Captain Pirate said:
Well, I'm sorry if I didn't go through every single one of the posts in this thread,
Hey, no problem, no harm done. I know how things are if you have +/-50 new messages in inbox of one of numerous forums you're logged into.
Captain Pirate said:
JesterRaiin said:
Ok, let's elaborate : how could you/your character possibily know that Alduin wants to destroy world ?
Because, after surviving the attack my character did what he thought was best and warn the nearest city, Whiterun, of the dragons. After helping out around there and slaying a dragon that attacked, he absorbed it's soul and was told he could very well be a Dragonborn. With this, he was advised to see the Greybeards. After meeting a member of the Blades while doing a task for them, he joined her in a dragon hunt. They then looked into the dragon resurrections and discovered that Alduin had returned, as was prophesied. Also in the prophecy was that a Dragonborn would return to fight him.
With that, he saw it as his destiny to stop the destruction of the world, and did so by eventually slaying Alduin.
A-ha. And that what made me wonder, since getting into this part of main quest took me more time than for plenty of people to finish it. I guess that
immersion bows before principle of
inception - there is always deeper level of it. ;p
Captain Pirate said:
Nope, said nothing about time running out actually.,
Sorry. I was mislead by words like "soon", "as swiftly as possible" etc. Language barrier i guess.
Captain Pirate said:
While your character clearly wasn't that interested in why he absorbed a dragon soul or what significance it might have, mine most definitely was, and so his dedication to discover more about the subject led him to, with the help of the Blades and Greybeards, find that Alduin had returned to destroy the world. My character's nature would be to seek to defeat him anyway, but since he was mentioned in the prophecy itself, Dragonborn, he felt a personal duty to save the world.[/b]
Being strong, healthy, deeply rooted in material world Redguard, my heroine was full of stoic calmness while things went Salvador Dali style.

And at this time, she couldn't even imagine that she's part of some prophecy.
BTW : Thanks for clarifying things a bit. It's nice to face good arguments if defence of one's stand.
Father Tunde said:
JesterRaiin said:
Soooooooooo, my fellow Escapists, after reading yet another topic starting like this "after 20-30 hours i finally have beaten Skyrim and i find both main quest and its ending, blah, blah, blah"...
Because they've done just that. They've taken the 30 hours of Main Quest to get immersed, and roleplay their characters, their Dovakin (sp), who would do the Main Quest urgently, and not waste time with side-quests. If Dragons were fucking shit up in England, I wouldn't waste time looking around at all of the pretty places, collecting items, and doing random crap for passers-by.
Aside of Skyrim's part, i beg to differ. Only a few weeks ago (weeks, right ?) we all saw how people behaved during London's riots. Maybe
"stealing plasma" or
"robbing a shop" weren't very honorable subquests, but they were subquests neveretheless.
GonzoGamer said:
JesterRaiin said:
Possible, but rather far fetched, don't you think ?
Not at all. Why would it be.
They said the same thing about New Vegas and I as well as many others rushed to the ending when it started crashing every 15 mins. Mind you, this was after Bethesda patched it a few times....yet before the "big patch" that came out 6 months after launch.
Have you ever seen the crazy list of things people do in an attempt to get a Bethesda game to work properly? Rushing to the end is probably one of the least intrusive tactics.
Because Skyrim is actually quite stable, matured product when compared to Fallout:New Vegas or Judas Grail of modern gaming also known as RAGE. People suffered glitches and problems, sure, but overally Skyrim runs pretty good. Also, it's your (with all due respect) speculation. Noone actually said that - people simply installed Skyrim, patched/cracked it and rushed to end.
Zachary Amaranth said:
JesterRaiin said:
Preclude from what ? I'm not following.
You accused people of effectively "playing it wrong," not to mention promoting your way as though it were the only way that would be considered "immersive."
I still don't follow you man. Are you trying to feel offended at my cost, or what ?
First of all, i never said "you're playing it wrong". I said "you're not doing it the way it was meant to be". I understand - the devil is in the details, but come on !
There's no right or wrong way to play video games, but there are good and better ones. Someone speedruns through sandbox game ? Sure, it's his/her right, but still, they miss plenty of content. Crpgs aren't meant to simply speedrun through them and i would be really interested in hearing arguments supporting that attitude.
Are you feeling threatened by me promoting opposite style of play ? Could you kindly quote myself saying it's
"the only way that would be considered "immersive" ? Also, i'm still puzzled by this "preclusion" thing. From time to time i forget what timeframe i'm currently in, but i'm sure that i haven't started forming any kind of elitistic cabal of chosen gamers here. Yet.