesda games on the PS3 to know what to expect.
Fallout 3 is one of my favorites from this gen but their games work so poorly, I only borrowed Skyrim.

Frankly, I think they just can't get the game to run properly on the ps3 with dlc so maybe it's for the best. Better to be neglected than to be lured in to paying money for torture.

 

[zehydra]

Honestly it should have never been released on the PS3. PS3 couldn't handle it.

 

[Lionsfan1986]

I traded in my copy of Skyrim out of protest. So I think of this as too little too late for me! So what ever is what i say!

 

[Knight Captain Kerr]

I'm thinking we will have to wait for the GOTY edition to get all the DLC.

 

[Ed130 The Vanguard]

I'm thinking we will have to wait for the GOTY edition to get all the DLC.

The way things are going I don't think they will bother with a GOTY PS3 release.

 

[Rickolas Walrus]

Honestly it should have never been released on the PS3. PS3 couldn't handle it.

What makes you say that?

If it's from a technical standpoint, I mentioned in my last post that my friend who owns Skyrim on 360 has had exponentially more problems with it than I have. Going further, he's been through at least three 360's in a four year period: system freezing, shutting off on it's own, red ring of death. Myself on the other hand am admittedly on my second PS3, however the only reason I'm on my second is the fact that my first PS3 broke during transport: I had it in a box in the back seat of the car when someone in front of me slammed on their breaks, causing me to slam on my breaks, which in turn caused the box to fly forward on the floor and it no longer would read any type of disc since then. Therefore I sent it in and Sony sent me a replacement, which has yet to perform any way other than perfect

If you're just one of those people that needs to defend whatever decision they made as the "correct" one no matter what, then do us all a favor and at least TRY to back up a statement like this in the future please

 

[Icehearted]

I dont really care anymore, I had enough Bethesda games on PS3 with Fallout 3 GOTY. I was originally planning to buy Skyrim, then I heard it doesnt work correctly either, so I looked up New Vegas Ultimate Edition which turned out is worse then 3, so I made the conclusion: F*** you Bethesda. My PC could run all of them, but no, you wont get any money from me, if you dont care, why should I? Screw you, I will play your games on my friends X360, for free, almost done with Oblivion...

I got New Vegas Ultimate Edition for PS3 not too long ago. put over 20 hours in so far without a single problem. I read that it has issues for some users but I honestly have no idea. Mine has run perfectly fine thus far. I have a newer model ps3 if that makes any difference.

Mine froze and crashed a lot, especially as zones loaded, and often entering new areas. Great Khan Encampment, Vault 19, Hidden Valley Bunkers, and a couple of cliffs would crash or freeze the game nearly every time I went there. Yes I was patched, I even tried unpatched, to no avail. The stuttering got pretty bad too, but mostly I was just trying to get from one area to another without having my game cave in on itself.


As for Skyrim, I've moved on. Bethesda's commitment to releasing unfinished games for the price of a finished game, I've come to expect no better of them at this point. I got the game for the console because I can't afford the uberPC these games demand, and was willing to take the graphical hit for the chance to play the game, only to learn they screwed this up to. They are solely to blame, they knew they hardware, they should have made the game work properly or not bothered at all, and blaming the console is like a kid blaming the lines on his coloring book whenever he colors outside of those lines. DLC over a year later for a game that still doesn't work right? Give me a break.

 

[Kalamala7]

But essentially, that is exactly what they said by not bothering to deal with it in the first place. And the way they've handled it is nothing short of arrogant.

Listen, as much as I hate to single you out, I can't be bothered to find all the quotes for this post and this whole thread seems to rile people up but this is really a post for multiple people to pay attention to but you're talking about how Bethesda is handling this arrogantly... how? By lavishing apologies on people?

Then another person (Can't remember his/her username and it might not have been here I heard it) said that Bethesda shouldn't have released it till it was ready showing that both sides can be arrogant because if they tried to get all the PS3 bugs fixed (and Bethesda is already lackluster in the bug testing department) then other consoles would have to wait (Angering them) and the game would be delayed (Angering everyone). I'm sorry that PS3 users don't have the frankly bad DlC that Skyrim already has but Bethesda aren't being scared of PS3 and if anyone says that then punch them as there're saying that Bethesda hate making money but they wouldn't postpone everything and make no money at all.

The Exclusivity thing still sucks though I blame Microsoft more for that because they are becoming real dicks as they're changing direction(e.g adverts on the xbox dashboard while we have Xbox Live which we pay for)

 

[RobfromtheGulag]

It sucks, you can't really deny that. But remember when extended versions of games (essentially the same as DLC) were console exclusive? Like Silent Hill 2+ for Xbox? At least they're trying to get it out to everyone. I'm betting it gets to PS3 eventually.

It's also pretty hard to argue that the best version of the game is for PC, what with the mod community, the base graphics, as well as HD texture packs (unofficial), bug workarounds, and anything else I'm forgetting.