Sleeve handguns, do they genuinely work?

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CINN4M0N

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PAGEToap44 said:
I like the guns in Inglorious Basterds. I don't know if it would work, but the theory of it seems sound enough. A gun mounted on the top of your wrist goes off when you punch someone with it. Think of it as an upgraded version of Fallout 3's Power Fist.
Yeah I didn't rate them, simply because it seemed pointless. If you're going to make that much noise just setting it off, why wouldn't you use a normal gun and cut out the danger of getting so close? If your going that close though, why not just use a knife and cut out the danger of alerting others with the noise?

EDIT: Other than 'because its bad as hell!'

I mean practically.
 

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TheDrHuw said:
I reckon it could work like in the movie (by the way the man is Prefessor Moriarty) but would have to be activated by a sitch or button, although there is some new technology being used in prosthetic limbs that senses nerve activity, so technically it could work but would be very expensive

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Not even. If you bend your hand all the way back, you'll notice that there's a lump of tissue that forms on the inside of your wrist. Just use a pressure plate right there to activate it.
 

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PAGEToap44 said:
I like the guns in Inglorious Basterds. I don't know if it would work, but the theory of it seems sound enough. A gun mounted on the top of your wrist goes off when you punch someone with it. Think of it as an upgraded version of Fallout 3's Power Fist.
I think the way the guns in Inglorious Basterds worked when the gun was pushed into the person, causing the bullet to release from the chamber. If you notice, each time the gun went off, the guy was pushing it into his victims. Kind of how you pull on the funnel of a pop gun to make the cork pop out. That's my theory on it anyway.

yellow snake95 said:
Yeah it exist.
Umm yah? How about extending on that, give us a link or something, or an explanation?

as for the topic:

I do firmly believe they exist, not in the eyes of the public of course, but there's a lot in fiction that can and probably does exist outside of the civilian world.
 

tkioz

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They work, in fact you can make a handgun out of damn near anything, I remember reading somewhere that in the late 90s the CIA made small single-shot "gun" in the casing of a working car alarm key chain thingy.

The problem is they are very impractical, there is a reason soldiers are issued rifles rather then pistols, the ability to balance it while aiming can not be under estimated, not to mention the extended barrel allows for higher powered calibre ammunition to be fired, with the corresponding increase in stopping power and accuracy, with devices such as sleeve guns you've got a low calibre weapon (likely something like a .22, which in cases have been known to bounce off bones at distance, it's rare but it happens) that is a pure ***** to aim reliably, great for short range (2-4 meters, in which case a knife would be more practical) but worthless for anything longer. Even modern hand guns aren't useful out beyond 20-40 meters without an expert marksmen using them.

On the other hand they are freaking cool! I once saw plans online on how to make a single use pen gun, basically a single bullet in a pen, hold it close to your target, and push the cap, bang. Massively illegal, but seriously cool.
 

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tkioz said:
On the other hand they are freaking cool! I once saw plans online on how to make a single use pen gun, basically a single bullet in a pen, hold it close to your target, and push the cap, bang. Massively illegal, but seriously cool.
And you didn't even think to link it...
 

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CINN4M0N said:
tkioz said:
On the other hand they are freaking cool! I once saw plans online on how to make a single use pen gun, basically a single bullet in a pen, hold it close to your target, and push the cap, bang. Massively illegal, but seriously cool.
And you didn't even think to link it...
Well I did say massively illegal :p
 

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How about a concealed mini gun, how epic would that be. Only problem is you'd need a pretty big sleeve.
 

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Allstar309 said:
How about a concealed mini gun, how epic would that be. Only problem is you'd need a pretty big sleeve.
Personally I'd go for a wide beam directed energy weapon if we're dreaming, could you imagine the havoc you could pull off if you had 2 meter high beam of death you could sweep in front of you? Screw laser guns, I want that.
 

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LimaBravo said:
They exist but are utterly impratical.

Sleeves would get in the way & the practicalities of carrying around skin crushing & tearing clamps and bands & leather straps when you could be carrying equally comfortable & safer wrist mounted holsters.

One has to remember guns arent toys. Safety isnt as safe as unfireable & an open triggers a trip to the hospital.
The idea of the device in question was to be discrete, and subtle. Having to reach toward your other arm to draw a pistol which is possibly of a regular size and therefore more visible and detectable defeats the purpose. and plus the wonder of having a gun which slides into your hand and can be slid back into your sleeve without drawing attention means that you don't even have to alert people surrounding you that you have a weapon if it turns out it wasn't even needed. Practicality isn't an issue at all, necessity is.
Stealth, some die by it, but the smart kill by it.
Wow when you say it like that it sounds all cool and competent instead of halfwitted.

So walking around with a large metal frame on each wrist with springs & slides is more discrete than say a slim discrete leather holser ?

I think metal detectors would disagree with you also shop anti-theft alarms and magnets.

Additionally large metal devices appearing from nowhere tend to alert people so thats fallacious.

Your also ignoring completely the fact they dont work. Again for reiteration, the mechanisms are to easily jammed, triggered, caught up and stimmied. Pro-tip an hours worth of metal work or even ripping out a kitchen drawer will provide you with all the materials you need, now try to streamline it.

If you even marginally succeed I suggest you approach law enforcement who would be delighted to have such a effective & useful weapon deployment system.
They don't work do they? So explain how i've seen one used, please, i'd love for you to enlighten me.
And why would I need a large metal frame? it can be built based on a two inch wide frame. Plus by using a gravity propulsion system rather than springs you illuminate sound, more discrete than reaching over to your other arm (which is just a tad suspicious).
And as for the metal detectors, well then make the whole thing from plastics. Seems ridiculous? yea, again, plastic guns and plastic ammunition exist, and it not that, then a gas system rather than black powder.
and anyway. knowing that you have metal on your person, why would you walk through a metal detector? and shopping with these things strapped to your arm isn't advised nor necessary.
And the final comment, well why would i give anything to the police which might help them, the police force suck completely anywho.
Halfwitted... sure, go re-think.
 

Kollega

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There were even sleeve-concealable SMGs developed for spies or somesuch. So yeah - they can work, and can be pretty useful if element of surprise is crucial to the wielder. In the open firefight though, i'd rather have a normal gun.
 

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The closest you would get is the derringer. a gun so small it could be hidden in the palm of your hand. unforunately, it only fired .22mm bullets, so you would basically have to be standing right next to someone for it to kill them. and the only sucessful 'hidden gun' to be used in an assassination was made to look like an umbrella and fired a small pellet which spilled poison into the victims bloodstream.
 

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Just be careful scratching any itches, or you might shoot off something you'll miss.
 

BENZOOKA

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Taxi Driver (1976), has thee not seen it.

Of course they can work, it's actually a pretty simple mechanic if you think about it.