Skyrim fanboys, chill out. . .

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Therumancer

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Well the thing is that Skyrim is a case of "there is no reason to try and fix what isn't broken". This type of game is pretty much perfect in of itself for what it's setting out to do. Despite it's simplification with each installment it's one of the few holdouts of real "serious" gaming, since as many reviews point out, it doesn't hold the hands of players and send them on a guided tour of a theme park to all the novel bits. In fact a game of this scale intimidates most casuals, and that is exactly what makes it stand out. I think a lot of casuals (despite what they might think of themselves as) don't like Skyrim for the same reason serious gamers don't like a lot of other games... it's a waste of time and focus that could be going towards something they DO like. Overall it's a bit more fair to lionize/defend Skyrim simply because of the casual domination of the market, and how few 'serious' games there really are. If you had as many games like Skyrim coming out every year as there are shooters, iPhone games, or Social Browser games... they it might be somewhat justified to pick on the community response here.


Truthfully most of the "anyone can play" games like "Modern Warfare", "Uncharted", or "Arkham City" will probably fare better than they should at the end of the year due to being aimed at the much larger, casual market.

Additionally "Game Of The Year Editions" rarely have anything to do with being an actual game of the year by any major voting circuit, everyone releases them. Indeed it's increasinglt rare to see any successful game not release a "game of the year edition" at
some point.

Really, the number of people who probably look at Skyrim and go "OMG, it's too big, too open, too much to do" kind of demonstrate why it's probably the only real contender for serious awards. Basically if a game is embraced heavily by the casual crowd, it's not
going to be a serious game. I mean honestly, while there are young children who DO play serious games, they are pretty rare since it takes an exceptional child. In comparison when you have kids in elementary school successfully mastering the gameplay of things like "Modern Warfare" (enough of them to be an annoying stereotype), regardless of whether they should be experiencing that kind of content, that right there should be a blow against your product, especially if your trying to make pretensions of being some kind of truely exceptional entertainment experience. The praise games like "Uncharted" and "Modern Warfare" get are like showering random episodes of "Barney and Friends" with academy awards, and letting them walk away with "Best Picture" nominations and so on. Such games might be entertaining, but are hardly a credit to the gaming craft and what it can be, filling the role of a summer kid-flick for all intents and purposes, albiet with the disturbing reality that a lot of adults don't see it that way because of all the snazzy violence.


That's what I think at any rate.
 

Wintermoot

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you DO know that MC gave MW3 a 88/100 right? Metacritic is unreliable when it comes to scoring (unless you look at the user reviews)
 

Burningsok

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Ruwrak said:
EzraPound said:
Snipped by the UltraSnip (c) For all your Snipping purposes.
HOMGIMGONNAFANBOYOUTONYOUNOW!
YOUNEEDTOCHILLOUTOMGICANTBELIEVEYOU!

Hang on.. That's a rather pleasent post and not a flamestarter..
Redireting arguments...
....done!


Okay in all seriousness, I did expect something else. But let me tell you my personal experience with Metacritic (blah) and Skyrim (yay with a minor 'aw' added)

Sure Skyrim has it's pro's and con's. People claim the graphics suck (playing on an xbox 360 set to 1080p and I am not noticing anything not pretty to the eye.), the combat is dodgy (probably playing it wrong, I myself see no issues with the combat, except that the animation from the 1st perspective is a bit odd.. ho well.) The ai is not the brightest (but let's say that if they were self thinking Skyrim would take over our consoles and PC's and make a new master race with us as slaves.)

Besides. Who the F gives a bleeding Carper about Metacritic anyway. Seriously. If you need to look at something like that to decide of a game suits your taste, you're doing it wrong. People need to stop listening to 'professionals' (and I say it like that because everyone with a computer is a professional these days.) who tell them what game to play. Do some research for yourself. I bought Skyrim (okay so I have the previous installments in several copies...) based on a rationalised choice. I looked into the information that was there, did not get all hyped up for it, and I bought it for a legit reason.

I wanted to have fun in an open world that did not sacrifice story for gameplay and graphics. The result was that Skyrim did not have moving tree's or every leaf was animated, but it had an unlimited drawing distance. The story so far is entertaining and I am happy with it. I really am. Sure the NPC's stand around a bit passive while talking but come on... 'It's Bethesda" what did you expect?

Hrm. Got carried away there, sorry didn't mean to come off as offensive or nagging or annoying but.. Erf, you probably get my point. I'm not a fanboi who will defend the title against all costs (even though I have morrowind + all addons in hard copy, digital download and xbox original. Oblivion as hard copy + expansions on digital download and Xbox 360GOTY.. I guess that does name make me a fanboi?)

It'll probably be a GoTY anyway. And I do agree. If you love a game alot, you also need to be able to critisize it. If you can't you're just lying to yourself telling it's better then it is.

I.e. the things that frustrate me (well it's a big word. More a nagging of some sort)
- The Partner AI is a bit... Durrrrr..
- No more dragging of objects a la Oblivion (or that I have found.)
- The UI... Okay maybe it was the best solution but...

And that's it. Those are the only things that nag me. I can get over them, eventually.
Hope I didn't come off as to nagging or hurtfull. Wasn't really my intention if it happened x.x
Don't worry, you can drag items around. I think you have to get through the beginning though
 

Sizzle Montyjing

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We are not fanboys...
WE. ARE.
[HEADING=1]DOVAHKIIN![/HEADING]
:p

Perosnally, i can't wait to get it, it gets hype for a reason y'know, but i'll be getting it either for my Birthday or Christmas... iron out all the bugs (although, there don't seem to be TOO many)
 

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You know what's the best thing about Skyrim? The dozens of threads filled with rage, qq, fanboys and other amusing stuff.

henritje said:
you DO know that MC gave MW3 a 88/100 right? Metacritic is unreliable when it comes to scoring (unless you look at the user reviews)
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/108482-BioWare-Employee-Busted-in-Dragon-Age-2-Review-Scandal-UPDATED

Come again?
 

Ruwrak

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Burningsok said:
Don't worry, you can drag items around. I think you have to get through the beginning though
Define beginning. Four hours into the game and past the first dragon far enough yet?
:p
 

Yopaz

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henritje said:
you DO know that MC gave MW3 a 88/100 right? Metacritic is unreliable when it comes to scoring (unless you look at the user reviews)
So the duplicates of user reviews pulling the overall score down makes user reviews more reliable? Read through the user reviews and you'll find at least 2 reviews by different users that are worded exactly the same to the letter and the punctuation. You'll even see user reviews for the PS3 version on the site of the Wii version. You'll find no useful reviews at all on Metacritic, but at least gaming magazines pretend they review a game.
 

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bussinroundz said:
Therumancer said:
Despite it's simplification with each installment it's one of the few holdouts of real "serious" gaming, since as many reviews point out, it doesn't hold the hands of players
Doesn't this game have a quest compass leading you around by the nose and health regeneration ?
Hardly leading you around by the nose---you can turn it off, and you get swamped with tasks so quickly that there's no real telling what you should focus on first. There is really no effort put into guiding the player in any particular direction.

The health regeneration is there, but let me tell you, it's extremely slow and will not save you in a fight at all. It just means less potion consumption, really.
 

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EzraPound said:
Vault101 said:
its ok...it will die down..eventually

though I may in fact join the darkside..I palyed some of it in the store...it looked really good
I don't begrudge anyone for buying and enjoying Skyrim--I likely will--but goddamn it, the hype has been suffocating, especially in a year with so much else to talk about.
Very much agreed. And if there's one thing that can kill a game fast it's overhype.

Anyway, I'll probably get Skyrim when this all dies down/it gets patched, I've got Zelda and Arkham city (pc version isn't out yet) to get through first. I think i might just have to avoid the entire internet for a month if I want to escape from the Skyrim posts.
 

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ChupathingyX said:
Uhhh, yes you can.

A game doesn't have to be a massive, open world sandbox game to have heaps of replay value. I still replay my PS1 games every now and then, and they aren't open sandboxes.
Word on that. I beat Sonic Colours a while ago and I'm still running around its 37 levels, and having fun while I'm at it. Whereas, Fallout 3 hardly sucked me in at all; ditto for KotOR and I only do the story missions in Assassin's Creed 2. Unless I see something shiny on the way to a story mission. For that reason, Skyrim can go inhabit 4 million other computers and consoles; mine is a (mostly) sandbox RPG-free zone.
 

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Sizzle Montyjing said:
We are not fanboys...
WE. ARE.
[HEADING=1]DOVAHKIIN![/HEADING]
:p

Perosnally, i can't wait to get it, it gets hype for a reason y'know, but i'll be getting it either for my Birthday or Christmas... iron out all the bugs (although, there don't seem to be TOO many)
Don't worry, it's Bethesda, there's a shit ton of bugs in there somewhere, people just need to look
 

Casual Shinji

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I feel generally sorry for people who have only one game of the year.

I have multiple, and I sleep with them every night.